True enough, but the Ultra 400 series tend to have more headroom if he wants a future Athlon XP upgrade, plus it's one of the more stable A7N8X varients. There's also plenty of cheaper cases on Newegg, but I like the SonataYpoknons wrote:As said above. 2Ghz is about entry level right now, and AMD's 2500+ marked Bartons (and below) are a pretty good value for money. If you were going to build your own, phongn's suggustions are good, but I think Sonata cases are a bit on the high side in terms of price, but if there aren't cheaper case/PSU combos it is a good case. Asus would usually charge a premium on their motherboards, and here in Hong Kong Gigabyte has the value advantage. Also, if you are just going to use single channel RAM then don't bother with nforce2 Ultra 400, nforce2 400 or KT600 motherboards will suit you better. Soltek isn't bad.
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I would suggest having a copy of Windows around (if you're buying stuff, you can usually get an OEM version as well) just in case you need to do something. It's not critical, but it is useful.Hobot wrote:I'm currently ordering parts in order to build myself a computer...[edit=clarifying]I was planning on using open-source software[/edit]...do you think it's important to have a legal copy of Winblows?
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Shit, 2Ghz is entry-level? Considering I have a PII 350 right now, I'd be happy with just 1.
Dell looks good, but a little pricey(I'm on a really, really tight budget), and I do want a DVD-Rom-I'm assuming it can play CDs as well as DVDs...
I did manage to find a customized computer over at Cyberpower for $617 that has most of the stuff I'd like, so I may go with that in the near future....
Dell looks good, but a little pricey(I'm on a really, really tight budget), and I do want a DVD-Rom-I'm assuming it can play CDs as well as DVDs...
I did manage to find a customized computer over at Cyberpower for $617 that has most of the stuff I'd like, so I may go with that in the near future....
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For gaming, 2GHz is entry-level.HemlockGrey wrote:Shit, 2Ghz is entry-level? Considering I have a PII 350 right now, I'd be happy with just 1.
Yes.Dell looks good, but a little pricey(I'm on a really, really tight budget), and I do want a DVD-Rom-I'm assuming it can play CDs as well as DVDs...
There's been some decent reviews of them on SB, but check Reseller Ratings before making a purchase.I did manage to find a customized computer over at Cyberpower for $617 that has most of the stuff I'd like, so I may go with that in the near future....
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Well, I have a 1.53GHz Athlon XP, and it's still doing just fine for gaming.phongn wrote:For gaming, 2GHz is entry-level.HemlockGrey wrote:Shit, 2Ghz is entry-level? Considering I have a PII 350 right now, I'd be happy with just 1.
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How much would
1. a new motherboard/chip at about 1.5
2. 512 DDR
3. 50ish gig HD (would be secondary, probably transfer everything over and reformat the first)
cost? I could just gut my Gateway and replace all the old shit with the new stuff.
1. a new motherboard/chip at about 1.5
2. 512 DDR
3. 50ish gig HD (would be secondary, probably transfer everything over and reformat the first)
cost? I could just gut my Gateway and replace all the old shit with the new stuff.
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Hell, I can play Generals and UT2k3 just fine on an old 1.4GHz Celeron with a GeForce2MX graphics card. I can't crank the resolution to ridiculous levels, but at 800x600, it works fine.Crayz9000 wrote:Well, I have a 1.53GHz Athlon XP, and it's still doing just fine for gaming.phongn wrote:For gaming, 2GHz is entry-level.HemlockGrey wrote:Shit, 2Ghz is entry-level? Considering I have a PII 350 right now, I'd be happy with just 1.
I imagine Doom3 will be vastly more of a CPU hog than any existing game, but until then, an old PC still gets the job done with most current software.
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Dump the MX. the Mx is a POS. Get a more top of the line FX card. You'll beDarth Wong wrote: Hell, I can play Generals and UT2k3 just fine on an old 1.4GHz Celeron with a GeForce2MX graphics card. I can't crank the resolution to ridiculous levels, but at 800x600, it works fine.
able to play at 1024x768 most everything smoothly.
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I'm sure he has 600 bucks to dump at the spur of the moment ~ HUKMKSheppard wrote:Dump the MX. the Mx is a POS. Get a more top of the line FX card. You'll beDarth Wong wrote: Hell, I can play Generals and UT2k3 just fine on an old 1.4GHz Celeron with a GeForce2MX graphics card. I can't crank the resolution to ridiculous levels, but at 800x600, it works fine.
able to play at 1024x768 most everything smoothly.
By the way, my GeForce4MX doesn't perform so well, but it was a free upgrade, so I can't complain.
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I used to routinely play Unreal Tournament (the original) at 1280x1024, with some of the detail settings tweaked, and got about 150 fps on average. Of course, for a while (on my old Win2K install) it showed ridiculous 1500+ fps averages. I have no clue what caused that.Darth Wong wrote:Hell, I can play Generals and UT2k3 just fine on an old 1.4GHz Celeron with a GeForce2MX graphics card. I can't crank the resolution to ridiculous levels, but at 800x600, it works fine..
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(Bolding mine)Sorry to ask, but does that mean that if I buy a cheap Dell, and a cheap P4 chip, I can install the chip in it, thus saving money?Darth Wong wrote:If you're not comfortable putting together computers yourself or dealing with local builders, get a Dell.
http://www.dell.com/us/en/dhs/offers/sp ... en4600.htm
The second one from the right is $1019. Dell cases are nicely built, the motherboards are made by Intel, and it comes with 256MB RAM, 40GB HD, GeForce4 MX graphics, a CD-RW drive, a 17" monitor, a legal copy of Windows, and an SBLive for sound.
While you may get slightly better price/performance elsewhere, Dell makes it easy and their machines are reliable.
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Hey, try ABS Computer
I have seen a lot of good reviews, as well as some excellent ones on them, and they have a good score on Reseller Ratings. My guess is they are also less expensive than Dell.
I have seen a lot of good reviews, as well as some excellent ones on them, and they have a good score on Reseller Ratings. My guess is they are also less expensive than Dell.