Web design software

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2003-09-05 02:51am

What do you guys usually use for your pages. The ones I know about are Abobe Pagemill/pagemaker, microsoft frontpage, a really little one called 1-2-3 publish. And do the books that teach you about them teach you thoroughly, show you what every option under every menu does and how to use them. And is uploading to your page just typing in the URL, and it puts it there?

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-09-05 02:53am

The latest I've used for web designing was Dreamweaver MX

For uploading to my webspace I use SmartFTP, which is free btw.

EDIT: Uploading a site is harder than you think at first. You first have to get ther webspace, whether free or paid. Then you use a FTP program, like SmartFTP, to upload.

There's tutorials and FAQs around the net that could explain all this better than I can and I'm only a mediocre web designer anyway.

Post by **haas mark** » 2003-09-05 04:01am

Dreamweaver MX here, if I'm not doing raw coding myself.

~ver

Embracer Of Darkness · Post by **Embracer Of Darkness** » 2003-09-05 07:33am

Dreamweaver MX (can't wait for Dreamweaver MX 2004), and sometimes Windows Notepad.

Hethrir · Post by **Hethrir** » 2003-09-05 10:17am

Shrykull wrote:What do you guys usually use for your pages. The ones I know about are Abobe Pagemill/pagemaker, microsoft frontpage, a really little one called 1-2-3 publish. And do the books that teach you about them teach you thoroughly, show you what every option under every menu does and how to use them. And is uploading to your page just typing in the URL, and it puts it there?

notepad.exe and dos ftp, can't beat it!

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-09-05 10:19am

I am considering writting a html editor. Any useful ideas you have for me ?

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-09-05 10:37am

evilcat4000 wrote:I am considering writting a html editor. Any useful ideas you have for me ?

Are you going for a full WYSIWIG editor or a pure editor like HomeSite?

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-09-05 10:38am

Dreamweaver MX is good, though Adobe is updating GoLive. My webhost only accepts SSH connections, tho, so no using the command-line FTP client

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-09-05 11:05am

Shrykull wrote:What do you guys usually use for your pages. The ones I know about are Abobe Pagemill/pagemaker, microsoft frontpage, a really little one called 1-2-3 publish. And do the books that teach you about them teach you thoroughly, show you what every option under every menu does and how to use them. And is uploading to your page just typing in the URL, and it puts it there?

You use Microsoft Frontpage? You deserve nothing less than to be chained to a wall and beaten raw with a leather belt, sir. Microsoft Frontpage is the enemy of society and if there were justice in the world, it's creators would be in a military prison in Cuba.

Anyway, I, um, use Notepad when making a website or if I'm being truly lazy or doing something really important, various Macromedia products like Dreamweaver and Flash MX.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-09-05 12:04pm

phongn wrote:
evilcat4000 wrote:I am considering writting a html editor. Any useful ideas you have for me ?
Are you going for a full WYSIWIG editor or a pure editor like HomeSite?

I am going for a WYSIWIG editor. It will be built using the MFC library and will use a Doc / View architechture that will allow you to import a wide variety of file formats into the applications. I have already developed a HTML browser which I could e-mail to anyone who wants it.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-09-05 02:42pm

I use SciTE, which is a text editor for both windows and linux/unix that has syntax highlighting and folding. Though for WYSIWIG I have Quanta Plus (KDE program, Linux/UNIX only). Haven't made pages in a while.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-09-05 03:54pm

Dreamweaver MX is definitely the way to go. If you have a high-res (like 1280 x 960) use the "new layout", otherwise (like using 800x600) go for the "old layout" otherwise the pages won't fit

and yes, it's a good idea to set yourself a resolution-max for pages, even better if they scale accordingly but always make sure they look good at 800x600 (which most people use).

Adobe GoLive appears pretty decent. I used it years ago before it was "round-trip" (meaning that it doesn't FUCK with your FUCKING format everytime you open and save) and it was very comfortable. Now, since Dreamweaver they wanted to be RT too, and I suppose they're ok.

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2003-09-07 12:26am

Gil Hamilton wrote:
Shrykull wrote:What do you guys usually use for your pages. The ones I know about are Abobe Pagemill/pagemaker, microsoft frontpage, a really little one called 1-2-3 publish. And do the books that teach you about them teach you thoroughly, show you what every option under every menu does and how to use them. And is uploading to your page just typing in the URL, and it puts it there?

You use Microsoft Frontpage? You deserve nothing less than to be chained to a wall and beaten raw with a leather belt, sir. Microsoft Frontpage is the enemy of society and if there were justice in the world, it's creators would be in a military prison in Cuba.

I'll take anything right now, just to learn, I guess it gives me some of the basics, what's so bad about it anyway, just that it's another microsoft attempt to monopolize?

Mad · Post by **Mad** » 2003-09-07 12:33am

Shrykull wrote:I'll take anything right now, just to learn, I guess it gives me some of the basics, what's so bad about it anyway, just that it's another microsoft attempt to monopolize?

From what I understand, a number of its features only work properly when being viewed with IE. In other words, you can't do anything fancy if you want other browsers to be able to view the page. (I use Notepad or other text editors and don't do anything fancy, so I don't know how extensive the IE-only features are.)

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-09-07 12:33am

1-2-3 Publish? For fuck's sake, that's AOL's webpage making software!

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2003-09-07 12:39am

Crayz9000 wrote:1-2-3 Publish? For fuck's sake, that's AOL's webpage making software!

ROFL, I thought you could use it anywhere, not that just AOL had it.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-09-07 12:41am

You can use it anywhere... if you're an AOLuser.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2003-09-07 12:19pm

Shrykull wrote:What do you guys usually use for your pages. The ones I know about are Abobe Pagemill/pagemaker, microsoft frontpage, a really little one called 1-2-3 publish. And do the books that teach you about them teach you thoroughly, show you what every option under every menu does and how to use them. And is uploading to your page just typing in the URL, and it puts it there?

I do the coding myself on Wordpad. If you're looking for a good beginner book, go grab one of the "Web Pages for Dummies" books. Great step-by-step instructions there. Also, check out this site:

http://www.elated.com/

Not only does it have a ton of tutorials, but it has free webpage templates you can use right away.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-09-07 12:49pm

When I make websites I directly write the HTML/PHP in Notepad or SimpleText. None of this pussy Dreamweaver crap or anything like that. If it have an interface that has lots of seemless but seperate images, I use Image Ready to pull them apart and organize a table, but thats about it.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-09-07 01:05pm

Most people don't have time to code by hand.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-09-07 02:49pm

If you can't code by hand, Dreamweaver is probably your best bet. Of all the WYSIWYG editors, it produces the most standards-compliant code.

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