Homeworld 2 Demo out!

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2003-09-06 01:19pm

how do I take screenies in homeworld?

EDIT: no, the story dosn't suffer.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-09-06 01:49pm

Ace Pace wrote:how do I take screenies in homeworld?

Scroll Lock. I learned that by reading the controls.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-09-06 02:52pm

I hate you all for having the system specs to run HW2

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-09-10 02:29pm

Well, I've got the specs aside from memory(Sure memory is cheap, but I'm broke. I have only JUST gotten the 120 bucks from my work last month.), but it won't start up. Rather more disturbing, when manually checking the directory it was installed in, I found no executable for hte game.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-09-10 07:12pm

What video card do you have?

The executable is in Homeworld 2 Demo\Bin\Release\

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-09-10 10:48pm

phongn wrote:What video card do you have?

The executable is in Homeworld 2 Demo\Bin\Release\

S3 Prosavage.. Pity me.

I found the executable.. And found the error log(yay). It keeps looking for a folder that doesn't exist on startup: Homeworld 2 Demo\Data\Locale\English.

There's no 'locale' folder.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-09-10 11:14pm

Grumbles about just how fucking slow the internet is here at Yosemite...

what do you mean one of the ParK service rangers is probably playing by now...

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-09-10 11:16pm

Okay now, I'd just like to know this:

Why is it that the computer is allowed to build units I'm not??? In every other fucking demo I've played, if the player couldn't build a unit, then neither could the computer. But NOOO, I have to be assraped by missle frigates and ion cannon fighters because I can't build them in response!

Fuck you, Sierra.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2003-09-10 11:21pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:Okay now, I'd just like to know this:

Why is it that the computer is allowed to build units I'm not??? In every other fucking demo I've played, if the player couldn't build a unit, then neither could the computer. But NOOO, I have to be assraped by missle frigates and ion cannon fighters because I can't build them in response!

Fuck you, Sierra.

Umm you can build everything that the computer can.....

You need to research it first.

Make sure you have both a research module and advanced research module.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-09-10 11:27pm

SirNitram wrote:
phongn wrote:What video card do you have?

The executable is in Homeworld 2 Demo\Bin\Release\
S3 Prosavage.. Pity me.

Hrm..odd. Though OTOH, the S3 Prosavage is not supported by HW2.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2003-09-11 12:32am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:Okay now, I'd just like to know this:

Why is it that the computer is allowed to build units I'm not??? In every other fucking demo I've played, if the player couldn't build a unit, then neither could the computer. But NOOO, I have to be assraped by missle frigates and ion cannon fighters because I can't build them in response!

Fuck you, Sierra.

Here's a tip: build a research module.

You can't build corvette, frigate, or capital ship bays until you have a research module.

Once you have a research module, you can only build one type of frigate. You need an advanced research module in order to build the other two.

Without a research module, you can build a platform controller module and a fighter construction bay. You cannot, however, build Ion Platforms until you research them. This, logically, requires a research module.

In other words, build a lousy research module. This is like bitching that you can't build Seige Tanks in Starcraft until you build a machine shop, or that you can't get Ghosts without the proper upgrades.

Welcome to the wonderful world of RTS games. Learn the tech trees, and learn them well. Enjoy your ownage.

Shiva Archon · Post by **Shiva Archon** » 2003-09-11 03:13am

DPDarkPrimus wrote: Fuck you, Sierra.

That "fuck you" should be directed to Relic, since they made it. Sierra just sells it.

Damn my crappy comp for not being able to run the thing cleanly!

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-09-11 05:52pm

Bull. I built both normal and advanced flavors of research modules, and the tabs for corvettes, etc, were still greyed out!

Mitth`raw`nuruodo · Post by **Mitth`raw`nuruodo** » 2003-09-11 05:54pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:Bull. I built both normal and advanced flavors of research modules, and the tabs for corvettes, etc, were still greyed out!

you have to click on them, and then build the facilities, IIRC... I haven't played that in awhile tho, I could be wrong...

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2003-09-11 06:52pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:Bull. I built both normal and advanced flavors of research modules, and the tabs for corvettes, etc, were still greyed out!

Bull to you too. The screenshots I provided on the VERY FIRST PAGE of this thread are clear evidence that fighters, corvettes, and frigates can all be built by the player.

Are you certain the modules finished building in the first place? (hint: hit Q to see the build queue's progress) A research module costs 1500 RU: You start with a mere 1000 RU. Are your harvesters harvesting? (hint: use H, and they will automagically start harvesting the nearest resource field) Additionally, if you're building anything else (two facilities at once, plus ships) it will take forever for the module to be built early on, since everything is fighting for RUs in the construction bays.

Hell, I'll even play you online to prove to you that the player can, in fact, build all the ships the AI can build.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2003-09-11 07:05pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:Bull. I built both normal and advanced flavors of research modules, and the tabs for corvettes, etc, were still greyed out!

Your doing something wrong then. I've played the demo and I was able to build everything that the computer could. Is this your first time playing Homeworld, or a RTS for that matter?

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2003-09-11 11:12pm

You filthy bastards!!! Now I must Download this game!!! DAMMIT!!!

(1 minute left!!!)

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2003-09-12 12:45am

Kamakazie Sith wrote:
DPDarkPrimus wrote:Bull. I built both normal and advanced flavors of research modules, and the tabs for corvettes, etc, were still greyed out!

Your doing something wrong then. I've played the demo and I was able to build everything that the computer could. Is this your first time playing Homeworld, or a RTS for that matter?

No, he's played quite a few RTS games (pretty damn good at SC, for that matter).

I was over at his place checking out the demo. I own the first HW, yet I couldn't figure out what needed to be done after building and adv. research module to get the larger classes of ships. The interface is a bit quirky.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2003-09-12 01:10am

Darth Utsanomiko wrote:No, he's played quite a few RTS games (pretty damn good at SC, for that matter).

I was over at his place checking out the demo. I own the first HW, yet I couldn't figure out what needed to be done after building and adv. research module to get the larger classes of ships. The interface is a bit quirky.

It's actually pretty easy to understand. Here's how it works:

First Tier Units:
Scouts
Resourcers
Mobile Refineries
Probes

First Tier Modules:
Fighter Bay
Platform Control
Research
Advanced Research
Hyperspace Module
Advanced Sensors

Tech Dependencies:

Research -> Corvette Bay, Frigate Bay, Capital Ship Bay, Scout Upgrades, Resourcer Upgrades, Mobile Refinery Upgrades, Mothership Upgrades
Fighter Bay -> Interceptors, Bombers
^+Research = Interceptor, Bomber Upgrades
Platform Control -> Gun Platforms
^+Research = Gun Platform Upgrades, Ion Platform Research -> Ion Platform Upgrades

Corvette Bay -> Gunboats, Pulsar Gunboats
^+Research -> Gunboat Upgrades + Pulsar Gunboat upgrades

Frigate Bay -> Torpedo Frigates
^+Research -> Torpedo Frigate Upgrades
^^+Adv. Research -> Ion Cannon Frigates + Upgrades, Flak Frigates + Upgrades

Capital Ship Bay -> Carriers
^+Research -> Carrier Upgrades

In simple terms: first you build the research modules, THEN you build the various bays (corvette, frigate, capship). Only the mothership can build a capship bay (for obvious reasons). Once that bay is built, THAT SHIP can build units of that type.

My offer to show any of you online just how this works still stands.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2003-09-12 07:46am

I completely agree with Alyeska. The game is an excellent upating of HW (even if the menu thingy at the bottom of the screen is a bit clumsy for me atm) however the changes to the basic game model aren't just a step backwards, they're stupid. POH has a fighter construction thingy, a corvette thingy, and a capship thingy. And yet it can only build one at a time. DAFT!
I never played HW:C much, so I don't miss the time compression...
Biggest problem for me is one I've had with HW since the start... wimpy, crappy capships! I can add a platform bay, a fighter bay, etc... but I want an AA bay with extra guns, or an auxillary engine bay, or a resource grabbing bay, not just research and hyper modules. In HW, who ELSE wanted to use the triple-ion ffs as turrets on the mothership? And the AA on the refinery is so small, they're just muzzle flashes, no geometry at all. I want to spend more, and beef it up a little.