MUST KILL BILL GATES

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2003-10-04 05:20pm

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Winblowz just fucking rearranged all my fucking desktop icons. I keep them in carful order so all my essentials come first then the rest of my stuff, it just randomly changed to the stupid wonblowz defaults with teh recycle bin at top. I DIDN'T EVEN GET A FUCKING PROMPT!!! WHO THE FUCK MAKES STUPID CRAP THAT CHANGES YOUR SETTINGS WITH OUT YOU EVEN PROMPTING YOU? NOW I'M GOING TO HAVE TO WASTE MY TIME FIXING BILL GATES INCOMPETANCE AND FIXXING MY DESKTOP. ANY YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'LL PROBABLY CRASH RIGHT AS I GET IT SET UP, AND WHEN I LOG BACK ON IT I'LL BE BACK TO DEFAULTS. AAARRRGGGHHH!!!

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Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-10-04 05:21pm

Is that XP? If so, go to display options, Desktop, Customize Desktop, and disable the Cleanup Desktop thing.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2003-10-04 06:01pm

Thanks. Why in hell would anyone put that crap in there?

Mutant Headcrab · Post by **Mutant Headcrab** » 2003-10-04 07:07pm

darthdavid wrote:Thanks. Why in hell would anyone put that crap in there?

Ignorant neat-freaks who believe that the default should remain, otherwise various degrees of nastiness will follow?

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-10-04 07:31pm

It COULD be useful if there really are some things you don't use often and only serve to clutter up the desktop and you're too lazy to remove them.

But most of us notice all that on our own.

But that's Microsoft for you.

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2003-10-04 07:32pm

The desktop cleanup wizard tells you exactly what it's going to do, and asks you whether you want it to happen.

If it was that that rearranged your desktop, it would have meant you clicking in "Yes" just to make a windows box go away without actually knowing what it was planning to do.

(it would also have shoved everything in an 'unused desktop icons' folder, not rearranged the order)

Otherwise, you clicked on one of the options to rearrange all your icons. Meaning that you actually asked it to change everything.

90% of people's interface problems with Windows are because they don't pay attention to what they're clicking on.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-10-04 07:53pm

YT300000, do not spam this thread.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-10-04 08:19pm

phongn wrote:YT300000, do not spam this thread.

Sorry, I had a lot of sugar today, and am really hyper. Wont happen again.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-10-04 08:33pm

I hate that crap too. I have my icons set up in a certain way and by the Great Spirit I WANT TO KEEP THEM THAT WAY! Is there a program which can 'lock' the positions of icons on the desktop? If so, I WANT IT!

DarthDavid, I thought at first this was a reaction to Micro$oft's wanting to take over the BIOS of a computer (a really neat and devilish way to forcibly install unkillable spyware, DRM, and Anti-Linux code from a Remote Server somewhere despite a software firewall being in place...)

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-10-04 08:44pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:I hate that crap too. I have my icons set up in a certain way and by the Great Spirit I WANT TO KEEP THEM THAT WAY! Is there a program which can 'lock' the positions of icons on the desktop? If so, I WANT IT!

What Windows version do you use?

On the note of microsoft:

Why haven't Linux makers developed a DirectX or OpenGL equivalent yet?

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2003-10-04 09:23pm

OpenGL is portable across Windows, Linux, Unix, MacOS..... (Hell, the OSX desktop uses OpenGL)

Linux does lack a standard hardware abstraction model like DirectX though, which is why getting devices to work on it can be a bit hit and miss, and which is why it isn't anything like a consumer OS yet.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-10-04 09:23pm

Shinova wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:I hate that crap too. I have my icons set up in a certain way and by the Great Spirit I WANT TO KEEP THEM THAT WAY! Is there a program which can 'lock' the positions of icons on the desktop? If so, I WANT IT!
What Windows version do you use?

On the note of microsoft:

Why haven't Linux makers developed a DirectX or OpenGL equivalent yet?

Um... we do have OpenGL... and TransGaming has created DirectX->OpenGL emulators.

You have to download accelerated drivers seperately from nVidia, and from what I've heard, ATI Linux support sucks, unless you use the older cards, since those drivers are OSS. Which also means you can use HW accelerated DirectFB.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-10-04 09:24pm

In that case, they also need a sort of windows->Linux system for games and other applications.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-10-04 10:15pm

Shinova wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:I hate that crap too. I have my icons set up in a certain way and by the Great Spirit I WANT TO KEEP THEM THAT WAY! Is there a program which can 'lock' the positions of icons on the desktop? If so, I WANT IT!
What Windows version do you use?

On the note of microsoft:

Why haven't Linux makers developed a DirectX or OpenGL equivalent yet?

I have Win2K SP3 (probly soon to be SP4).

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-10-05 10:43am

Shinova wrote:In that case, they also need a sort of windows->Linux system for games and other applications.

*SMACKS SHINOVA*

I just said they did- the DX->OpenGL emulator + win32, AKA WineX.

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2003-10-05 10:45am

WineX isn't a complete emulator yet though. It will run a fair few games, but not all of them.

Psycho Smiley · Post by **Psycho Smiley** » 2003-10-05 11:13am

They want the fucking BIOS now? That's it! As soon as I have time, I'm getting Linux on here, and just keeping a crippled copy of Windows for my old games. FUCK!

Assuming I have a fairly good idea of what I'm doing with computers, but little experience with Linux, how hard is it to set up a dual-boot system and configure Linux?

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2003-10-05 11:22am

Setting up a Dual boot system is easy.

Configuring Linux is less so. Installing it is fairly simple, but the operating system itself is designed around the assumption that you're willing to spend a lot of time learning how it works.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-10-05 03:50pm

Pu-239 wrote:*SMACKS SHINOVA*

I just said they did- the DX->OpenGL emulator + win32, AKA WineX.

All those things aren't perfect.

I'll be waiting till someone develops something that'll seamlessly allow Windows games to run on Linux.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-10-05 05:04pm

That will never happen. Meanwhile, dual boot. At least you can try to emulate windows at a decent speed, on mac, it will never happen, since they have to emulate the processor too.

Nothing is perfect. Example would be windows 2k/XP not being able to run BC3K

Besides, X+Linux is not suited for gaming, since X is slow. You will have to wait for DirectFB for windows level or above performance, but that will never happen, due to nVidia not open-sourcing or giving documentation for their drivers. Also, no one really cares about that anymore, since faster processors make the slight slowdown neglible. Sucks to be me with a 3 year old comp though.

Then, again, you may play the 64-bit version of America's Army on AMD64/Opteron on Linux

.

There is also a way to use binfmt_misc to automatically run wine(x), like a normal linux program. However, no point, since you could just make a shell script/desktop file(similar to windows shortcut) anyway.

I don't use linux for gaming anyway- use it for web browsing, email, server, word processing, and development.

They got HW2 to run on linux, single player, and probably multiplayer later, so that's all I care about.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-10-05 10:48pm

Shinova wrote:Is that XP? If so, go to display options, Desktop, Customize Desktop, and disable the Cleanup Desktop thing.

That's actually a routine that moves all the unused files to a different folder. Getting the desktop rearranged happens due to several other reasons - one of them is when I play some games and the resolution of my screen decreases, everything gets pushed to the upper left

or even just because some reg file got corrupted. The other is of course selecting "arrange icons".

There are some programs that save the position of your icons so you can restore it when shit happens (if it's important to you). I did a GOOGLE search and found this one, but I'm pretty sure there are others that might be better.

Johonebesus · Post by **Johonebesus** » 2003-10-06 01:56am

I have a related question. I have placed on my desktop in XP a few folders containing shortcuts (kind of like the old program manager). The system likes to rearrange the icons at random but frequent intervals, sometimes putting them in alphabetical order, sometimes in the order they were installed, sometimes in order of when they were last used, and sometimes it puts them in a detailed list view. Is there anyway to lock the format to keep the icons in the same order all the time?

Post by **haas mark** » 2003-10-06 02:24am

Mutant Headcrab wrote:
darthdavid wrote:Thanks. Why in hell would anyone put that crap in there?
Ignorant neat-freaks who believe that the default should remain, otherwise various degrees of nastiness will follow?

It's called Obssessive Compulsive Disorder. Don't knock on it.

Just kidding. But that's probably what it stemmed from. Scary thought, ne?

~ver