So, i get steam...

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-11-27 07:32pm

Last night, i download all the game updates, friends thing is working....today, friends thing is down and i have to redownload CS again. Wtf is all this about?

That's not the only thing that's fucked.

For instance, when i download all the stuff again, for some reason, if i try to go in games by any other means than following friends in, it says my purchasing of the platinum pack failed and that someone else has my cd key.

That's when it doesn't crash...hoy vey...is there any way to fix this?

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-11-27 08:02pm

Mine crashes at startup so I have no means of getting it fixed

Steam is a shitty piece of shit that's no more efficient than normal means of distributing data

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-11-27 08:07pm

Steam is a good idea at the wrong time. Valve should have kept the service volutary and allowed compatibility with the WON network. Of course this would mean Steam games couldn't be tweaked every three days making it a technical new version. As it is the technological and logistical limitations are causing problems with Steam. These issues will become relevent every time a new game is added to Steam as the serves will be flooded for several weeks after each release.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-11-27 09:22pm

Couldn't they have made the service notify, say 1/3 of the users to DL a new release at a time to minimize load, since users already have unique IDs?

Bill Door · Post by **Bill Door** » 2003-11-28 04:07pm

I've given up on Steam. When I decide I want to play I want to play the game NOW, not in 30 mins if I'm lucky. And Natural Selection is laggy to the point of being unplayable.

Unfortunately that means no HL2 multiplay... I figure I should just rent the single player.

I'm thinking about UT 2004 as the next FPS game to get.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2003-11-28 04:43pm

Screw Steam. Call of Duty fills the niche previously occupied by Day of Defeat, Savage takes Natural Selection, and America's Army takes Firearms. I won't deal with Steam until HL2, and even then...

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-11-28 07:34pm

SAvage has NOTHING on Natural Selection, are you kidding me? I have never played a more gripping, exciting game than Natural Selection. I have never played a more bland, unnatractive game than Savage.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2003-11-28 07:44pm

Thirdfain wrote:SAvage has NOTHING on Natural Selection, are you kidding me? I have never played a more gripping, exciting game than Natural Selection. I have never played a more bland, unnatractive game than Savage.

Savage is awesome. NS was fun for awhile, but got old with the same old routine. Savage expands on the same idea as NS, and takes it where the HL engine can't.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-11-28 07:47pm

Bill Door wrote:I've given up on Steam. When I decide I want to play I want to play the game NOW, not in 30 mins if I'm lucky. And Natural Selection is laggy to the point of being unplayable.

Unfortunately that means no HL2 multiplay... I figure I should just rent the single player.

I'm thinking about UT 2004 as the next FPS game to get.

Is valve doing anything to rectify it's massive problems?
Oh, and UT2004 looks like it's gonna own ass, assault is back, and there are levels with spaceships, cars and other vehicles and stuff.

Mitth`raw`nuruodo · Post by **Mitth`raw`nuruodo** » 2003-11-28 08:37pm

I stopped doing anything with Valve when Steam came out. It just wouldn't work. I haven't played CS or DoD in... 6 months now. It sucks, but whaddya gonna do?

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2003-11-28 08:42pm

Steam was fine on my computer... for a while... Then the thing started to crash when I close it... Then eventually the damn thing started to crash when I try to start the damned thing.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-11-28 09:38pm

Savage is awesome. NS was fun for awhile, but got old with the same old routine. Savage expands on the same idea as NS, and takes it where the HL engine can't.

Savage is BORING. The graphics contribute nothing to the game- in contrast to NS, where an excellent mood is set by the level design and so forth. Savage maps look like zones from EQ.

NS has a very simple premise, and it does it well- small infantry team combat, something for which online play is particularly well suited. Savage tries to expand that into the realm of full-scale war, and fails to do so- now, instead of the tense, cramped, small-team combat of NS, you end up with what feels alot like a particularly small and boring EverQuest guild war.

The Half-Life engine can't replicte huge outdoor environments- true enough. But for the world of online play, which is generally limited to about 40 players anyway, huge outdoor environments just don't work well.

BF 1942 did a great job of making a game which doesn't feel at all like mass war, and savage decided to follow in the same footsteps.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2003-11-29 02:57am

Since steam locks up on me, and whenever I get it running it babbles about bad .TGA files, I just cleared 3GB of file space, and went to sleep