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I've found that it's best to stay in the far corner of a warzone when fighting, too. If you get pincered you're fucked, no matter how good you are with the AK.
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In that smoke mission you've got to stay a fair way away from the train or all his fire hits the train, not the guys. If you look closely you can see this happening; before the tunnel I ride on the sidewalk and he takes 2 or 3 out quickly. Same at the end.
Because everyone else has low hits the AK/M4 rules at long range; with decent skill you can off 10 guys with one clip before they're in range. For turf wars I hide in a driveway or stairwell or somewhere and ice them as they come round the corner with twin MACs or whatever. Twin MACs are utterly useless at any range because of recoil, however. I use them because M4 ammo is more useful in hard fights (against the army, for instance) and I've only got around 900rnds... since I lost all my guns in the 'shit my chopper got shot down by the Vietnamese' mission.
The spawning health and armour makes the turf wars a waste of time. I've never died in one. Without the pickups I would have been forced to flee on more than a few occasions. Being able to spend money on your gang to provide guns etc would be nice too; then again, I'd pay 100,000 bucks to have a spawning armour in my save points. That guy at Ammunation looks at me funny.
EDIT: Actually Joe, I've noticed the bad guys often spawn outside of the warzone, so you can get flanked anyway. I just look for a roof/alley/driveway or whatever and wait for them... although its a shame they don't get timed out the way you do if you run, because I've had four guys run in different directions, and been forced to steal a car, chase and kill one, get back before the timeout, and repeat.
Because everyone else has low hits the AK/M4 rules at long range; with decent skill you can off 10 guys with one clip before they're in range. For turf wars I hide in a driveway or stairwell or somewhere and ice them as they come round the corner with twin MACs or whatever. Twin MACs are utterly useless at any range because of recoil, however. I use them because M4 ammo is more useful in hard fights (against the army, for instance) and I've only got around 900rnds... since I lost all my guns in the 'shit my chopper got shot down by the Vietnamese' mission.
The spawning health and armour makes the turf wars a waste of time. I've never died in one. Without the pickups I would have been forced to flee on more than a few occasions. Being able to spend money on your gang to provide guns etc would be nice too; then again, I'd pay 100,000 bucks to have a spawning armour in my save points. That guy at Ammunation looks at me funny.
EDIT: Actually Joe, I've noticed the bad guys often spawn outside of the warzone, so you can get flanked anyway. I just look for a roof/alley/driveway or whatever and wait for them... although its a shame they don't get timed out the way you do if you run, because I've had four guys run in different directions, and been forced to steal a car, chase and kill one, get back before the timeout, and repeat.
Could you be more specific? I found the brass knuckles under the bridge on the road leading out of your home street, for example. Where one of the tags are. It's hard to spot, as it's in grass.Stark wrote:After x missions the Ammu-nation stores open (with a very limited stock). The motel near the railway has grenades, to the north in mulholland there's a rifle, and where'd you find the brass knuckles? I'm using a double ended dildo!
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Those would be nice.Vympel wrote:Could you be more specific? I found the brass knuckles under the bridge on the road leading out of your home street, for example. Where one of the tags are. It's hard to spot, as it's in grass.Stark wrote:After x missions the Ammu-nation stores open (with a very limited stock). The motel near the railway has grenades, to the north in mulholland there's a rifle, and where'd you find the brass knuckles? I'm using a double ended dildo!
Is there any place to pick up an M4 outside of AmmuNation or whatever? I could really use one of those in a turf war. The thing is fucking lethal. Even without leveling up at all, I was taking out cops left and right with that thing (this is at the start of when I got the game, when I was fucking around with cheat codes and shit just to have some fun.).
And when do the other three clothing stores open? I want some real bling dammit!
EDIT: And any places outside of the police station and AmmuNation I can dig up some armor?
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Does anyone else think they put in to many cars in this version? I'm already in Los Venturas and they still feel same-y.
In GTA3, there were only 50 cars. Just from the look of the car, you could tell whether it would be worth jacking oor not. Each car had very distinctive handling.
In GTA: VC, they doubled the amount of cars to 100. You could still basically tell them apart just by the looks, but there were a few that alot like each other.
Now, GTA: SA has 200 cars. To me, all the cars look and act the same. The only difference between them is whether they have 2 or 4 doors. I simply don't care which car I drive anymore.
In GTA3, there were only 50 cars. Just from the look of the car, you could tell whether it would be worth jacking oor not. Each car had very distinctive handling.
In GTA: VC, they doubled the amount of cars to 100. You could still basically tell them apart just by the looks, but there were a few that alot like each other.
Now, GTA: SA has 200 cars. To me, all the cars look and act the same. The only difference between them is whether they have 2 or 4 doors. I simply don't care which car I drive anymore.
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Temjin, welcome to the real world. Cars ARE all largely the same, except for the shit 50s cars and the ridiculous sportscars. And I can spot an Elegy or Alpha a mile away, and the Supra headlights on 350s are extremely distinctive. I found Vegas had a lot of new sportscars anyway, liek the super GT, that other rocketcar, etc. I'd race you in an Elegy, you take a pimpmobile. Go on, try and win.
The dildo I originally found in my Vegas girls house; I recently also found it in the LA police showers! It kills in 2-3 hits. It is pink. It is the king of melee.
The clothing stores and ammunation may actually be linked to respect; the last clothing store (Ds) hadn't opened when I got to Vegas, but now my respect is maxxed and I magically got the entire map uncovered (there were places in the NE I'd never gone) and everything is open. Max your respect by wearing green, killing Ballas and cops, and spraying tags. Ammunation is still slowing increasing its stock, however, so I don't know how it works entirely.
Okay, I don't actually know of many weapons in LA... but I'll go find the nearest tag to each gun I know of. Outside LA in the countryside, many of the lumberyards (small houses by roadside on grey background on the map) have chainsaws. The motel just over the railway from Grove st, near tag #58, has grenades if you go up the stairs by the west wall. The hunting rifle is at one of the hick towns north of LA(I'm going for a drive to find it now :S). Of course we all know about that 'Emmet' guy and his shit pistol. The Desert Eagle is in an alley behind Zeros store in SF. I haven't seen M4s in LA yet. Wait, shit, the movie studio has a sniper rifle. I'll add which one once I can check.
The jetpack is in the late-Vegas missions. Quite slow, but you can still shoot.
EDIT: Thanks Vympel! 10 meters from the start point and I never saw it... d'oh!
EDIT2: K, the sawnoff and AK are in the W and NW inside the movie lot in LA. I coulda sworn I found a sniper up some stairs in a movie lot, tho...
EDIT#: Sniper is up the stairs in 'Interglobal Television', which is SW of the big movie lot. The movie lot is midway between tags 90 and 86, and IGTV is the block directly SW of that.
The dildo I originally found in my Vegas girls house; I recently also found it in the LA police showers! It kills in 2-3 hits. It is pink. It is the king of melee.
The clothing stores and ammunation may actually be linked to respect; the last clothing store (Ds) hadn't opened when I got to Vegas, but now my respect is maxxed and I magically got the entire map uncovered (there were places in the NE I'd never gone) and everything is open. Max your respect by wearing green, killing Ballas and cops, and spraying tags. Ammunation is still slowing increasing its stock, however, so I don't know how it works entirely.
Okay, I don't actually know of many weapons in LA... but I'll go find the nearest tag to each gun I know of. Outside LA in the countryside, many of the lumberyards (small houses by roadside on grey background on the map) have chainsaws. The motel just over the railway from Grove st, near tag #58, has grenades if you go up the stairs by the west wall. The hunting rifle is at one of the hick towns north of LA(I'm going for a drive to find it now :S). Of course we all know about that 'Emmet' guy and his shit pistol. The Desert Eagle is in an alley behind Zeros store in SF. I haven't seen M4s in LA yet. Wait, shit, the movie studio has a sniper rifle. I'll add which one once I can check.
The jetpack is in the late-Vegas missions. Quite slow, but you can still shoot.
EDIT: Thanks Vympel! 10 meters from the start point and I never saw it... d'oh!
EDIT2: K, the sawnoff and AK are in the W and NW inside the movie lot in LA. I coulda sworn I found a sniper up some stairs in a movie lot, tho...
EDIT#: Sniper is up the stairs in 'Interglobal Television', which is SW of the big movie lot. The movie lot is midway between tags 90 and 86, and IGTV is the block directly SW of that.
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Yup, Jetpack.andrewgpaul wrote: And ... Jetpack?!
The Truth, airstrip, Area 69.
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The blood cloud they leave behind would have been enough, but the organs and gore getting spewed out the mulcher just seals the deal.
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Did you notice they come out as neat little cylinders, just like the hay?Joe wrote:The blood cloud they leave behind would have been enough, but the organs and gore getting spewed out the mulcher just seals the deal.
What a fun mission. Until I drove the fucking thing off a cliff, anyway.
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You would smoke me. Badly. That still doesn't change the fact that in previous GTA's, the cars were all very distinctive from one another. They had distinctive looks and handling. I don't get that feeling in this one.Stark wrote:Temjin, welcome to the real world. Cars ARE all largely the same, except for the shit 50s cars and the ridiculous sportscars. And I can spot an Elegy or Alpha a mile away, and the Supra headlights on 350s are extremely distinctive. I found Vegas had a lot of new sportscars anyway, liek the super GT, that other rocketcar, etc. I'd race you in an Elegy, you take a pimpmobile. Go on, try and win.
And damnit, sometimes I don't want my games to be like real life.
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A passenger jet? As in, the big ones and not just the little Learjet? *drools*Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Holy fucking shit you can do crazy shit with cars, feels like Burnout 3.
Ha, stealing a passenger jet=easy.
As to the same cars, that bugs me a bit, too, until I realize I tend to go car hunting down in the Grove and other ghetto-fied areas, because that's usually where I'm stuck after a mission. But if I head downtown or whatever I can get more choices.
The most anoying aspect of all the GTA games thus far is that you can never really use your "regular" car (ie, the one you like to save) on a mission (espeically not after you spend $10k to blingify it!) because nine times out of ten you'll end up losing the car to the mission because of some requirement to complete it (leaving it somewhere to go after something/someone on foot, or more often having to use a specific vehicle for the mission).
That's pretty annoying sometimes. I'd like to use my pimpmobile for situations other than just driving around randomly (although I guess later in the game, when you can hit the casinos, do pimp missions, etc, your ride may just stay with you).
My green lowrider and the Bitchin' Flames lowrider are just sitting in my garage, all alone and unused...
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You can't, to my knowledge, jack a passenger jet. That little Lear jet is loads of fun, though. Especially when you fly it over Los Santos at rooftop height and try to use the canal to duck under bridges.
I was unsuccessful, but I'll bet the people on the bridge got quite a show.
I was unsuccessful, but I'll bet the people on the bridge got quite a show.
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Reading this thread has given me so many great ideas...RedImperator wrote:You can't, to my knowledge, jack a passenger jet. That little Lear jet is loads of fun, though. Especially when you fly it over Los Santos at rooftop height and try to use the canal to duck under bridges.
I was unsuccessful, but I'll bet the people on the bridge got quite a show.
You know, given the descriptions I've heard of the P-51s randomly crashing (bug or intentional?) and what happened when I sent my Learjet in a death spiral trying to (unsuccessfully, it would seem) evade the Harrier, I'm rather disappointed in the (lack of) massive explosion.
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The war continues on..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, We Are All One (Medieval 2: Total War)
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I meant a Lear Jet. But the small planes are fun, I accidently rammed one into a wall while taxing it causing tons of damage, making it a guided missle. Barely stayed in the air but when it went down boom...
I just finished the National Guard mission (damn I was wishing for an M4) do the rival gangs ever get completely wiped out? Cause my pimped up cars keep on getting shot up whenever I drive.
I just finished the National Guard mission (damn I was wishing for an M4) do the rival gangs ever get completely wiped out? Cause my pimped up cars keep on getting shot up whenever I drive.
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I hear you, but I see it as a bonus that there is such a variety of 'generic sedans' and '70s muscle cars' and 'riceburner rocketcars' etc. In GTA3 there were what, 4 sportscars? Having 10+ allows for alot more personal styling in your pimped up cars, and also feels alot deeper because the endless repition of stallions or whatever isn't as obvious. But I'm the kind of guy that likes 20 pistols in my FPSs, all essentially the same, just because its about choice and style! Also, my friends and I notice distinctive differences between most cars... the generic sedans (primus etc) are pretty similar, but things like sentinels and jokers are quite different from the moment you hit the accelerator.Temjin wrote:You would smoke me. Badly. That still doesn't change the fact that in previous GTA's, the cars were all very distinctive from one another. They had distinctive looks and handling. I don't get that feeling in this one.
And damnit, sometimes I don't want my games to be like real life.
Although I think a case could be made that many of the car types were tacked on; most of them have very small (read: none) options in the tune shop, no spoilers, no nothing. And 12 mags? 4 spoilers? ONE skirt? TWO vents? C'mon, they could have done so much better ... Automodelista style.
The 100-sprays thing does indeed give you an AK, molotovs, sawnoff and TEC9. Shame I got busted at 98 after a marathon session and decided to take the loss of my beautiful guns over having to do it all again...
EDIT - Try flying a Harrier with wing damage; its an exciting quest just keeping it level, let alone moving. I did the whole mission that way (crashed into the ship), and it wasn't fun at all.
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Damnit, why is my Vegas girlfriend never home, i need that keycard!
I staked out her home for a full fucking day and she never showed! is she only home on certain days? Anone know when i can get some action in?
I staked out her home for a full fucking day and she never showed! is she only home on certain days? Anone know when i can get some action in?
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Argh, the pilots at SF airport are a load of cocksuckers. Bastards keep locking their planes 2 Learjets, 2 DC3s and some shitty high-wing cargo job, and I couldn't fly a single one. grumblegrumble.
Oh, and you get a 5-star rating just by touching the fence of Area 69 (I was trying to flee the cops with my 4-star rating for being on the wrong island at the time).
Oh, and you get a 5-star rating just by touching the fence of Area 69 (I was trying to flee the cops with my 4-star rating for being on the wrong island at the time).
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Have you gotten your pilot license yet? Once you do, the aircraft should all be unlocked.andrewgpaul wrote:Argh, the pilots at SF airport are a load of cocksuckers. Bastards keep locking their planes 2 Learjets, 2 DC3s and some shitty high-wing cargo job, and I couldn't fly a single one. grumblegrumble.
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Los Santos International Airport (LSX). Go to the gate where the guard says "You need a pilot's license to enter!", park your car near the booth, jump up on it, then on to the guard shack, and hop the fence. You can find a Dodo (full winged) and the Learjet back there.andrewgpaul wrote:No, I haven't. Is there somewhere I can pinch a plane without having a licence?
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