"Amabasidor, my host gave herself willingly. She is still, to this day willing. I have extender her life by over 1200 years and not, as you say, "raped her soul". Do you still consider me a parasite?"
I doubt it. even if she gave herself willingly, I dont think she would appreciate being locked behind glass, seeing through her eyes but being unable to act upon her environment for over a millenia. Her mind may still exist, but I have no doubt that it exists in a world of torment, and it is probably insane by now"
"She was an incredably skilled diplomat, I respect her thoughts and she changes my actions on a regular basis. We know that you have a spell called "Detect Thoughts" that should let you verify this for yourself."
Astinus hit each and every Jaffa with a Hold eprson spell before anyone could even blink
He then chanted a little and delved into the hosts mind...
She was a skilled diplomat, but the centuries of having no direct control over her own body was taking a heavy toll on her mind. She was screaming, her mind screamed to be freed
"Her mind wants freedom... It screams for it"
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Thirdfain wrote:The Ousters moved so fast that they seemed to teleport into position. Power-assisted legs, already considerably stronger than human norm, propelled their bodies with inhuman agility. In an eyeblink, each of the Jaffa had a fletcher pointed at his head. Their bursting in the door had been construed as a hostile action, and reacted to.
"Your soldiers will srop their weapons. Your actions are highly irregular and against protocols. What do you intend to achieve with action such as this?"
"It is my duty to protect the ambasidor at all costs!"
"Your ambassador is well protected," said Shelton, walking into the room from the refreshment and reception chamber adjoining. "Everyone stand down your weapons. Everyone," he repeated, glancing at the Ousters and cybernetic being.
"The weaponry is unpowered." The Drone remarked, before the turret swung around from it's lock on the Symbiote.
Manic Progressive: A liberal who violently swings from anger at politicos to despondency over them.
Out Of Context theatre: Ron Paul has repeatedly said he's not a racist. - Destructinator XIII on why Ron Paul isn't racist.
"Unaccetable, if we wanted death theats we'd stay at war. Nevermind the fact that that prevents any potential expansion into inhabited but independant worlds."
"I think you may be wasting your last chance, Bondwoman. You are argueing from a position of extreme weakness. I Don't think you'll have another chance as this one."
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite.
John Kenneth Galbraith (1908 - )
Alyrium Denryle wrote:
I doubt it. even if she gave herself willingly, I dont think she would appreciate being locked behind glass, seeing through her eyes but being unable to act upon her environment for over a millenia. Her mind may still exist, but I have no doubt that it exists in a world of torment, and it is probably insane by now"
"She was an incredably skilled diplomat, I respect her thoughts and she changes my actions on a regular basis. We know that you have a spell called "Detect Thoughts" that should let you verify this for yourself."
Astinus hit each and every Jaffa with a Hold eprson spell before anyone could even blink
He then chanted a little and delved into the hosts mind...
She was a skilled diplomat, but the centuries of having no direct control over her own body was taking a heavy toll on her mind. She was screaming, her mind screamed to be freed
"Her mind wants freedom... It screams for it"
No godmoding aly, you don't control my people.
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The detect thoughts spell reveailed a rare trait in goa'ould, caring about the host. The host had a fair amount of say in what action was taken, and although centuries of life had certanly graded on her mind, she was not yet at the point where she no longer desired life.
"Unaccetable, if we wanted death theats we'd stay at war. Nevermind the fact that that prevents any potential expansion into inhabited but independant worlds."
You will have to adapt your protocol so as to not parasitize other sentient beings. Without the God aura your fool others into, no one would join you. Proven time and time again through history.
GALE Force Biological Agent/
BOTM/Great Dolphin Conspiracy/ Entomology and Evolutionary Biology Subdirector:SD.net Dept. of Biological Sciences
There is Grandeur in the View of Life; it fills me with a Deep Wonder, and Intense Cynicism.
OOC: Basic psychology, anyone in solitary confinement for 2 weeks would be at that state. Can you imagine 1200 years?
"If you do not agree to our terms, you will be destroyed. You do not have a choice"
++My ambasidor core consists of goa'ould with that mindset for just this reason++
..........Fine. On the condition that we can disassemble the ships for parts to be used in a NON-MILLITARY fashon. Our economy is going to need all the help it can get after those war reperations. The ships weapons and such would still be scuttled of course.
You have controlled the reactions of my people plenty of times
"Hmm, you care about your host... I can respect you for that... almost. The fact remains that you still alow her no direct control. Much like an abusive husband may care about his wife, but still controls every aspect of her life"
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BOTM/Great Dolphin Conspiracy/ Entomology and Evolutionary Biology Subdirector:SD.net Dept. of Biological Sciences
There is Grandeur in the View of Life; it fills me with a Deep Wonder, and Intense Cynicism.
"Unaccetable, if we wanted death theats we'd stay at war. Nevermind the fact that that prevents any potential expansion into inhabited but independant worlds."
You will have to adapt your protocol so as to not parasitize other sentient beings. Without the God aura your fool others into, no one would join you. Proven time and time again through history.
And you use mind control to get conqured worlds to march to your drumbeat. It's no different, simply a matter of scale.
lazerus wrote:
"She was an incredably skilled diplomat, I respect her thoughts and she changes my actions on a regular basis. We know that you have a spell called "Detect Thoughts" that should let you verify this for yourself."
Astinus hit each and every Jaffa with a Hold eprson spell before anyone could even blink
He then chanted a little and delved into the hosts mind...
She was a skilled diplomat, but the centuries of having no direct control over her own body was taking a heavy toll on her mind. She was screaming, her mind screamed to be freed
"Her mind wants freedom... It screams for it"
"You lie."
The above can be ignored.
GALE Force Biological Agent/
BOTM/Great Dolphin Conspiracy/ Entomology and Evolutionary Biology Subdirector:SD.net Dept. of Biological Sciences
There is Grandeur in the View of Life; it fills me with a Deep Wonder, and Intense Cynicism.
You have controlled the reactions of my people plenty of times
"Hmm, you care about your host... I can respect you for that... almost. The fact remains that you still alow her no direct control. Much like an abusive husband may care about his wife, but still controls every aspect of her life"
"She has lived for countless years, acomplished her lifes dream of brining peace to worlds, known more then most humans ever will. She is happy and has her say. And I get to exist. This is a Win-Win situation."
Duke Nethington observed the whole bickering with just a smile. He did raise an exebrow as those Jaffa stormed into the chamber.
<<Do you need assistance, Your grace?>> Admiral Tjoerhom asked.
<<No, I think the killing has been avoided. But you may prepare for a fast retreat...>>
<<So be it.>>
The ships in the battle group powered up their patterning cells and prepared for a fast retreat.
The Duke also made his emergency 'caster ready in his pocket. Better safe than sorry, was his credo.
"Well, I think everyone has made clear their positions. While the Arcane people certainly are a bit touchy, the Krynos Empire, or what remains of it, hasn't been innocent, too. If you want to destroy yourselves, it is your ultimate choice."
"Unaccetable, if we wanted death theats we'd stay at war. Nevermind the fact that that prevents any potential expansion into inhabited but independant worlds."
You will have to adapt your protocol so as to not parasitize other sentient beings. Without the God aura your fool others into, no one would join you. Proven time and time again through history.
And you use mind control to get conqured worlds to march to your drumbeat. It's no different, simply a matter of scale.
We do so only to protec their lives and the lives of our soldiers, it is a temporary measure only, lasting a few days so that thousands are not killed when we land. It is considerably different.
GALE Force Biological Agent/
BOTM/Great Dolphin Conspiracy/ Entomology and Evolutionary Biology Subdirector:SD.net Dept. of Biological Sciences
There is Grandeur in the View of Life; it fills me with a Deep Wonder, and Intense Cynicism.
"Astinus. We are not here to evaluate their culture. Certainly, it is distressing- but then, so is your mageocracy, and the blood-cults of the Vampire lords. It is, rather, our job to preserve some semblance of peace. Now, we appear to have an agreement. The Hajr would be pleased to allow you to sign it on a neutral world- say, our planet of Hudson?"
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite.
John Kenneth Galbraith (1908 - )
Alyrium Denryle wrote:
You will have to adapt your protocol so as to not parasitize other sentient beings. Without the God aura your fool others into, no one would join you. Proven time and time again through history.
And you use mind control to get conqured worlds to march to your drumbeat. It's no different, simply a matter of scale.
We do so only to protec their lives and the lives of our soldiers, it is a temporary measure only, lasting a few days so that thousands are not killed when we land. It is considerably different.
"You do it to protect the lives of your troops, we do it to protect the lives of our children. It's no different."
"The difference is, our control fades after a week, your lasts centuries. And all we do is modify opinions, we do not take complete control. The difference is still massive"
GALE Force Biological Agent/
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There is Grandeur in the View of Life; it fills me with a Deep Wonder, and Intense Cynicism.
Thirdfain wrote:"Astinus. We are not here to evaluate their culture. Certainly, it is distressing- but then, so is your mageocracy, and the blood-cults of the Vampire lords. It is, rather, our job to preserve some semblance of peace. Now, we appear to have an agreement. The Hajr would be pleased to allow you to sign it on a neutral world- say, our planet of Hudson?"
Alyrium Denryle wrote:"We would love to sign on a neutral world"
Turning back to the Goa'Uld
"The difference is, our control fades after a week, your lasts centuries. And all we do is modify opinions, we do not take complete control. The difference is still massive"
"With this bickering settled." The Spider Drone lifted itself up to more clearly speak. "The Overseer has a request of the Organic nations. We know your civilizations to be limited to those worlds capable of supporting you. There are a number of systems which cannot do so, for their worlds are barren and lifeless. The Overseer, able to use these worlds, therefore wishes to claim them, and hear all opposition to such a move."
Manic Progressive: A liberal who violently swings from anger at politicos to despondency over them.
Out Of Context theatre: Ron Paul has repeatedly said he's not a racist. - Destructinator XIII on why Ron Paul isn't racist.
"Excellent. Bondwoman, I believe your function here has ended. Mine, on the other hand, has just begun. Bondman Astinius. I assume you have demands for the Hajr?"
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite.
John Kenneth Galbraith (1908 - )
The goa'ould voice suddently stops doing the "Voice" thing, and she sounds like a normal human.
"Heh, I remember when I was on Earth. We had to learn about how Germany signed the Treaty of Versailles, and I wondered what it must have felt like from the german point of view.........now I know." *grins*
"Now, on the subject of those spellbooks... We know the Ousters have aqcuired copies and are undoubtedly using them for military purposes. There is nothing we can really do about that, the spells are minor, their usefullness to you will be limited. Especially because you have to translate them... and that wil not be easy. Dont worry about it. We will not persue you on the matter. However if they are ever used against our people, we will come down on you like the Tarrasque on a small hamlet. Consider the issue closed."
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There is Grandeur in the View of Life; it fills me with a Deep Wonder, and Intense Cynicism.