STGOD 4 OOC Thread (part 2)

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2004-09-01 08:32pm

frigidmagi wrote:Frankly the UP will be happy knowing that there aren't massive factories pumping out ship and 24 planet populations being turned into cannon fodder troops.

Well, without massive cloning or breeding programs, the populations of the worlds would amount to a relatively insignificant number of total fighting men compared to current STGOD militaries, even if every able-bodied person was drafted.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-09-01 08:34pm

That's part of the worry, however if the comproise is acceptted than it will be impossible for the Etern to do any such program with us noticing.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-09-01 08:37pm

The Etern do not have cloning tech, and are showing no signs of developing it. Cultural taboo, much like transporting humans in a.. Transporter.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-09-01 08:51pm

Something the UP does not know.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-09-01 08:56pm

frigidmagi wrote:Something the UP does not know.

Prolly won't take long for your intel to find, assuming that you would either contact your agents among them, or send them soon.

Shark Bait · Post by **Shark Bait** » 2004-09-01 10:25pm

hi everyone I know I havent posted in a long time, I was traveling then setteling into college and now with a fairly heavy cource load it seems I have even less time. with that in mind unfortunately i must leave the stgod thanks for letting me play it was fun while it lasted.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-09-01 10:27pm

Good luck at school. Knowing my first semester, I can say you're prolly making the right choice

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-09-01 10:33pm

Yeah, enjoy your first year. Don't party too hard.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-09-02 01:15am

Look the Ouster's Main Spokesmen!

I'd like to thank Marcao for pointing this out to me. Enjoy!

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-09-02 08:41am

Nope. If Slick had been me, I would have opened fire on the crowd. Why waste a good distraction?

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2004-09-02 11:45am

Thirdfain wrote:Nope. If Slick had been me, I would have opened fire on the crowd. Why waste a good distraction?

Actuallly, given the post time, I think Magi was referring to this strip

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-09-02 11:45am

Shark Bait wrote:hi everyone I know I havent posted in a long time, I was traveling then setteling into college and now with a fairly heavy cource load it seems I have even less time. with that in mind unfortunately i must leave the stgod thanks for letting me play it was fun while it lasted.

Hate to see you go

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-09-02 12:51pm

Where the FUCK did you get the material for a 400 kiloton explosion??

Post by **Beowulf** » 2004-09-02 01:05pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:Where the FUCK did you get the material for a 400 kiloton explosion??

1 kg of matter turning to energy will result in a 21MT explosion, roughly. The bike I brought had a DC power source that had .5 kg of fuel in it. So that's 10 MT. 400 kT would be about 4% of that. Not my fault that you failed to read my post on what I was bringing, or failed to realize the importance of such. Of course, I also made reference to what I was going to be doing earlier, when I pointed out to Thirdfain that he should know what the hell I'm doing there, considering that I used a DC bomb against him in STGOD2, to try to take out his government. Stormbringer figured it out immediately after I posted what I was bringing.

Why the fuck did you think I specified the fuel loads?

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-09-02 01:17pm

Alryium Denryle wrote:several minutes later, the garbage collecters came by. laced the contents of the trash can in a hover vehicle, and, as this was the last load, cleared the canopy and accelerated rapidly into orbit, where an unmanned garbage barge waited for this last load before heading toward the sun.

It opened a jumppoint, went through, and several moments later reoppened it. Encased all the garbage in a magnetized sphere, and used a railgun to hurl it all into the sun.

It was vaporized before it ever reached the surface.

What a wasteful civilization! You just lob trash into the sun? This is the future, everything gets recycled! Think of all the wasted materials... those could be made into beds, frisbees, bullets, food like products, electronics...

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-09-02 01:18pm

You realize that the tech level in STGOD 2 as also much much higher. You could have expected much better efficiency.. How did you trigger the bomb

Oh, and, coming back after that, is BS

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-09-02 01:19pm

InnocentBystander wrote:
Alryium Denryle wrote:several minutes later, the garbage collecters came by. laced the contents of the trash can in a hover vehicle, and, as this was the last load, cleared the canopy and accelerated rapidly into orbit, where an unmanned garbage barge waited for this last load before heading toward the sun.

It opened a jumppoint, went through, and several moments later reoppened it. Encased all the garbage in a magnetized sphere, and used a railgun to hurl it all into the sun.

It was vaporized before it ever reached the surface.
What a wasteful civilization! You just lob trash into the sun? This is the future, everything gets recycled! Think of all the wasted materials... those could be made into beds, frisbees, bullets, food like products, electronics...

You cant recycle food products.

ANd, we dont have replicator tech.

Marcao · Post by **Marcao** » 2004-09-02 01:23pm

Alrightie, this seems to be a point in time which needs pablo and I to get together and figure out where it should go. I have no problems, having Oni being badass. However, wether the post will be allowed to stand or not in its current original glory is something that I will debate with Pablo.

The fact of the matter is that if Oni can utilize these 400kt DC conversion bombs with any sort of regularity, Oni can concievably cause oodles of damage just about anywhere. As of right now, I have not given the situation nearly enough contemplation to lay down a ruling. Furthermore, I like to work with Pablo on stuff like this, so the mods can throw around thoughts and when a ruling comes, we can present a more or less unified front.

Ultimately, I think its preferable for players to work out stuff like this on their own, self-moderation is a wonderful thing but like I said before, I will get pablo to take a look and throw around his perceptions on the matter. Until then, keep the lively debate coming. Oh, I will have a few mod-rulings later today pertaining to Interdictor usage, and a few other tid bits that will prove damn handy should war erupt any time soon. ^_^

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-09-02 01:25pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:
InnocentBystander wrote:
Alryium Denryle wrote:several minutes later, the garbage collecters came by. laced the contents of the trash can in a hover vehicle, and, as this was the last load, cleared the canopy and accelerated rapidly into orbit, where an unmanned garbage barge waited for this last load before heading toward the sun.

It opened a jumppoint, went through, and several moments later reoppened it. Encased all the garbage in a magnetized sphere, and used a railgun to hurl it all into the sun.

It was vaporized before it ever reached the surface.
What a wasteful civilization! You just lob trash into the sun? This is the future, everything gets recycled! Think of all the wasted materials... those could be made into beds, frisbees, bullets, food like products, electronics...
You cant recycle food products.

ANd, we dont have replicator tech.

So? You have seperate trash cans for each type of waste and expect everyone to use them? Ahh, I don't think I want to finish my lunch, let me sort it. Lets see, paper goes here, food goes there, plastic, ahh that goes over here.
No, of course not, thats just stupid. You take the whole thing, bring it to a plant to sort and process it, then once you have a big mess of stuff you can't process, then you toss it into the sun.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2004-09-02 01:26pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:You realize that the tech level in STGOD 2 as also much much higher. You could have expected much better efficiency.. How did you trigger the bomb

Oh, and, coming back after that, is BS

A. Yes, I could have, but then again that bomb was big enough to take out a good section of countryside, as in crater instead of city. Then again, I did only do a 4% efficiency which is actually quite miserable, instead of something much higher.

B. I triggered a timer before I left the bike. Hence Oni checking his damn watch.

C. It ain't BS because I stated long before that I could do that. Back when I introduced my character.[/quote]

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-09-02 01:27pm

And that is just stupid as well. Doing that with seperate recycle cans is one thing. However, a trash can just laying on the street? No. That is just not cost effective.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2004-09-02 01:28pm

I'm sorry Beowulf, but the whole DC bomb thing was silly when you did it in the STGOD 2, and it's silly here. You can't realistically have expected Alyrium (or anyone) to counter it unless Alyrium was metagaming up the wazoo. That's not cool. You did something which is completely innocuous in-game and then turned it into a bomb, and the only way to counter it is to cheat, and use out of character knowledge from another game to stop you here.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-09-02 01:32pm

Beowulf wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:You realize that the tech level in STGOD 2 as also much much higher. You could have expected much better efficiency.. How did you trigger the bomb

Oh, and, coming back after that, is BS
A. Yes, I could have, but then again that bomb was big enough to take out a good section of countryside, as in crater instead of city. Then again, I did only do a 4% efficiency which is actually quite miserable, instead of something much higher.

B. I triggered a timer before I left the bike. Hence Oni checking his damn watch.

C. It ain't BS because I stated long before that I could do that. Back when I introduced my character.

[/quote]

Oh, I know about the fucking deathtoll. It is a minimum of 1.8 million sentients.

How is checking ones watch conducive to setting a timer? One is passive, the other is active.

And I meant, how exactly did you detonate the bomb? taking bike's power core and turning it into a 400 Kt bomb is... well wankery

Post by **Beowulf** » 2004-09-02 01:35pm

Marcao wrote:The fact of the matter is that if Oni can utilize these 400kt DC conversion bombs with any sort of regularity, Oni can concievably cause oodles of damage just about anywhere.

A 400kT nuke isn't any larger than what could conceivably fit onto a bike. Ever see a picture of an ICBM warhead? The DC bomb is non-nuclear, and so there isn't any nasty alpha, beta or neutron radiaton to worry about. The DC bomb does require rather easily identifable electronics. It ain't hard to find when you know what to look for. Anybody who knew about the OU in it's heyday, before it fell, should be familiar with what they used, and could find it.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-09-02 01:37pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:a trash can just laying on the street? No. That is just not cost effective.

I guess so, it should really be standing up, on a sidwalk.