[STGOD] Primary Story Thread

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-05-23 12:08am

Stormbringer wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:*sigh*

I suppose we shall just have to develop similar technology for ourselves.
The Durandal have indicated they wish to use such technology in military applications. It is not our intent to spread this technology in military weapons. Your refusal to forswear military use of this techonolgy (particularly given our history) is grounds enough for refusal to export it to you.

*Sigh* Oh well. we would have helped you with your engne tech with the research...but now we will have to create the hardware from the ground up. Oh well.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-23 12:13am

Alyrium Denryle wrote:*Sigh* Oh well. we would have helped you with your engne tech with the research...but now we will have to create the hardware from the ground up. Oh well.

Our engine tech is as advanced as you have or are likely to develop. We have just gone in different developmental directions.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2003-05-23 12:17am

Stormbringer wrote:To: ITA Head Office
From: Asgard Admiralty
Re: ITASF Reorganization

Cleary the ITASF is a messy hodgepodge of ships. Many are ill suited to the task of escorting freighters and none are trained in joint operations. What we propose is not a donated navy but a regular force composed of standardized ships with crews, drawn from all ITA member nations, that are dedicated to the ITASF only. The ITASF would answer to a defense council and the Chancellor.

We would be willing to help underwrite the cost and build such ships at cost. Our naval and/or space guard academies could begin training such a force.

I second this idea, and would like to make a similar commitment to subsidizing ITASF ships, provided the UPK be allowed to send military experts to this academy to share tactics and philosophies.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-23 12:20am

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I second this idea, and would like to make a similar commitment to subsidizing ITASF ships, provided the UPK be allowed to send military experts to this academy to share tactics and philosophies.

Our academy would be open to having experts from the ITA powers involved in the trainging of ITASF forces. This would apply to the all the nations though we reserve the right to keep our own military acitivities secret.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-23 12:23am

To: NBA Powers
From: Asgard Admiralty (BuShips)
Re: Tech Transfers

Given the advent of the FTL missle we are offering to release the FTL inhibitor technology developed by the Kokand for use in all New Beijing Alliance member's warships. In return we would appreciate any help increasing inertial compensator technology on the warship scale.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-05-23 12:30am

The OU has two Light Cruisers that have reached their designed end of service life. They are being sold internally and will be scrapped.

Raxmei · Post by **Raxmei** » 2003-05-23 12:34am

Stormbringer wrote:To: NBA Powers
From: Asgard Admiralty (BuShips)
Re: Tech Transfers

Given the advent of the FTL missle we are offering to release the FTL inhibitor technology developed by the Kokand for use in all New Beijing Alliance member's warships. In return we would appreciate any help increasing inertial compensator technology on the warship scale.

The Skaven Imperial Navy has excellent inertial compensation technology. Our Chaperon class armed tug has the designed and tested ability to survive sudden collisions even at very high speed.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-23 12:37am

Raxmei wrote:The Skaven Imperial Navy has excellent inertial compensation technology. Our Chaperon class armed tug has the designed and tested ability to survive sudden collisions even at very high speed.

What about larger vessels? Superdreadnoughts and carriers are around 3 klicks long after all.

And are you interested in the inhibitor tech?

Raxmei · Post by **Raxmei** » 2003-05-23 12:55am

Stormbringer wrote:
Raxmei wrote:The Skaven Imperial Navy has excellent inertial compensation technology. Our Chaperon class armed tug has the designed and tested ability to survive sudden collisions even at very high speed.
What about larger vessels? Superdreadnoughts and carriers are around 3 klicks long after all.

And are you interested in the inhibitor tech?

It is certainly possible to put that level of inertial compensation on a large vessel, but we don't generally bother. Very large ships rarely move fast enough to warrant it.
Unless we misunderstand. The inertial compensators I was talking about are for protecting delicate equipment (such as the crew) from the rigors of high acceleration. Is this the type of technology you seek?

And yes, we are interested in the inhibitors.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-05-23 01:19am

Stormbringer wrote:
There are three conditions:

1) Such technology not be exported to unlicensed third parties.

2) Honoring of patents (not likely a problem)

3) No disclosure of the manufacturing process or design specs to third parties.

Spyder wrote:
We have petitioned the trade minister to hasten his efforts.
All we ask in return for a licensing agreemens is a ten percent cut of the profits from products using our processors and the honoring of the import agreement terms.

[Minmatar]

Your terms are acceptable.

[Aktaeon]

10 percent is reasonable, we must however mention that our markup on aerospace technology isn't actually that high, at least not compared to our consumer electronics division. Also, we'll have to ask for non disclosure on any of our cost pricings that you require for calculating our licencing costs.

[Chancellor]

"I am in agreement with your suggestion that the ITASF should be standardized. I have no problem with Asgard facilities being using to train ITASF forces, if the program is successful then perhaps some permenant training infrastructure could be established. I believe we should prepare a full list of reforms for ITASF policy and the sooner the better. ITA members, let's hear your ideas."

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-05-23 01:25am

The OU supports the Asgard's motion to reorganize the fleet. We have felt the sting of piracy, and privateering, and know very well how to combat it. The OU would also like to help train the ITASF.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-23 01:33am

The Floater navies were originally designed to protect Floater holdings from pirate attacks, and our older-model Strike Cruisers (like the 20 we gave to the ITASF) are built with that mission in mind.

We will send some of our experienced captains to provide training assistance. Most of our combat experience before the Four Hour War was in pirate hunting, and many of our commanders have a great deal of experience.

Additionally, the Military Clusters Hadriel, out of Kharam, and Theseus, out of Zarathrustra, with their attendatn task forces (Total: 1 "Ebon Blade" Dreadnought, 1 "Seraphim" Dreadnought, 2 "Night Queen" Attack Carriers, 2 "Mother Void" Attack Carriers, 4 "Shadowstalker" Strike Cruisers and 15 "Battle Saint" Strike Cruisers, and 3 OAVs, 1 Troopship, 8 Fleet Tenders,)
Total:
2 supercapital
4 Capital
19 Escort
4 Combat Transport
8 Utility
2 Clusters

Will be dispatched to hunt the Kokander terrorists. In destroying a civilian convoy, they have violated the Peace of the Void, and will be hunted and slain as the pirates and lawbreakers they are.

Any of or allies who wish to send assitant forces, may. Our Fleet Tenders and Military Clusters carry enough fuel and supplies to support at most 5 more capital ships, or 40 escorts.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-05-23 05:31am

Daemonheim

<Look at the size of that destroyer!>

<She's around light cruiser size, not destroyer size.>
<Yeah, check out the size of her Dampener Sink, She's got to have shields ratings and Inertial compensators unimagineable for such a small package.>
<Yeah, but, where's the weapons?>
<All light systems, Interdictors, EW, Counter Battery Missiles and Point defense mounts>

<She's activating Main sensor grid!, *Main readouts just went offline*, Swithcing to long rnage bouys), Fuck!, switching to edge of system bouys, damn that's a good interferance field, I think everyone in the sector now knows that Kitsune has just activated her active sensor cluster....

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-05-23 06:05am

TO: ITA/ITASF
From The Packs

ITASF Donation (From Primary Q Ship Fleet)

Given the situation with Dangerous Pirates/Terrorists threatening interstellar Trade, The packs have Choosen to donate a 24 ship "Hunting Pack"

The Pack is equiped with the latest Fenari "Decoys", 18 Destroyers Standard Type. Flag Drakkar Cruiser Cu-Culain (Heavy Missile warship), Boarding Ship/Carrier Angel of Death, Fusion Siege Warships <Gift of Fire>. <Wolf who Rides the Waves>, Strike Cruiser <Kitsune> and Minesweeper/Utility ship <War Spoils-Mate-Hostage>

*Note names in "<>" are translated from Fenari word that means the same thing as the other extended word. Cu-Culain and Angel of Death are crewed/owned by the human "Exile Packs"*Decendants of human's who left earth for Economic/Political reasons, and settled too close to the Fenari Territory, most are of Irish/Scottish Heiratage,

Fenari ships are actually owned and crewed by extended families (Simular to the Athenian Naval Tradition.) Deticated Military vessels recieve special "Maintenace Payments" to cover the costs of Upkeep and upgrades.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-05-23 07:47am

"Gentlemen, as the Asgard pointed out, what the ITASF needs is standardization.

We need a standardized fighter class, a standardized system patrol craft, a standard frigte, a standard destroyer, and if push comes to shove a standard cruiser.

Now, I believe I have a solution for the patrol craft. My people's own Io class Light Carrier. It is a small craft with room enough for 10 fighters. While not exactly frontline warfare material the ship could serve the ITASF as in the form of a system patrol craft and small combat wing carrier. Now as for the fighters, we need something fast, like an interceptor, perhaps a design unique to the ITASF? As far as the frigates, destroyers and cruisers go, I will continue to allow contributions for these ship sizes, however due to the logistical costs involved I'm not going to be accepting anything bigger. I'm not prepared to spend 50 million credits out of the treasury to pay for the escorts of a 10 million credit trade convoy.

Now, there will need to be some modifications to contributed ex-navy vessels. For one thing, destructive weapon systems will need to be toned down in favor of surgical strike and in some cases EMP based sieze and capture weapons, as well as that they'll need additional sensor mounts for contraband detection as well as improved criminal identification systems. As mentioned, the crews will need training. This is where the Asgard come in. Asgard representative, if your academies are happy to train the ITASF forces, I am happy to send them there. I do however reccomend training instructors that could be sent to other institutes. The Oceana Union has also offered to train ITASF forces so if you run out of room with both ITASF and Asgard military cadets I reccomend offering them some of the load. The Minmatar naval academy on Abydos will also be available.

Now, the development of ITASF specific vessels is something that is going to need to be done somewhat quickly. We will need personel in the shipyards adept at functioning for prolonged periods of time in zero gravity. Floaters, I think you know where I'm going with this, would you be able to spare some workers for the shipyards?

Now, in order to modify the capital ships and construct our fighters we're going to need shipyard space. For this I suggest we rent space from private contractors. Infact I will be offering tax incentives to any aerospace corporation willing to offer their services to ITA members at cost.

Now, first thing's first...what will be our interceptor?"

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-05-23 08:02am

Since the packs closest vessel to a carrier is the Boarding Ship (Marine Landing Shuttles/Boarding Shuttles) they are staying out of this one.

However The Pack's would like to ask for support for the <Kitsune> class Scout/Sensor cruisers. THe packs incorporated large quanities of human technology rather then using "Normal" methods, It's enhanced Gravity sensors, Hyperspace Scanners, and wide frequency fire control system would make a good addition. However being mostly unarmed she would work best directing escourts. If the ITA likes this prototype we are certain we can supply complete technical readouts/loadouts for all member nations.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-05-23 09:11am

The Yosemite Bear wrote:Since the packs closest vessel to a carrier is the Boarding Ship (Marine Landing Shuttles/Boarding Shuttles) they are staying out of this one.

However The Pack's would like to ask for support for the <Kitsune> class Scout/Sensor cruisers. THe packs incorporated large quanities of human technology rather then using "Normal" methods, It's enhanced Gravity sensors, Hyperspace Scanners, and wide frequency fire control system would make a good addition. However being mostly unarmed she would work best directing escourts. If the ITA likes this prototype we are certain we can supply complete technical readouts/loadouts for all member nations.

As long as the running costs are kept down I approve the use of Kitsune class vessels.

In the meantime, as long as there is no trade lane disruption I will not be proposing any action against member nations conducting their own military operations with regard to Kokand Piracy. Until the ITASF's organisational problems are solved you are all free to deal with the problem as you see fit.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-05-23 09:37am

Spyder wrote:"Gentlemen, as the Asgard pointed out, what the ITASF needs is standardization.

We need a standardized fighter class, a standardized system patrol craft, a standard frigte, a standard destroyer, and if push comes to shove a standard cruiser.

Now, I believe I have a solution for the patrol craft. My people's own Io class Light Carrier. It is a small craft with room enough for 10 fighters. While not exactly frontline warfare material the ship could serve the ITASF as in the form of a system patrol craft and small combat wing carrier. Now as for the fighters, we need something fast, like an interceptor, perhaps a design unique to the ITASF?

Our Godless Class Fighters would fit that description very well. They are small, and their gravitic propulsion system allows them to accelerate extremely quickly, and almost literally "turn on a dime" as you humans would put it.

Now, there will need to be some modifications to contributed ex-navy vessels. For one thing, destructive weapon systems will need to be toned down in favor of surgical strike and in some cases EMP based sieze and capture weapons, as well as that they'll need additional sensor mounts for contraband detection as well as improved criminal identification systems.

We wuld be willing to write off the production of such weapons. Particle beams are very accurate, and our tractor beams are second to none. If need be they can be used to stop a ship, pull in ships, or even put to more...detructive uses.

Now, first thing's first...what will be our interceptor?"

We would be willing to begin production of a modified versio of our Godless Class Fighter, it is very vast, highly manuverable, and well armed for a ship its size. Or to help in the design of a fighter with similar elements in it's design.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-05-23 10:47am

Stormbringer wrote:To: NBA Powers
From: Asgard Admiralty (BuShips)
Re: Tech Transfers

Given the advent of the FTL missle we are offering to release the FTL inhibitor technology developed by the Kokand for use in all New Beijing Alliance member's warships. In return we would appreciate any help increasing inertial compensator technology on the warship scale.

The PIR will provide you with whatever information you need since we've already been doing research on that for several years.

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2003-05-23 12:46pm

The OA would like to suggest the Mujahedeen class Frigate as the ITASF's standard Frigate. This type of vessel is lightly armoured in comparison to some vessels, but it equipped with extensive sensor equipment, and is well suited for surgical strikes. In addition, many of our Frigate crews have also had a significant amount of experience against pirates.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-23 02:26pm

To: Asgard Trade Office
From: OU Bureau of Trade, Patents, and Copyright.
Re: The new molycirc processors.

The OU wishes to apply for an importation license.

To: OU Bureau of Trade, Patents, and Copyright
From: Asgard Trade Office
Re: The new molycirc processors

We would be more than happy provide you a license. You are immediately approved.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-23 02:41pm

Spyder wrote:"Gentlemen, as the Asgard pointed out, what the ITASF needs is standardization.

We need a standardized fighter class, a standardized system patrol craft, a standard frigte, a standard destroyer, and if push comes to shove a standard cruiser.

The Asgard proposal is to construct vessels purpose built for the ITASF. What we wish to do is design the vessel based with standardized technology to avoid the hodge-podge of technology and tactical applications. We would be happy to design the ships for the ITASF and indeed pay half the cost of them, should they be built in our yards. We would be willing work with others to provide the best possible design.

We also propose a "defense minister" (a non-rotating position) who will oversee the ITASF and answer directly to the Chancellor and a security council. Naturally, since will be contributing we would like to propose ourselves for this. Naturally we would step down from the Chancellorship rotation while we held the position.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-23 02:47pm

Raxmei wrote:It is certainly possible to put that level of inertial compensation on a large vessel, but we don't generally bother. Very large ships rarely move fast enough to warrant it.
Unless we misunderstand. The inertial compensators I was talking about are for protecting delicate equipment (such as the crew) from the rigors of high acceleration. Is this the type of technology you seek?

And yes, we are interested in the inhibitors.

The problem with our ships has always been the compensators. Our engines are capable of incredible accelleration but our compensators can not sustain it. Being as how we prefer our crews to return safe and sound we need to improve that.

When and what manner would be the best way to transfer the two technology?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-23 02:49pm

Cpt_Frank wrote:The PIR will provide you with whatever information you need since we've already been doing research on that for several years.

Excellent. Would a series of secure couriers be sufficient to pick up the information? And we would be happy to provide you the inhibitor technology if you are interested.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-23 02:57pm

Will be dispatched to hunt the Kokander terrorists. In destroying a civilian convoy, they have violated the Peace of the Void, and will be hunted and slain as the pirates and lawbreakers they are.

We ask that you treat them as privateers and turn them over to us for trial on mutiny charges. They are not pirates, they are misguided revolutionaries and we would consider their execution out of hand a grave violation of international law. Regardless of Floater feelings, convoys are legitimate targets in war. In the name of our good relations we ask that you not execute them. They will be tried for mutiny and dealt with appropriately if you choose to extradite them.