[STGOD] Primary Story Thread

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-05-23 03:17pm

To: Asgard Trade Office
From: de'Lorin Shipping And Goods Company
Re: Molycirc processors.

The de'Lorin Shipping and Goods Company wishes to apply for an importation license. The new processes will greatly increase the capability of our accounting, stock, and marketing departments.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-05-23 03:18pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Cpt_Frank wrote:The PIR will provide you with whatever information you need since we've already been doing research on that for several years.
Excellent. Would a series of secure couriers be sufficient to pick up the information? And we would be happy to provide you the inhibitor technology if you are interested.

For plans and information couriers will suffice, but we can also provide you with a 1:1 scale working prototype which is rather big, we could send it to you with a transport ship. The problem with that thing is that it consumes around 20 times more energy than the most powerful starship-based reactors can provide but I'm sure it'll be useful.
In exchange we would like blueprints, plans etc. about the FTL inhibitors.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-23 03:22pm

HemlockGrey wrote:To: Asgard Trade Office
From: de'Lorin Shipping And Goods Company
Re: Molycirc processors.

The de'Lorin Shipping and Goods Company wishes to apply for an importation license. The new processes will greatly increase the capability of our accounting, stock, and marketing departments.

To: de'Lorin Shipping And Goods Company
From: Asgard Trade Office
Re: Molycirc processors

The New Roman government does not have an import license. Until they obtain such a license we can not reach any agreement with your company.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-23 03:28pm

Cpt_Frank wrote:For plans and information couriers will suffice, but we can also provide you with a 1:1 scale working prototype which is rather big, we could send it to you with a transport ship. The problem with that thing is that it consumes around 20 times more energy than the most powerful starship-based reactors can provide but I'm sure it'll be useful.
In exchange we would like blueprints, plans etc. about the FTL inhibitors.

That is far more than we hoped for. We will send an armed and escorted transport to the PIR preferred location. Our ships will pick up the information and prototype.

We can provide with better than that. Thanks to our aquistition of Kokand naval shipyards we can send you the major components and instructions for manufacturing them. If you wish we can even provide you the plans we have made which we hope will produce an version of equal power while reducuing size.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-23 03:30pm

We ask that you treat them as privateers and turn them over to us for trial on mutiny charges. They are not pirates, they are misguided revolutionaries and we would consider their execution out of hand a grave violation of international law. Regardless of Floater feelings, convoys are legitimate targets in war. In the name of our good relations we ask that you not execute them. They will be tried for mutiny and dealt with appropriately if you choose to extradite them.

We agree that convoys are legitimate targets in times of war. Unfortunatly, There are no hostilities going on now. War is over.
Those who raid convoys, murdering innocents, are pirates and will be dealt with as such. They will be given fair trials, access to lawyers, and, if found guilty, their officers will be executed by exposure, and their enlisted men will be turned over to your authorities.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-05-23 03:34pm

Stormbringer wrote: That is far more than we hoped for. We will send an armed and escorted transport to the PIR preferred location. Our ships will pick up the information and prototype.

The prototype is located in the Mao system's orbital shipyards and can be picked up any time you want.

We can provide with better than that. Thanks to our aquistition of Kokand naval shipyards we can send you the major components and instructions for manufacturing them. If you wish we can even provide you the plans we have made which we hope will produce an version of equal power while reducuing size.

A most generous, offer, and we happily accept it. The transports are on their way and will reach Asgard space soon.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-23 03:34pm

Thirdfain wrote:We agree that convoys are legitimate targets in times of war. Unfortunatly, There are no hostilities going on now. War is over.
Those who raid convoys, murdering innocents, are pirates and will be dealt with as such. They will be given fair trials, access to lawyers, and, if found guilty, their officers will be executed by exposure, and their enlisted men will be turned over to your authorities.

The war is not over, not for them. They've declared war on you in the Kokand's name. So far they have observed the rules of war and yet you have not. For you to plan to murder them sits poorly with us. We have no doubt what verdict will be in you kangaroo courts.

No armed Floater warship shall be allowed in Asgard space.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-23 03:38pm

The prototype is located in the Mao system's orbital shipyards and can be picked up any time you want.

We will pick up the systems shortly.

A most generous, offer, and we happily accept it. The transports are on their way and will reach Asgard space soon.

Excellent. The materials can be picked up at our Martian station.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-23 03:39pm

A bunch of mutineers are not a legitimate government. They do not have the capacity to declare a legal war.

What they are doing is illegal. They are criminals, and nothing more, and will be dealt with as such.

You are right, our courts will probably convict them. What possible defense could there be for their actions? It is not like we could accidently capture the WRONG Black Forest-class Dreadnought

We would place this before a vote of the United Planets.

We ask for permission to hunt down these pirates, and treat them as such in our courts, should we capture them.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-23 03:49pm

Thirdfain wrote:A bunch of mutineers are not a legitimate government. They do not have the capacity to declare a legal war.

What they are doing is illegal. They are criminals, and nothing more, and will be dealt with as such.

They are operating under the aegis of a revolutionary government. While Kokand proper is gone, they maintain a resistance movement. We consider them mutineers as they abandoned their oaths but there is no question that this is a legitimate resistance and guerilla movement.

Thirdfain wrote:You are right, our courts will probably convict them. What possible defense could there be for their actions? It is not like we could accidently capture the WRONG Black Forest-class Dreadnought

We would hope you are more comptetent than that.. But we have no doubt you would space the lot simply for opposing you. Your vendetta against the Kokand seems to have abated not one bit.

So much for Floater claims of morality. You are far more blood thirsty than we ever realized though we should have given how greatly you pushed for war.

Thirdfain wrote:We would place this before a vote of the United Planets.

We ask for permission to hunt down these pirates, and treat them as such in our courts, should we capture them.

No armed Floater ships shall be allowed in Asgard territory unless they agree to the terms. We will not allow the murder of resistors to be allowed on our watch.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-23 04:00pm

The Asgard seem to worry far more about the well-being of the Bond-breaker pirates than they do about the countless innocent civilians they have the capacity to destroy.

Our task force will be launching immediatly. We will bring the pirates back to Zarathrustra in chains, before they can end another innocent life. We will find these vessels, and give their officers a fair chance before our courts. If the evidence against them is insufficient, then they will be let free. If not, they will be executed, and their crews extradited.

We will not sit on our laurels while privateers kill our people and our ally's people!

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-05-23 04:00pm

Thirdfain wrote:We would place this before a vote of the United Planets.We ask for permission to hunt down these pirates, and treat them as such in our courts, should we capture them

Your arrogance and disregard for the sovereignity of other nations certainly knows no limits.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-23 04:01pm

Your arrogance and disregard for the sovereignity of other nations certainly knows no limits.

We would ask what nation is having it's soverignity disregarded.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-05-23 04:05pm

Thirdfain wrote:
Your arrogance and disregard for the sovereignity of other nations certainly knows no limits.

We would ask what nation is having it's soverignity disregarded.

We were refering to your request to send warships into Asgard territory to hunt the rebels down.
Anyways, you can of course hunt them in international territory, however according to international law they're Rebels not Pirates.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-23 04:08pm

We were refering to your request to send warships into Asgard territory to hunt the rebels down.
Anyways, you can of course hunt them in international territory, however according to international law they're Rebels not Pirates.

We never requested permission to hunt their vessels in Asgard territory. We know they can't be basing themselves in Asgard territory.

We will hunt them in international territory, and we will begin probing uninhabited systems throughout known space.

We ask that our allies send some forces, perhaps no more than a few escorts, to assist our efforts.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-05-23 04:11pm

ATTN: all KSE allies
FROM: KSN high command
RE Type-36 heavy laser

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We have completed development of the type-36 heavy laser cannon (700 megatons 30 shots per min.) and are refitting our navel vessels each to carry six of them in addition to their standard weapons payload (except frigates and carriers, who each get four). We felt we should inform our allies that our navy will be under refit conditions for three months (all new ships are being constructed with the lasers already fit in, so in three months all our ships will have them) and we may have to rely on our allies greatly.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-05-23 04:14pm

Darksider wrote:ATTN: all KSE allies
FROM: KSN high command
RE Type-36 heavy laser

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We have completed development of the type-36 heavy laser cannon (700 megatons 30 shots per min.)

So we're throwing DS-9 tech levels out of the window then? Fine with me.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-05-23 04:14pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Spyder wrote:"Gentlemen, as the Asgard pointed out, what the ITASF needs is standardization.

We need a standardized fighter class, a standardized system patrol craft, a standard frigte, a standard destroyer, and if push comes to shove a standard cruiser.

We also propose a "defense minister" (a non-rotating position) who will oversee the ITASF and answer directly to the Chancellor and a security council. Naturally, since will be contributing we would like to propose ourselves for this. Naturally we would step down from the Chancellorship rotation while we held the position.

Our problem with this is that the nation who controlled the "defense minister" would be in a position to use this power for uncontrolled gain, exactly the thing which the ITA would want to stop.

Also I will say this, we are opposed to the Idea on a whole for the problems it would have, and for it turning the ITA into a regional military power. Thus we would like to vote NEA, and veto this proposal. Also we will say this, the two regiments of marines you have from us now are all you will get if this sillyness continues.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-23 04:14pm

Thirdfain wrote:The Asgard seem to worry far more about the well-being of the Bond-breaker pirates than they do about the countless innocent civilians they have the capacity to destroy.

Our task force will be launching immediatly. We will bring the pirates back to Zarathrustra in chains, before they can end another innocent life. We will find these vessels, and give their officers a fair chance before our courts. If the evidence against them is insufficient, then they will be let free. If not, they will be executed, and their crews extradited.

We will not sit on our laurels while privateers kill our people and our ally's people!

We are doing what we can to arrest and try the mutineers. However we do not wish to see them murdered in the name of your bloodthirsty vendetta. It is our wish to see them tried for mutinty not murdered in kangaroon Floater courts.

And the Asgard and Kokand people certainly feel more sympathy for the rebels than you and your allies. You reap what you sow after all.

You have started a war, and regrettably the war has claimed more lives. However the rebels have conducted themselves in accordance with international law. Convoys are legitimate targets.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-05-23 04:15pm

Cpt_Frank wrote:
Darksider wrote:ATTN: all KSE allies
FROM: KSN high command
RE Type-36 heavy laser

:::::::ENCODED TRANSMISSION::::::::::

We have completed development of the type-36 heavy laser cannon (700 megatons 30 shots per min.)
So we're throwing DS-9 tech levels out of the window then? Fine with me.

Ok, yeild only 60 megatons

EDIT: RPM only 25

and how come nobody said this when i (albiet accidentally) used a nine gigaton weapon against a Kokand planet?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-23 04:18pm

Our problem with this is that the nation who controlled the "defense minister" would be in a position to use this power for uncontrolled gain, exactly the thing which the ITA would want to stop.

How so? They would answer to the ITA as a body, not solely to the defense minister. It would be no different that the position of Chancellor.

Also I will say this, we are opposed to the Idea on a whole for the problems it would have, and for it turning the ITA into a regional military power. Thus we would like to vote NEA, and veto this proposal. Also we will say this, the two regiments of marines you have from us now are all you will get if this sillyness continues.

We regret this but we see the necessity of turning the ITASF into a credible force rather than the paper tiger it is now.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-23 04:19pm

However we do not wish to see them murdered in the name of your bloodthirsty vendett

Our people were prepared to end hostilities. We were prepared to live and let live. There have been no Floater privateers striking Asgard shipping! If you are worried about bloodthirsty vendettas, I ask you to look no furthur than those Kokanders who have mutinied. They have vendettas down to an art.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-23 04:29pm

Thirdfain wrote:Our people were prepared to end hostilities. We were prepared to live and let live. There have been no Floater privateers striking Asgard shipping!

Do you think we are doing nothing about this? Then you are truly fools. We are trying to aprehend them for mutiny. But we will not see you butchering them.

Thirdfain wrote:If you are worried about bloodthirsty vendettas, I ask you to look no furthur than those Kokanders who have mutinied. They have vendettas down to an art.

You started a war that resulted in their nation's downfall. A war you made inevitable by your belligerence. Yet for all that they have obeyed the rules of war. You on the other hand, are contemplating murdering them for resisting.

The Asgard goverment has filed a crimes against sentience claim against the Floaters as of 900 hours this morning.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-23 04:35pm

Do you think we are doing nothing about this? Then you are truly fools. We are trying to aprehend them for mutiny. But we will not see you butchering them.

You seem more worried about the fact they deserted your control than the fact that they have killed thousands. We suspect your ability to give them a fair trial, as you have already asserted that your nation has a bias towards the pirates.

You started a war that resulted in their nation's downfall. A war you made inevitable by your belligerence. Yet for all that they have obeyed the rules of war. You on the other hand, are contemplating murdering them for resisting.

The Kokand Empire's belligerence earned them their war with us, and the pain they suffered is NOTHING next to the pain felt by our people, and by the millions killed by their brutal usage of Weapons of Mass Destruction against civilian targets

Your attempt to paint the Kokanders as innocent victims is laughable.

The Asgard Empire seems bent on starting another war. Perhaps they should begin examining their own belligerence, before insulting other sovereign nations.

The Asgard goverment has filed a crimes against sentience claim against the Floaters as of 900 hours this morning.

You may do what you please. We are confident that your allegations will be thrown out of court.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-05-23 04:41pm

Thirdfain wrote:The Kokand Empire's belligerence earned them their war with us, and the pain they suffered is NOTHING next to the pain felt by our people, and by the millions killed by their brutal usage of Weapons of Mass Destruction against civilian targets

Who are you to judge the pain felt by the Kokand people?