Would you like to play Global Thermonuclear War?

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-10-02 05:36am

Holy flaming christ, backstabs are fun. Anyone up for a match Now?

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-10-02 09:44am

Okay, anyone else interested in either a tournament or a laddar?

DocHorror · Post by **DocHorror** » 2006-10-02 12:49pm

Yeah, we can give it a go.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-10-02 05:40pm

Played a game with MRDOD. Alternate history, Axis wins the Second World War. Decades later, the Japanese and Germans have a little disagreement.

Germany (us):
Adrian - Ostfront (Russia)
MRDOD - Third Reich (Europe)

Japan (AIs):
Japanese Empire (Asia)
Nihon Afuriku (Africa)

It was an exciting fight. My bomber and fighter swarms managed to destroy radar and air-defense installations in Manchuria, allowing me to rape Northern China, Central China, and Japan. Because of the narrower front, the Third Reich had problems assaulting Africa, where the tigheter air-defense made things difficult. He managed to turn the tide with good use of SSNs and their MRBMs. Toward the end of the game, the Japane let loose with all they had. I used my reserve subs and bombers to whack their last silos, then launched the 30 or so ICBMs I had left. By then I had pummeled Asia so bad I sent some toward Africa and the Middle East. See that nuke exploding over Palestine? That's mine, the second mine, and third or fourth total, to hit the area.

I think we started with 200 nukes. The Japanese and their cronies lost many of theirs on the ground or en route. Wereas the Germans and Russians got successful inpacts for most of them. Though African air-defense really did a number on the Third Reich's weapons, theirs was clearly the harder battle. A large part of my success is that India had been left uncovered. I was able to launch from my Western silos and pummel the Indian people with impunity.

Pictues of the aftermath:

Overall view. As you can see from the scores, we pwnt.

Population densities. Very thin in the Southern parts of the Eastern Hemisphere.

Close-up of Europe

Close-up of Africa

Close-up of Asia

Another overall view with the score. A bit closer than the first.

In summary, it was a great day for white people.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-10-02 08:18pm

I think the score system needs to take into account remaining infrastructure and units. North America is clearly the winner here since their silos, airbases, and radars are still operational. And they've got spare nukes. They have a military advantage that will remain unsurmountable for decades. Europe is listed as the winner because they killed lots of Africans. So what? The Germans slaughtered millions of Soviets, and the Japanese millions of Chinese, yet they both lost their wars.

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2006-10-02 08:20pm

Adrian Laguna wrote:I think the score system needs to take into account remaining infrastructure and units. The makers of the game say it is about "losing less", rather than winning, but look here. North America clearly lost less than anyone else, and they will be able to rubuild in the post war time better than anyone else. They also have a military advantage that will probably be insumountable for decades. Yet Europe is listed as the winner becasue they utterly raped Africa.

That's because by default rules, Kills are worth twice as much as your own deaths. If you want a REAL game, make the only scoring system 'Survivors' and 'nukes Left'

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-10-02 08:25pm

Nephtys wrote:That's because by default rules, Kills are worth twice as much as your own deaths. If you want a REAL game, make the only scoring system 'Survivors' and 'nukes Left'

I'd need to upgrade from the demo. Unfortunately, nobody is stocking this game. Walmart, Target, EB Games, it doesn't show up in their websites, so obviously their stores don't have it either. The only method is online, and that requires parental assistance. But I don't ask my parents for shit when it comes to videogames, it's the ruels.

Stupid internet paying system...

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2006-10-02 08:31pm

Adrian Laguna wrote:
Nephtys wrote:That's because by default rules, Kills are worth twice as much as your own deaths. If you want a REAL game, make the only scoring system 'Survivors' and 'nukes Left'
I'd need to upgrade from the demo. Unfortunately, nobody is stocking this game. Walmart, Target, EB Games, it doesn't show up in their websites, so obviously their stores don't have it either. The only method is online, and that requires parental assistance. But I don't ask my parents for shit when it comes to videogames, it's the ruels.

Stupid internet paying system...

If you can get to Walmart, chances are you can get to a Walgreens. If you can get to a Walgreens, you can get a prepaid debit card. It's simple, you give them money, they give you a card you can use as a debit/credit card. Which, of course, you can use for online purchases.

Post by **weemadando** » 2006-10-04 05:39am

I am getting better and better at the coordinated sub and ICBM strike on radars, airfields and silos followed by wave after wave of bombers hitting cities.

Seems to work against the AI reasonably well, but I am having a problem with anti-submarine warfare strategies.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2006-10-04 05:57am

For anti-sub I usually clear out a single carrier per group as quick as possible (by launching all fighters) and follow likely routes for subs. The AI is terrible at avoiding passing fleets or moving out of the way, so once you pick one up you'll easily destroy the whole group.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2006-10-04 01:37pm

Getting the timing of strikes from silos, boomers, and bombers coordinated is the biggest problem I'm having right now. When I get it right, the AI gets swamped and I win easily. When I don't, they pick the attack apart piecemeal and the best I can hope for is a tie.

Also, North America vs. Europe one on one makes for some intense naval combat, especially since the Atlantic is narrow enough for both sides to throw land based bombers into the fight.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2006-10-07 08:13pm

I got my proper version, and I'm wondering if anyone is still playing this? I don't want to play random people, cause I like to know who's beating me.

Post by **weemadando** » 2006-10-07 08:26pm

I'm still playing...

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-10-07 08:42pm

Stark wrote:I got my proper version, and I'm wondering if anyone is still playing this? I don't want to play random people, cause I like to know who's beating me.

I still got the demo, I'm willing to play if you are, though I'm limited to only standard games.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2006-10-07 08:57pm

I'm up for a game tonight.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-10-08 04:13am

Im playing, just tell me when to open servers.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2006-10-08 04:23am

Only 7 hours late

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-10-08 04:31am

I am 7 hours behind..

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2006-10-11 07:26pm

Okay, this is bullshit. I try to join a random Defcon game, and the retards in it are like 'lolz only America vs the continent'. They got shitty when someone in Europe attacked Africa.

I have not yet found an actual, free-for-all, diplomacy/lying based Defcon game online. Why are all the players tards? They also SUCK, and are laughably bad at the game itself.

ThatGuyFromThatPlace · Post by **ThatGuyFromThatPlace** » 2006-10-11 09:48pm

In contrast, I've never had a bad game through the 'metaserver' list.

ThatGuyFromThatPlace · Post by **ThatGuyFromThatPlace** » 2006-10-11 09:49pm

I've had a few merely okay ones, but there have also been games with more betrayals and backstabs than a European Prince of the Middle ages could have kept up with. (which is awesome by the way.)

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-10-12 03:43am

Stark wrote:Okay, this is bullshit. I try to join a random Defcon game, and the retards in it are like 'lolz only America vs the continent'. They got shitty when someone in Europe attacked Africa.

I have not yet found an actual, free-for-all, diplomacy/lying based Defcon game online. Why are all the players tards? They also SUCK, and are laughably bad at the game itself.

You're just unlucky.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2006-10-12 08:47am

Yeah, I've found a few guys now that make named games where it's all done properly. It was just a 'wtf' moment with those bullshit house rules, like it was fucking Starcraft or something.

PS, I rule against humans.

Ubiquitous · Post by **Ubiquitous** » 2006-10-12 10:45am

Are they working on any updates for this game? I played it for a while but I started to get a bit bored of playing against faceless morons .

ThatGuyFromThatPlace · Post by **ThatGuyFromThatPlace** » 2006-10-12 11:54am

Is there an IRC channel or something to coordinate SDN games? I've been playing with Ars (another forum I freq.) and playing wiht people you actually know (albeit only online) is much better than playing random fools on the meta.