No , your vessels are not necessary. Our ships on scene are acting merely to observe, and to keep a watchful eye on what we see as one of the great monuments of mankind. There is no need for any sort of concentrated military force.ATTN: DE
From: KSE
RE: FLoater shipyards
Since the Asgard intend to use the shipyards to build ITASF vessels, we are recalling our expeditionary force, unless the floaters wish for our assistance in patrolling the Womb
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The task group will withdraw immediatlyThirdfain wrote:No , your vessels are not necessary. Our ships on scene are acting merely to observe, and to keep a watchful eye on what we see as one of the great monuments of mankind. There is no need for any sort of concentrated military force.ATTN: DE
From: KSE
RE: FLoater shipyards
Since the Asgard intend to use the shipyards to build ITASF vessels, we are recalling our expeditionary force, unless the floaters wish for our assistance in patrolling the Womb
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You miss the point, we know you apprehended him and applaud you for it, the statement was made in response to the apparent misunderstanding of the events in this statement (Emphasis added)Stormbringer wrote:Of course they apprehended him you fool. Do you think we would just let a homicidal manaic run lose? We saw the tattoo but wish to actually identify the man. And we never recieved any request to hand him over before he was killed in his escape attempt.Straha wrote:But apprehend him they did, and they also did bring him into custody. On the way we know they striped off his armor and would have seen the tatoo on his chest saying he was a Monacoran Soldier. At that point they should have immeadietly detoured to the Monacoran Embassy and dropped him off as per what they requested with the Black Forest. And the reason why they held him in the first place is beyond us as he could not have been guilty of any crimes in the first place.
to try to apprehend this mad man...
No, but it takes about 3 seconds to se the tatoo on his chest, and then it takes about ten minutes on a bad day to contact the Monacoran Army asking if a man fitting a description is AWOL. When they reply in teh affirmative situation solved, and you hand him over.We did not insist on immediate return, merely as soon as possible. Surely you should realize that it takes a while to process a criminal from another nations.
No but I believe there is a consulate there from the days of the British Hegemony of the late 2300s is there not?There is no Monoracan Embassy in London. We would have returned him as soon as possible had we even know you were looking for him./
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Such decisions in any sane goverment are not handled by precinct commanders. No government operates on such a basis. And for that matter you government never so much as asked about him before his demise. Your government has clearly lost touch with reality if you expect a precinct commander to conduct international diplomacy.No, but it takes about 3 seconds to se the tatoo on his chest, and then it takes about ten minutes on a bad day to contact the Monacoran Army asking if a man fitting a description is AWOL. When they reply in teh affirmative situation solved, and you hand him over.
And need I remind you, a tattoo is not positive ID.
Not in the last century or more.No but I believe there is a consulate there from the days of the British Hegemony of the late 2300s is there not?
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ATTN: Monocoran Government
FROM: DE State Department
RE: Kidnappings
We regret to inform you that we must side with the Asgard on this issue. That monocoran soldier should have been charged with dessertion, that much is true. But the officers involved also have the right to defend themselves using whatever means necessary from a homicidal maniac.
Self defense is not murder. We will honor our mutual defense treaties if you go to war, but we will not allow our allies to force us into a war to defend an illegal action by your government. The Asgard acted wrongly, but you have acted more so.
We will go into your territory and remove those police officers and return them to their families ourselves if we must. Do not force us to do so.
FROM: DE State Department
RE: Kidnappings
We regret to inform you that we must side with the Asgard on this issue. That monocoran soldier should have been charged with dessertion, that much is true. But the officers involved also have the right to defend themselves using whatever means necessary from a homicidal maniac.
Self defense is not murder. We will honor our mutual defense treaties if you go to war, but we will not allow our allies to force us into a war to defend an illegal action by your government. The Asgard acted wrongly, but you have acted more so.
We will go into your territory and remove those police officers and return them to their families ourselves if we must. Do not force us to do so.
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We thank you very much for you actions in this matter.Alyrium Denryle wrote:ATTN: Monocoran Government
FROM: DE State Department
RE: Kidnappings
We regret to inform you that we must side with the Asgard on this issue. That monocoran soldier should have been charged with dessertion, that much is true. But the officers involved also have the right to defend themselves using whatever means necessary from a homicidal maniac.
Self defense is not murder. We will honor our mutual defense treaties if you go to war, but we will not allow our allies to force us into a war to defend an illegal action by your government. The Asgard acted wrongly, but you have acted more so.
We will go into your territory and remove those police officers and return them to their families ourselves if we must. Do not force us to do so.
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They were not even soldiers but rather police officers who merely did their duty in the matter.Thirdfain wrote:We ask that our Monacoran allies return the captured soldiers to their home country. Their actions appear to be quite defendable, and taking them into your custody was an unlawful action.
And we thank the Floaters for their actions.
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It is the position of the DE that a soldier or civil servant who defends himself should never be prosecuted. Regardless of whether they are our idealogical enemies or not.
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From: KSE
TO: Monacarn empire
RE: Your prisoners
I am afraid that the KSE must also take the position of the Asgard, the DE, and the Floaters. Those police officers acted in selfe defense and were merely doing their duty, defending the public against a madman with a gun. We also ask that you return your prisoners
TO: Monacarn empire
RE: Your prisoners
I am afraid that the KSE must also take the position of the Asgard, the DE, and the Floaters. Those police officers acted in selfe defense and were merely doing their duty, defending the public against a madman with a gun. We also ask that you return your prisoners
And this is why you don't watch anything produced by Ronald D. Moore after he had his brain surgically removed and replaced with a bag of elephant semen.-Gramzamber, on why Caprica sucks
As we have made clear before, we will be following all standard legal procedures, including the allowance of bail. If it would make it happier for you though we will be willing to pay the bail of the accused for them, ensuring their release.
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--Initiating computer overrides---
---Eye of Horus subsystem engaged---
The taxi locked it's doors and sped off at high speed into merging traffic. The last thing the passengers saw was the symbol of the Cult's judgement as their vehicle slammed into the traffic barrier.
In other news today 2 members of the "Blackforrest group" were killed in random traffic accidents this week. The official report suspects operator error....
Over in Asgard space it was strange, so far less then a dozen former Black Fleetists had died, all in strange ways involving common computer controled equipment. One of them had been using the refresher when the water temprature skyrocketed. Anther had been making breakfast when the oven began leaking gamma rays. Another's comm device suddenly broadcast noise at an exact frequency that causes brain siezures. This was too many cases to be coincidence.
One of the technitians found something puzzlng a symbol on the control chips of all of the devices. The chip in question had all burned out as part of the malfunction. A picture of a Piramid with an eye.
---Eye of Horus subsystem engaged---
The taxi locked it's doors and sped off at high speed into merging traffic. The last thing the passengers saw was the symbol of the Cult's judgement as their vehicle slammed into the traffic barrier.
In other news today 2 members of the "Blackforrest group" were killed in random traffic accidents this week. The official report suspects operator error....
Over in Asgard space it was strange, so far less then a dozen former Black Fleetists had died, all in strange ways involving common computer controled equipment. One of them had been using the refresher when the water temprature skyrocketed. Anther had been making breakfast when the oven began leaking gamma rays. Another's comm device suddenly broadcast noise at an exact frequency that causes brain siezures. This was too many cases to be coincidence.
One of the technitians found something puzzlng a symbol on the control chips of all of the devices. The chip in question had all burned out as part of the malfunction. A picture of a Piramid with an eye.
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Today the nine suspects in the killing of deserter Sergeant Janson of Duncan's Division were araigned. After a bail hearing, setting the highest bail amount at three hundred thousand dollars, the Monacoran Government paid for the bail, and for their travel back to England, as well as back to Monaco later in the year for their trial. In an Ironic twist of fate at the same time as their bail hearing in the lowest level of the courthouse, the ground work for a wrongful death lawsuit against the Asgard and the of teh Black Forest just above them. This could turn out to be an interesting legal year for us all.
Today the nine suspects in the killing of deserter Sergeant Janson of Duncan's Division were araigned. After a bail hearing, setting the highest bail amount at three hundred thousand dollars, the Monacoran Government paid for the bail, and for their travel back to England, as well as back to Monaco later in the year for their trial. In an Ironic twist of fate at the same time as their bail hearing in the lowest level of the courthouse, the ground work for a wrongful death lawsuit against the Asgard and the of teh Black Forest just above them. This could turn out to be an interesting legal year for us all.
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TO: All Nations of the Region
FROM: Mensia-Dorian Foriegn Office.
SUBJECT: New Status of our borders
We here at the MDFO and across the Hegemony feel deeply saddened for the economic loses of your traders while our internal enemies was dealt with. As you may not know there was a rebellion in one of our provinces (star systems) which is dealt with. Due to this our tariff rate of 7.89% has been lowered to 2.89%. Again, we spologize for your loses please continue and send more business.
Signed
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FROM: Mensia-Dorian Foriegn Office.
SUBJECT: New Status of our borders
We here at the MDFO and across the Hegemony feel deeply saddened for the economic loses of your traders while our internal enemies was dealt with. As you may not know there was a rebellion in one of our provinces (star systems) which is dealt with. Due to this our tariff rate of 7.89% has been lowered to 2.89%. Again, we spologize for your loses please continue and send more business.
Signed
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The nine hostages were returned home today after the Monoracan government posted bail in a continuation of this farce trial. After nearly a month in captivity they were returned home to England.
The recieved a heros welcome as their plane debarked at the airport. Crowds of well wishers and reporters were on hand but they were reunited with their families. After what we are told was a tearful reunion, several went on to address the assembled crowds.
"All of us are glad to be home. None of us were had ever thought something like this could happend. We were taken, snatched from our families by brutal thugs. Our families were forced to endure a terrible ordeal as we were held hostage to the whim of lunatics. All I can say is we are glad to be home with our families. We're glad it's over."
The nine hostages were returned home today after the Monoracan government posted bail in a continuation of this farce trial. After nearly a month in captivity they were returned home to England.
The recieved a heros welcome as their plane debarked at the airport. Crowds of well wishers and reporters were on hand but they were reunited with their families. After what we are told was a tearful reunion, several went on to address the assembled crowds.
"All of us are glad to be home. None of us were had ever thought something like this could happend. We were taken, snatched from our families by brutal thugs. Our families were forced to endure a terrible ordeal as we were held hostage to the whim of lunatics. All I can say is we are glad to be home with our families. We're glad it's over."
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To: Monacoran State Department
From: Asgard Foriegn Office
Re: Kidnapping
Given your recent bizzare, illegal and dangerous action we have no choice but to expel all your government and military personel. You will have one week to remove your personel or give notice as to your schedule for doing so.
Any attempt to retake your hostages will result in the use of deadly force on those making the attempt. We will not allow are citizens to be kidnapped at the whim of a government of lunatics.
From: Asgard Foriegn Office
Re: Kidnapping
Given your recent bizzare, illegal and dangerous action we have no choice but to expel all your government and military personel. You will have one week to remove your personel or give notice as to your schedule for doing so.
Any attempt to retake your hostages will result in the use of deadly force on those making the attempt. We will not allow are citizens to be kidnapped at the whim of a government of lunatics.
Your choice, the schedule will have everything but the Trondenheim embassy out in five days, Trondenheim is going to have some bad weather, and unless we can get permission to use a military transport we would be unable to reach it with our Ambassadorial transports.Stormbringer wrote:To: Monacoran State Department
From: Asgard Foriegn Office
Re: Kidnapping
Given your recent bizzare, illegal and dangerous action we have no choice but to expel all your government and military personel. You will have one week to remove your personel or give notice as to your schedule for doing so.
Any attempt to retake your hostages will result in the use of deadly force on those making the attempt. We will not allow are citizens to be kidnapped at the whim of a government of lunatics.
(OOC: One month for the detainment of the officers? You have to be out of your mind, at MOST it would take three days to get everything finished and over with.)
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Military transports would be unsuitable for obvious reasons. The storms should be passing at the end of the week, you can finish your departure then.Straha wrote:Your choice, the schedule will have everything but the Trondenheim embassy out in five days, Trondenheim is going to have some bad weather, and unless we can get permission to use a military transport we would be unable to reach it with our Ambassadorial transports.
Lietenent Commander William Bryan reclined in the bridge chair of the Monitor. He wasn't used to Hyper-space, the Monacoran Navy used a completley different, and much slower, system for Faster then Light travel. He was part of the team that was going to rework the ship into a servicable platform for Far-Point defense, his job was to change the bridge consoles from the Floater Dialect to the standard Monacoran language compatibility. Considering, though, he had the easy job, there was a Marine and warrant officer team taking apart as much of the Anti-Matter generator sytem as possible, making way for the installation of a quad fusion generator system which would take its place after a half week of refits in one of the shipyards. Five minutes later, after the first hyperspace enterence in the Far Point system, he could see something was wrong, Battle-Stations were being tugged into place around Far-Point itself, the Naval traffic in orbit was larger then anything he had ever seen, and the convoy taking shape had no guards surrounding it. The tugs weren't doing anything different though, the obvious destination was one of the refit shipyards. The refitting of the first reclaimed Monitors began.
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'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan
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::General Freecast::
The Republic of Mohaim must comdemn the actions of the Monacoran Empire. They are acting in an uncharacteristic fashion, which is both immoral and foolish. If they continue to violate international law and human rights, we will be forced to end our military agreements.
We ask that our Monacoran friends make some major changes in the fashion with which they are approaching the Asgard Empire.
The Republic of Mohaim must comdemn the actions of the Monacoran Empire. They are acting in an uncharacteristic fashion, which is both immoral and foolish. If they continue to violate international law and human rights, we will be forced to end our military agreements.
We ask that our Monacoran friends make some major changes in the fashion with which they are approaching the Asgard Empire.
We understand, thus why we asked for admittence.Stormbringer wrote:Military transports would be unsuitable for obvious reasons. The storms should be passing at the end of the week, you can finish your departure then.Straha wrote:Your choice, the schedule will have everything but the Trondenheim embassy out in five days, Trondenheim is going to have some bad weather, and unless we can get permission to use a military transport we would be unable to reach it with our Ambassadorial transports.
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'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan
'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan
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As it is well known across the known galaxy, the Monocorans recently released their Asgard captives, charged with the murder of a Monocoran desserter, and maniac gunman, on bail back into Asgard Territory.
In response to this travesty, the DE population voted to officially condemn the Monocoran government for their actions 98%-2%.
"There is no moral or legal justification for the actions of our Monocoran allies, demanding that we be able to hold trials for a group of terrorists that kill our civilians is one thing, but charging police officers who defended themselves is another."
Says DE citizen Meloothar Seltendir.
A dissenting opinion.
"Those Asgard bastards deserve to have the book thrown at them, they let the Black Forest terrorists off scott free, they klled my little brother*cries*"
So you have it...
The DE government is currently in talks with the Floaters as to what to do if this issue comes to war.
As it is well known across the known galaxy, the Monocorans recently released their Asgard captives, charged with the murder of a Monocoran desserter, and maniac gunman, on bail back into Asgard Territory.
In response to this travesty, the DE population voted to officially condemn the Monocoran government for their actions 98%-2%.
"There is no moral or legal justification for the actions of our Monocoran allies, demanding that we be able to hold trials for a group of terrorists that kill our civilians is one thing, but charging police officers who defended themselves is another."
Says DE citizen Meloothar Seltendir.
A dissenting opinion.
"Those Asgard bastards deserve to have the book thrown at them, they let the Black Forest terrorists off scott free, they klled my little brother*cries*"
So you have it...
The DE government is currently in talks with the Floaters as to what to do if this issue comes to war.
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To: Mohaim Cluster
From: Asgard Trade Burea
Re: Technical Assistance
We are inquiring about the possiblity of hiring some of your starship engineers to assist us in bringing the Alpha Centuari yards back into service. You help would greatly reduce the time it will take to get the ITASF ships into production and certainly you are interested in such a goal?
We, in our position as ITA Minister of Fleet Assests, would be willing to guarentee fair wages and benefits. Work be for a term of no more than six months and no less than three.
From: Asgard Trade Burea
Re: Technical Assistance
We are inquiring about the possiblity of hiring some of your starship engineers to assist us in bringing the Alpha Centuari yards back into service. You help would greatly reduce the time it will take to get the ITASF ships into production and certainly you are interested in such a goal?
We, in our position as ITA Minister of Fleet Assests, would be willing to guarentee fair wages and benefits. Work be for a term of no more than six months and no less than three.
Monacoran Freecast
Due to recent issues over possible war we will say this. If our actions alone lead us into a unprovoked war we will waive any rights granted to us in the European Alliance and will go it alone. We will not have our friends and allies die for our mistake.
From the office of the Prince.
Due to recent issues over possible war we will say this. If our actions alone lead us into a unprovoked war we will waive any rights granted to us in the European Alliance and will go it alone. We will not have our friends and allies die for our mistake.
From the office of the Prince.
'After 9/11, it was "You're with us or your with the terrorists." Now its "You're with Straha or you support racism."' ' - The Romulan Republic
'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan
'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan