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You're just jealous because SPORE redefined gaming.Stark wrote:Shit that's all good stuff. Not current enough for today's kiddies, I think. Fucking Will Wright. Fucking Peter 'Everything I Say Is A Lie' Molyneux.Vympel wrote:Does anyone give a fuck about those guys anymore? The only ones who are even remotely relevant nowadays are Peter Molyneux, John Carmack, and of course Will Wright (Will Wright! Pee on Us!).
People forget for some reason that the Baldur's Gate games were done in conjunction with Black Isle (Now Obsidian), a team that did have some of the best writing talent in the industry (They did Planescape Torment for example, and Fallout). Nowadays though, as Obsidian they can't make a working, finished game (Kotor 2, which wasn't their fault, but also Vampire TM: Bloodlines, and some other game whose name escapes me, not Arcanum).Starglider wrote:
Bioware are genuinely overrated. The Baldur's Gate series was only good because it could draw on a huge base of D&D material that had never been done competently in a computer RPG before. Ditto KOTOR. They have been going downhill since then; NWN was incredible blandness and substandard graphics saved only by user modules. Mass Effect was wildly overrated. The plot was unoriginal and boring, art was bland, the gameplay mechanics were pretty awful, it was horribly repetitive (or rather, padded) etc. It's conceivable but not likely that the sequel will fix most of that.
I think the Neux is an interesting example. It's fairly obvious that he really wants to deliver on his promises, and that he has ambitious, at times inexplicable, design goals which his team are entirely incapable of meeting. He's really earnest about it all, too. You obviously can't believe what he's got to say, because a lot of the time he's just speaking complete jibberish. That said, a man whose stated goal for Fable II was 'to make the player feel love' cannot be called bad. Just ... delusional?Stark wrote:Fucking Peter 'Everything I Say Is A Lie' Molyneux.
I'm pretty sure that, to complete the main quest, you don't actually have to talk to your party. That said, why would you complain about them? They're pretty much the only sequences which you can describe as competantly written and delivered. Even Ashley's dribbling is worthwhile just to hear Sheppard reply to her. He sounds pretty neutral but it's obvious that he thinks she's a complete nutcase, even when using the nice responses.weemadando wrote:Having to talk to everyone in your crew after each mission. Because you need to know their stories. Because. Just because. Never mind that half of my crew I'd toss out the airlock in Mass Effect first chance I got, I have to talk to these people. I hope there's an option to tell that racist human bitch that you only fucked her because she was easy once you nail her. I'd take my fucking renegade points for that.
Speaking of movies, there's always Hideo Kojima. Wasn't Metal Gear Solid 4 something like half an hour of cutscenes before you even start playing?Vympel wrote:Chris Roberts, there's a weird one - was so obsessed with doing movies, he turned his games into them, then went off to produce films, or some shit.
My experience regarding Blizzard rep is actually the opposite. I find that they are more a target of hate than adoration. There are the people who don't play Blizzard games and consider them to be permavirgin factories that kill Koreans, and those who do who start shitting bricks whenever their WoW server hiccups.Lord Woodlouse wrote:My vote would personally go for Blizzard. Their games aren't bad, as such, but the fanbase surrounding them gets on my tits. Same with Bungie.
I'll admit in Mass Effect they have some good ones: Wrex and Garrus are both interesting, but Kaidan and the Quarian are just walking, talking codexes thus far. Liara and Ashley may be interesting, but I was a bit let down by Liara as I did Noveria first and whacked her mum, then went and found her. Sadly my first dialogue option when finding her in the bubble couldn't be: "I just want to get this out in the open first, but I just killed your mother. Do you still want my help?"Ford Prefect wrote:I'm pretty sure that, to complete the main quest, you don't actually have to talk to your party. That said, why would you complain about them? They're pretty much the only sequences which you can describe as competantly written and delivered. Even Ashley's dribbling is worthwhile just to hear Sheppard reply to her. He sounds pretty neutral but it's obvious that he thinks she's a complete nutcase, even when using the nice responses.weemadando wrote:Having to talk to everyone in your crew after each mission. Because you need to know their stories. Because. Just because. Never mind that half of my crew I'd toss out the airlock in Mass Effect first chance I got, I have to talk to these people. I hope there's an option to tell that racist human bitch that you only fucked her because she was easy once you nail her. I'd take my fucking renegade points for that.
Uhh, that was Troika. So was Arcanum. You've only mentioned one Obsidian game, that being KOTOR2.but also Vampire TM: Bloodlines
I didn't think that at all. Every single Renegade choice that I can recall made perfect sense for someone who wanted to advance his legitimate interests and point of view from a completely amoral perspective. Renegade != Evil. There's not a single moment in ME that I can recall that had anywhere near the cartoonish level of villainy displayed in KOTOR.For example, my Shepherd looks about 40+ and is ravaged (lined face, scars etc) and is a Spacer/War Hero. I split points early on between Charm and Intimidate, but it just became so irritating because like all their other games the "renegade" was in fact "Fuck you, I want to drown your babies" which didn't play into the character I had in mind.
I just wanted there to be a bit more definition, sometimes the "Renegade" option was just that touch too far past what I wanted or would automatically lead to combat. Goddamnit - I'm a war-hero rolling with Wrex and Garrus, my "intimidate" option should be: "you know this doesn't end well for you don't you?" or something similar to make them give up through threat of violence, not just "enough talk, let's fight."Vympel wrote:Uhh, that was Troika. So was Arcanum. You've only mentioned one Obsidian game, that being KOTOR2.but also Vampire TM: Bloodlines
I didn't think that at all. Every single Renegade choice that I can recall made perfect sense for someone who wanted to advance his legitimate interests and point of view from a completely amoral perspective. Renegade != Evil. There's not a single moment in ME that I can recall that had anywhere near the cartoonish level of villainy displayed in KOTOR.For example, my Shepherd looks about 40+ and is ravaged (lined face, scars etc) and is a Spacer/War Hero. I split points early on between Charm and Intimidate, but it just became so irritating because like all their other games the "renegade" was in fact "Fuck you, I want to drown your babies" which didn't play into the character I had in mind.
