phongn wrote:You may want to try reinstalling Steam. Your DLL may have become corrupted (and chkdsk/scandisk wouldn't neccessarily detect that). You could also ask around for the steam.dll library file if needed.
Well, it seems that an actual vanilla Steam installation doesn't exist
I've not seen anything other than Steam installation + cache for whatever mod
I don't want to download some POS Richochet or install over CS or TFC just to reinstall Steam
Can't you do a file search for STEAM.DLL ?
I knew where the .dll is
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Pablo Sanchez wrote:Perhaps this will all just make DOOM III a bigger success.
Oh fuck YES. Guess which one I'm getting in 2004? The Buggy spyware laden
program that requires me to use DirectX9 and download 700MB patches,
or the OpenGL program that does NOT have spyware isntalled?
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I don't really consider Steam to be spyware. As for patches, Valve had better figure out how to push updates without updating massive sections of the game.
Pablo Sanchez wrote:Perhaps this will all just make DOOM III a bigger success.
Oh fuck YES. Guess which one I'm getting in 2004? The Buggy spyware laden
program that requires me to use DirectX9 and download 700MB patches,
or the OpenGL program that does NOT have spyware isntalled?
Dude Shep, at least get the facts straight before mouthing off like that. If you already have the game installed, the patches (which are automatic) are just a couple megs, maybe upwards of 50 if you haven't played for 6 months. The 700mb files are complete Steam downloads WITH game attached. This is for people who refuse to have Steam work with the old downloads and thus they have to make a new standalone download. Furthermore Steam isn't spyware.
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Reinstalled Steam completely and can't play due to floating point errors
Valve, where the fuck were you during the beta test?
The only places to get help, the official Steam forums, are nothing but PR, with very few fixes provided for minor problems only
The stuff that prevents people from even loading up hasn't been fixed, and they're taking their sweet time getting to it
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Alyeska wrote:
Dude Shep, at least get the facts straight before mouthing off like that.
Tell Hamel and others who have to download 700 fucking megs that they're
hallucinating, and that these patches should only be a few megs at least
"If scientists and inventors who develop disease cures and useful technologies don't get lifetime royalties, I'd like to know what fucking rationale you have for some guy getting lifetime royalties for writing an episode of Full House." - Mike Wong
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
Alyeska wrote:
Dude Shep, at least get the facts straight before mouthing off like that.
Tell Hamel and others who have to download 700 fucking megs that they're
hallucinating, and that these patches should only be a few megs at least
Unfortantely for them (as well as myself) they represent a minority of the people using Steam. While more prone to problems then it should be, Steam IS working the vast majority of the time. The biggest problems behind Steam occured when they tried moving everyone on to it in a two week span. That overloaded the servers. Now that most people are on Steam those problems are starting to go away. My original problem even went away and I could have gotten Steam up and running without making a large download. As for Hamel, he's currently SOL. It DOES happen. For some damned reason I can't play Max Payne on my computer, but I don't blame Rockstar for that.
"If the facts are on your side, pound on the facts. If the law is on your side, pound on the law. If neither is on your side, pound on the table."
"The captain claimed our people violated a 4,000 year old treaty forbidding us to develop hyperspace technology. Extermination of our planet was the consequence. The subject did not survive interrogation."
They could try to use binary xdelta-like patches instead of distributing whole new binaries. Should shave off about 10-25% off of compressed stuff (tested deltaing 2 different versions of bash *.debs, and 50 off of uncompressed binaries (2 versions of the bash executable). Then pack these into an executable that will do this automatically. Obviously will not work if you want cumulative patches.
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Pu-239 wrote:They could try to use binary xdelta-like patches instead of distributing whole new binaries. Should shave off about 10-25% off of compressed stuff (tested deltaing 2 different versions of bash *.debs, and 50 off of uncompressed binaries (2 versions of the bash executable). Then pack these into an executable that will do this automatically. Obviously will not work if you want cumulative patches.
That method of patching has long fallen out of favor with game publishers.
Why? People too stupid to figure out which patch goes with which version or something leading to tech support costs?
Well, for gamers it doesn't matter, since most have broadband, but what about other software like MS service packs and such? Or do they do that with the net install?
ah.....the path to happiness is revision of dreams and not fulfillment... -SWPIGWANG
Sufficient Googling is indistinguishable from knowledge -somebody
Anything worth the cost of a missile, which can be located on the battlefield, will be shot at with missiles. If the US military is involved, then things, which are not worth the cost if a missile will also be shot at with missiles. -Sea Skimmer
George Bush makes freedom sound like a giant robot that breaks down a lot. -Darth Raptor
Pu-239 wrote:Why? People too stupid to figure out which patch goes with which version or something leading to tech support costs?
Probably, and those patches didn't always work for some reason or another.
Well, for gamers it doesn't matter, since most have broadband, but what about other software like MS service packs and such? Or do they do that with the net install?
Net install just detects what needs to be updated and installs the relevant files (as well as 'futureproofing' your install so that you don't need to reapply the SP after you add things to Windows, like how NT4 required).
To be fair, the 723MB version of Steam is the one with all of the game caches. Then again, if you play more than a couple of mods, then it's about the only solution right now.
I dled the full installer, but I have Cable, so I didn't mind. After getting used to some of the changes, I don't mind Steam at all. In fact, it has a lot of improvements over the old HL frontend, such as allowing you to Alt+Tab to Windows and back w/o losing sound and going crazy, the way it used to.
And you may ask yourself, 'Where does that highway go to?'
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Lord of the Farce wrote:To be fair, the 723MB version of Steam is the one with all of the game caches. Then again, if you play more than a couple of mods, then it's about the only solution right now.
Full Steam Installer (includes caches for all games): (723.4 MB)
Counter-Strike Steam Installer: (379.4 MB)
Half-Life Steam Installer: (211.6 MB)
Opposing Force Steam Installer: (289.8 MB)
Day of Defeat Steam Installer: (396.2 MB)
Team Fortress Classic Steam Installer: (272.3 MB)
Deathmatch Classic Steam Installer: (23.7 MB)
Ricochet Steam Installer: (15.5 MB)
The problem is that Valve is not offering Steam by itself
You are forced into downloading at least 1 cache
"Right now we can tell you a report was filed by the family of a 12 year old boy yesterday afternoon alleging Mr. Michael Jackson of criminal activity. A search warrant has been filed and that search is currently taking place. Mr. Jackson has not been charged with any crime. We cannot specifically address the content of the police report as it is confidential information at the present time, however, we can confirm that Mr. Jackson forced the boy to listen to the Howard Stern show and watch the movie Private Parts over and over again."
