Pirates! rules

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-12-06 02:34pm

Curses! Now he's playing games instead of writing StarCrossed.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-12-06 02:48pm

Stravo wrote:FUCK. What is it with all the good games coming out now? I haven't seen this many good PC games come around in such a small time frame. First RomeTW and Halflife 2 (Eagerly waiting for my shipment to arrive) and now I think I may add this game to my after Christmas shopping list. Fuck all of you for posting such great reviews that have me playing games again after months of not touching the stuff.

Tell me about it. Nearly played warhammer dawn of war. Played like RTW 2 weeks after I got DoW, + vice city I also had laying around. Bought HL2, played that a bit but put it in the freeze untill I get a better videocard.

Bah, i whish I could buy time to play it all

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-12-06 05:09pm

Who else thinks this game REALLY needs the ability to buy and customize your warships a la Uncharted Waters?

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-12-06 05:37pm

Bah, you know you really want to be able to capture a 1st-rate like HMS Victory rather than those puny 48-gunned ships

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2004-12-06 05:55pm

Is this game similar to Port Royale 1 and 2? I've got the second game and it is fun. I've got a three separate fleets consisting from military frigates to ships of the line.

Mainly I am a privateer.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-12-06 06:27pm

The Kernel wrote:Who else thinks this game REALLY needs the ability to buy and customize your warships a la Uncharted Waters?

I've never really found myself wanting for ships yet- in the sense that I can always capture a good one. Admittedly, I'm only 3 years into my pirates career, but I have my Brig of War, the Vengeance, fully upgraded to my knowledge with all the bells and whistles, and with 24 guns. A perfect pirate ship. I recently captured a Fast Galleon, but it doesn't look better stats wise.

My main objective now is to capture a Ship of the Line

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-12-06 06:39pm

Vympel wrote:
The Kernel wrote:Who else thinks this game REALLY needs the ability to buy and customize your warships a la Uncharted Waters?
I've never really found myself wanting for ships yet- in the sense that I can always capture a good one. Admittedly, I'm only 3 years into my pirates career, but I have my Brig of War, the Vengeance, fully upgraded to my knowledge with all the bells and whistles, and with 24 guns. A perfect pirate ship. I recently captured a Fast Galleon, but it doesn't look better stats wise.

My main objective now is to capture a Ship of the Line

I have a War Galleon which has 32 guns, but I like having the option to customize stuff. Wouldn't it be sweet if you could build a ship from scratch, select the hull size, building materials, cannons, etc?

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-12-06 08:42pm

phongn wrote:Bah, you know you really want to be able to capture a 1st-rate like HMS Victory rather than those puny 48-gunned ships

HMS Victory wouldn't make all that good of a pirate ship. Too slow; she cannot force an engagement with a merchantman.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2004-12-06 09:46pm

I kicked ass on the original. english dog cutting through the southern cities, panama to the U shaped inlet, replacing every last spanish gov'ner with english mayors, and marrying their daughters

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2004-12-06 10:15pm

Last night, I retired my first pirate at age 36 (in poor health). Objectives completed includes being the number 1 pirate (defeating 6/9 top-ten pirates), finding all pirate treasures, finding sister (1/4 family members), defeating the evil Marquis at his secret hideout, getting married to the beautiful English daughter of Nevis. I also had 16,000 something gold (after dividing with the pirate crews) and 20,000 something acres of land. Oh, and I was an English Duke, and somewhere between Admiral and Marquis for the others.

Ship of Choice: Large Frigate (but only because I haven't found any Ship of the Line... yet), while having Trade (and the occasional Treasure) Galleons tag along as consumable and troop carriers (for land battles).

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-12-07 07:12am

How do you get married anyway?

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-12-07 07:14am

is this it?

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-12-07 07:18am

Yes. Go forth, young man, and buy it. Now.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-12-07 07:27am

Vympel wrote:How do you get married anyway?

Get a lot of fame, do a lot of dancing, then eventualy the Governor's daughter will get kidnapped, you can rescue her and you will elope.

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2004-12-07 09:32pm

The Kernel wrote:
Vympel wrote:How do you get married anyway?
Get a lot of fame, do a lot of dancing, then eventualy the Governor's daughter will get kidnapped, you can rescue her and you will elope.

Also, make sure to have the appropriate jewels (either a ring and a necklace, so make sure to get both) from those guys at the tavern, the daughter you are trying to court will ask about it soon after your first successful dance.

Thunderfire · Post by **Thunderfire** » 2004-12-08 03:49pm

Lord of the Farce wrote:
Ship of Choice: Large Frigate (but only because I haven't found any Ship of the Line... yet), while having Trade (and the occasional Treasure) Galleons tag along as consumable and troop carriers (for land battles).

You are to slow with that ship. A Royal Sloop is the best ship because it is fast in a battle and on the overland map. A Large Frigate get a lot of guns - it will kill often in 1-2 hits - I prefer to capture ship intact - you'll get alot of money that way. The AI in land battles need an upgrade. It is to easy to get a unit close to the gate and the AI is to predictable. Setting up a deathtrap is very easy.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-12-08 07:16pm

Bah, Royal Sloop is too puny. I agree with the Frigate. It's rated "fast", after all, and as long as it has that rating, I can force battle with any worthwhile target ... I just captured a Dutch Frigate carrying an invasion force last night. I'm on adventurer difficulty now (two "divide the plunder" refits).

How come I couldn't pick the era when I started the game, anyway? Hell, I really couldn't pick much of anything, IRRC.

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2004-12-08 08:08pm

But how does this game compare to Port Royale 2?

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2004-12-09 12:10am

Vympel wrote:Bah, Royal Sloop is too puny. I agree with the Frigate. It's rated "fast", after all, and as long as it has that rating, I can force battle with any worthwhile target ...

Going solely by the in-game encyclopedia, the main sailing difference between the Sloop and Frigate is that the Sloop has a tighter turning radius, and the Frigate has (one) more "Best Sailing Points".

How come I couldn't pick the era when I started the game, anyway? Hell, I really couldn't pick much of anything, IRRC.

You need to start a new game with Journeyman Captain (or above) difficulty level to be able to select the era. I've just started a new game at the last era, hoping to find a Ship of the Line. Of course, for the most part, I feel kind of sorry for the Spanish...

Enigma wrote:But how does this game compare to Port Royale 2?

I haven't played that game myself, but from what the website for it describes, PR2 is a trade simulation while SMP! is a pirate simulation (with trade thrown in, though that's not where the big bucks are).

Thunderfire · Post by **Thunderfire** » 2004-12-09 12:13pm

Vympel wrote:Bah, Royal Sloop is too puny. I agree with the Frigate. It's rated "fast", after all, and as long as it has that rating.

Hmm enemies have managed to outrun me when I had a frigate. I was able to cath up when I switched to a royal sloop.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-12-09 01:12pm

We loot we pillage, we plunder we snatch.

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2004-12-09 06:19pm

Thunderfire wrote:
Vympel wrote:Bah, Royal Sloop is too puny. I agree with the Frigate. It's rated "fast", after all, and as long as it has that rating.
Hmm enemies have managed to outrun me when I had a frigate. I was able to cath up when I switched to a royal sloop.

Well, if you really want speed, isn't the Mail Runner the best choice? Then again, at the harder difficulty levels, enemy ships will give you quite serious pounding with their more accurate and more damaging volleys.

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2004-12-09 06:34pm

Lord of the Farce wrote:<snip>

Enigma wrote:But how does this game compare to Port Royale 2?
I haven't played that game myself, but from what the website for it describes, PR2 is a trade simulation while SMP! is a pirate simulation (with trade thrown in, though that's not where the big bucks are).

PR2, you can trade be a pirate or a privateer in the carribean. Ships there range from pinnance (sp?) to the mighty but slow Ship-of-the-Line. (I've got about three fleets of a total of 26 to 30 heavy warships)

Ships (in no particular order just from memory):
Pinnance
Barque
Sloop
frigate
corvette
galleon
military frigate
military corvette
war galleon
ship-of-the-line

You can also marry a governor's daughter (no dancing though, also the governor's daughter seems to get into trouble a lot plus the fact that she's a slut since she constantly elopes with some pirate and you have to rescue her!)

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-12-09 07:04pm

Ahh, but can we make the Yankee racing galleon ahead of schedual?

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2004-12-09 09:39pm

the old game, you could hit the silver and gold ships, right out of panama.

that still a go in the new game?