SDN BFG Campaign Briefing/Q&A Thread

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2006-07-30 06:45am

The map as it stands now:

Edited: Because i didn't read the roster list fully.
Edit: smaller

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2006-08-01 10:48pm

So... Are pirates sending in their planets? Seems a bit quiet.

GeneralTacticus · Post by **GeneralTacticus** » 2006-08-01 11:09pm

Well, I'd still like an answer to my earlier question:

I wrote:What system are we using for production and repair?

Are we using the rulebook system, the one in NL's revised rules, or some combination of the two?

Anyway, I'd like to provisionally request the system of Oberal's Verdance.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2006-08-01 11:41pm

StarshipTitanic wrote:So... Are pirates sending in their planets? Seems a bit quiet.

Pirates live in the asteriod fields (or nebulas?) of systems, according to the rules they are absurdly difficult to locate; requring a ship to be observing the correct field while 5 ships dock there. Additionally eldar can move their pirate bases, making them even harder to locate

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2006-08-01 11:59pm

I know, that's why I didn't say "post." I was wondering if they had sent NecronLord their choices.

Prozac the Robert · Post by **Prozac the Robert** » 2006-08-02 08:41am

I'ms ort of waiting to see where everybody picks before choosing a base. I guess I've seen as much as I'm going to now though. (I'm also waiting for a reply to a different PM from NL.)

Also: 2000AD, any chance of a slight shrinking of that map? It's a bit wide for my monitor.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2006-08-02 09:09am

Question - how do we take unclaimed worlds? Land some troops, or is showing up with a cruiser enough? What about us poor pirates, can we benefit from unclaimed worlds?

Also, can we build a second pirate base, I didn't see anything about that in the rules.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2006-08-02 12:57pm

Prozac the Robert wrote: Also: 2000AD, any chance of a slight shrinking of that map? It's a bit wide for my monitor.

Done.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2006-08-02 03:42pm

StarshipTitanic wrote:So... Are pirates sending in their planets? Seems a bit quiet.

Can't say that I've noticed, no.

InnocentBystander wrote:Pirates live in the asteriod fields (or nebulas?) of systems, according to the rules they are absurdly difficult to locate; requring a ship to be observing the correct field while 5 ships dock there. Additionally eldar can move their pirate bases, making them even harder to locate

That is indeed an absurd rule, and I'd certainly not use it to replace the rulebook's rules.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2006-08-02 03:45pm

InnocentBystander wrote:Question - how do we take unclaimed worlds? Land some troops, or is showing up with a cruiser enough?

You win a battle, and then claim them, in the normal rules. I wouldn't write the rules that way, but at least it's balanced

What about us poor pirates, can we benefit from unclaimed worlds?

In a way: You've got super-sneaky forgeworld equivalent. That represents the resources you get from normal piracy. If you want to do something drastic, like invading a world, you'd probably have to become a 'major power' for that, which necessitates being obvious. If on the other hand, you want to smash and grab everything in a world, win a battle, and the rules let you do that, basically.

Oh, also, on the topic of pirate bases, how do people feel about allowing a space hulk as an orky pirate base?

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2006-08-02 04:18pm

NecronLord wrote:InnocentBystander wrote:
Question - how do we take unclaimed worlds? Land some troops, or is showing up with a cruiser enough?

You win a battle, and then claim them, in the normal rules. I wouldn't write the rules that way, but at least it's balanced

I though the rules required landing of troops (purchased as shipyard) via ships with transport capacity.

NecronLord wrote:Oh, also, on the topic of pirate bases, how do people feel about allowing a space hulk as an orky pirate base?

No way. From reading the rulebooks I got that Hulks are large, very difficult to control and more or less used as WAAAAAGGGGHH! ferries. The fluff even notes that a Hulk should be captured back at all costs, even if it requires a full chapter of Space Marines. Hulks aren't the sort of ships pirates would want. They need small, fast, agile ships. Give them bases like everyone else.
I'd say give ork players the option of being a pirate power, or a WAAAAGGGH power, which is 2000 points; and their first act is to grab a planet (with a hulk, perhaps?)

Post by **NecronLord** » 2006-08-02 05:56pm

InnocentBystander wrote:I though the rules required landing of troops (purchased as shipyard) via ships with transport capacity.

Those would be the horrifically complex additional rules. I'm talking about the basic rules.

No way. From reading the rulebooks I got that Hulks are large, very difficult to control and more or less used as WAAAAAGGGGHH! ferries.

Yah. That's my reaction too, but apparently there's some GW suggestion out there that makes out like it's a feisable choice.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2006-08-02 07:22pm

NecronLord wrote:
InnocentBystander wrote:I though the rules required landing of troops (purchased as shipyard) via ships with transport capacity.
Those would be the horrifically complex additional rules. I'm talking about the basic rules.

Oh... I thought were using those rules.

No way. From reading the rulebooks I got that Hulks are large, very difficult to control and more or less used as WAAAAAGGGGHH! ferries.
Yah. That's my reaction too, but apparently there's some GW suggestion out there that makes out like it's a feisable choice.

That is a dumb idea, according to the fluff orks can't even control a hulk in the warp, they just pile in and 'hopefully' end up in a populated system. Giving them full control over a hulk is breaking the fluff as it is.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2006-08-03 05:40am

InnocentBystander wrote:
NecronLord wrote:
InnocentBystander wrote:I though the rules required landing of troops (purchased as shipyard) via ships with transport capacity.
Those would be the horrifically complex additional rules. I'm talking about the basic rules.
Oh... I thought were using those rules.

Yeah, i thought we were playing the advanced rules Necron posted?

Prozac the Robert · Post by **Prozac the Robert** » 2006-08-03 08:03am

InnocentBystander wrote: That is a dumb idea, according to the fluff orks can't even control a hulk in the warp, they just pile in and 'hopefully' end up in a populated system. Giving them full control over a hulk is breaking the fluff as it is.

As a pirate base, the Orks wouldn't have any real control over it. It would sit in an asteroid field acting as a base with a load of ork weapons bolted on it, and with some of it turned into a shipyard. So it would have randomly ended up where it is, and the Orks would just be making use of it. If they completely ran out of people to fight, they'd presumeably move it out to the edge of the system, enter the warp and see where and when they next apear. It seems much more fluff compliant than using one as a full warship, which the Waaaagh! list allows.

Dark Hellion · Post by **Dark Hellion** » 2006-08-06 01:21am

Bump, so who do we yell at to get this shit started?

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2006-08-06 04:51am

I'm guessing when a few more Chaos people turn up. Unless there's a load of pirate players all gunning for the Imperials.

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » 2006-08-06 11:42am

If participation is still open, I'll take a Chaos fleet at Indus Prime. I'd need a day or two to put together a list.