Battlefield 3

[Losonti Tokash]

Or they could follow their own example from BF2 where they had 16, 32, and 64 player versions of each map. I almost feel like this game wasn't even made by DICE, because there's so many concepts that were better executed in their older games.

[CaptHawkeye]

Depends on how far back you're going in development. Battlefield 3 is totally better than Battlefield 2 and those disposable Modern Combat games. Battlefield 3 is ultimately an evolution of the direction DICE started taking with Bad Company, the problem it's sort of a step back from BC2 pretty cleanly because EA shit themselves over Modern Warfare 3 and put the development team on a ridiculous timetable.

[Losonti Tokash]

Don't misunderstand, I wasn't saying BF2 was totally greatest BF game evar. But things like the map sizes relative to population or even the unlock system were done better, I think. You wouldn't transplant it in its original form straight to 2011, but I kinda liked the idea of being able to choose what you were unlocking instead of it just being decided for you.

[defanatic]

A couple of the maps have higher and lower population versions, but it isn't consistent. Metro doesn't change at all, but Seine Crossing removes two of the points.

I have been way knife happy. That's been fun. 64 player Metro is spam medic to get XP. I actually rather liked the Rush version of that that was used in the beta, but it seems to be a rare server loadout.

I think part of it is people often remember how annoying things were on the release of each new Battlefield game. On release, I significantly prefer battlelog to the BC2 in game interface (which did not have oceana as a selectable region, and automatching was balls).

[Broken]

Just had a game last night that was awesome, but made me angry. Tooling around in an M-1 Abrams on the Firestorm map (desert one with the big oil refinery complex) when I roll into the enemy held Army Base we are attacking. Find 2 big tanks in there, but some pro World of Tanks honed driving and a few minutes later I have killed both T-90's and a few random foot soldiers, mostly by backing up over them. After crashing through the fence one last time to put some shelter between me and the RU base, I jump out of my tank and start repairing the barely functional machine. As I'm just starting to repair, one of my own team's support guys C4's me and my tank. When I did a "Dude, wtf?" in chat, he said something to effect of "you almost ran me over".

Upset, but moving on, later that same round I found him mortaring the enemy as I ran by. So I stopped, pulled out my sidearm, and headshot him execution-style . And that is one of the reasons I play on hardcore servers.

One more thing. Guided tank shells with a sniper's laser SOFLAM or even better the last MBT unlock, the CITV station is pure ownage. I have shot down 2 or 3 choppers and 1 jet with unguided main tank gun rounds overall. I can kill 3 or 4 choppers a round now with those guided shells and a helper. In one game, I think we convinced the enemy team to stop using choppers as we killed them so quick.

[Stark]

You play on hardcore servers so you can be a tough guy idiot? What a surprise.

Sadly the patch doesn't seem to have addressed the hilarious cheating, so my BF3 is still a coaster. Good thing there's quality chopping games to keep me busy.

[Broken]

Teamkills and friendly fire are a part of the game and I accept that. The thing with C4 is that is not a fire and forget or quick reaction item. This guy had to run up to my tank, drop the C4, back off to a safe distance, and then set it off. Which he considered justified because in my efforts to avoid being trapped by 2 enemy tanks I "almost" hit him in the narrow corridors of the base complex I was speeding around in. So if I'm on a 800 ticket Conquest public server with the TK punish/forgive system turned off, I may well get one back from a guy who was a dick to me first. I merely used my sidearm because it was an unintentionally amusing image given how mortar players crouch over when using it.

[Edward Yee]

Odd observation to myself: despite having taken days off from the game due to work, when I hopped back into the 64-player Metro Conquest meatgrinder on Normal, I was doing better than usual overall, somehow managed to get a rare-for-me positive KDR (22-10) in a match where I mainly covered a corner (on the side opposite the stairwell-corridor-of-explosions) of the closer-to-A ("rear") escalator as RU and just kept mowing down an attempted US push with the M249, for which I got accessory unlocks in the same match, and even unlocked my first-ever IRNV/weapon service star in a later match -- again for the M249.

No idea how I suddenly became a lot better at it than when I'd been playing more regularly.

[Stofsk]

Maybe you didn't, but got a server full of scrubs.

[Edward Yee]

I can believe that, but for even a few of them to consistently mass at the "rear" escalator is better than I usually see where the US team seems content to die at the stairwell or the "forward" escalator (facing the elevator pillar) and not threaten the other escalator at all, much less make a push to threaten/capture A.

EDIT: Then again, I have to admit (after thinking about it some more) that they're probably just grinding too.

[Stark]

Heaps of people can't be bothered capping because the only thing that matters long-term is kills, because unlocks are kill-based not points-based. People do what gets them cool shit, which is shooting people and not winning.

But really, saying 'I camped an access point with a machinegun and killed a lot of guys, what gives' makes you look like a fucking moron.

[Lagmonster]

Yesterday I discovered that the most lethal weapon is - the EOD bot. Nobody pays any attention to it unless you're rolling up the middle of the street, it's hard to spot, and takes more bullets to put down than I do. Plus, once you learn to nudge it up over ledges with a good running start, it's your own personal Rolling Crotchtoaster. Even better, when I roll it to enemy tanks, it goes inside them. It's basically immune to being rolled over. So you can drive one, clip through an enemy tank, and sit under the treads mosquito-ing it while the poor sap tries desperately to figure out why his tank is very slowly dying. And in Rush, it's like people don't know what the thing is FOR. I can roll it into a high-crossfire area, set the charge, then back it up and sit perfectly still. Here comes a guy to disarm - and, crotchtoast! Yes, pay no attention to the obvious murderbot that is sitting immobile in the centre of the room. Clearly it is no threat, nor can it rearm stations if you disarm them.

[Lancer]

I can believe that, but for even a few of them to consistently mass at the "rear" escalator is better than I usually see where the US team seems content to die at the stairwell or the "forward" escalator (facing the elevator pillar) and not threaten the other escalator at all, much less make a push to threaten/capture A.

EDIT: Then again, I have to admit (after thinking about it some more) that they're probably just grinding too.

The rear escalator is even more of a killbox for the US forces, as they can be fired upon from behind the opening with impunity, whereas with the front escalator and stairs, a well-timed push with grenades and rockets can create an opening you can slip through.

[Stark]

Yesterday I discovered that the most lethal weapon is - the EOD bot. Nobody pays any attention to it unless you're rolling up the middle of the street, it's hard to spot, and takes more bullets to put down than I do. Plus, once you learn to nudge it up over ledges with a good running start, it's your own personal Rolling Crotchtoaster. Even better, when I roll it to enemy tanks, it goes inside them. It's basically immune to being rolled over. So you can drive one, clip through an enemy tank, and sit under the treads mosquito-ing it while the poor sap tries desperately to figure out why his tank is very slowly dying. And in Rush, it's like people don't know what the thing is FOR. I can roll it into a high-crossfire area, set the charge, then back it up and sit perfectly still. Here comes a guy to disarm - and, crotchtoast! Yes, pay no attention to the obvious murderbot that is sitting immobile in the centre of the room. Clearly it is no threat, nor can it rearm stations if you disarm them.

Both the drones have a ludicrous amount of hitpoints and are way too physcially small. The best part about clipping into a tank is it freaks them out so much they are likely to drive off ledges/over mines/face the wrong way and die anyway.

[Marko Dash]

with a full squad you can basically have an invincible tank, two man the tank while the other two sit back at base. the two at the base have their EOD bots tucked up underneath the tank and they can repair it faster than most damage. it'll still die under heavy fire but the two little bots are much more resilient than a few guys would be, and being under the tank they are safe from splash damage.

[Agent Fisher]

Mobile AA is bullshit. That is all.

[Stark]

Are you referring to the maps that use it, the maps that don't, the belt time, the accuracy, the effectiveness vs heavy armour, or some other attribute?

I mean if I get 80-kill streaks with it, it can't be all bad. Right? :V

[CaptHawkeye]

I just don't understand why it has more armor than a fucking tank.

[Agent Fisher]

Cause a top down guided missile shot, plus a Javelin just sets the thing on fire, and yet it'll shred my freaking little bird like so much paper.


Mainly I hate when it's got a good driver with a squad that supports it with SA-18s and repair tools. Shreds everything in the air, and shoots the shit out of an Amtrac

[Lagmonster]

The mobile AA actually drove me into embarrasingly obsessive stalker revenge gameplay behaviour in one match. After watching my team get massacred by one guy who would sneak up into the mountains of Kharg Island with an AA tank and snipe the whole map, I basically made it my purpose in the match to keep the AA tank unavailable so everybody else could press forward.

Because standing up and slamming rockets into it never worked, I had to take tank hunting from casual to what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-this-guy levels. I drove EOD bots into it and harried it all over the map. I crawled through grass and planted C4 on it. I scouted his routes and left mines in the dirt. I stalked the goddamn thing with a sniper rifle and pegged the guy whenever he climbed out to do repairs. It got bad to the point of him basically asking me what the fuck I had against him, but he still devastated the entire opposing team and slaughtered me a half-dozen times for each one that I nailed him.

I am now the goddamn king of tank hunters, but I had to give up my dignity.

[Alyeska]

Yesterday I discovered that the most lethal weapon is - the EOD bot. Nobody pays any attention to it unless you're rolling up the middle of the street, it's hard to spot, and takes more bullets to put down than I do. Plus, once you learn to nudge it up over ledges with a good running start, it's your own personal Rolling Crotchtoaster. Even better, when I roll it to enemy tanks, it goes inside them. It's basically immune to being rolled over. So you can drive one, clip through an enemy tank, and sit under the treads mosquito-ing it while the poor sap tries desperately to figure out why his tank is very slowly dying. And in Rush, it's like people don't know what the thing is FOR. I can roll it into a high-crossfire area, set the charge, then back it up and sit perfectly still. Here comes a guy to disarm - and, crotchtoast! Yes, pay no attention to the obvious murderbot that is sitting immobile in the centre of the room. Clearly it is no threat, nor can it rearm stations if you disarm them.

Lag, that post made my day. Thats the funniest shit I've seen in a while. I will definitely give the murderbot a test.

[Lagmonster]

Lag, that post made my day. Thats the funniest shit I've seen in a while. I will definitely give the murderbot a test.

Fun trick: If you're stuck on Damavand, run the bot up the darkness of the mine to the other end. Then turn it around and drive it back towards you via one of the two side tunnels. You'll probably end up sneaking up on at horde of enemy players who are all conveniently facing in the opposite direction. Who can then be crotchtoasted.

[Stark]

I see people trying that all the time; it appears to fail most of the time, probably because you're always close enough to someone to be heard. The robot is stupidly tough, but once its spotted its domed.

Its just lame that it can't be run over by vehicles. Biggest of a -worthy game.

[Broken]

Did they remove the ability to stick C4 to the EOD bots? If not, screw suicide-bomb jeeps; it's robo-bomb time!

[Alyeska]

EA is trying very hard to kill Origin. After they tied all of their accounts together including forum accounts, forum bans are translating across every account. You get banned from the forum and your Origin account is terminated.

But it gets better. Other people can get you banned. They are using an auto ban filter on their forums. And it is very poorly designed. You can get someone else banned from Origin by simply going "Fuck Person1234". The filter will see the swear word and attach it to the name right next to it. Instant system wide ban.

http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/e ... 436?page=1

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/12 ... e-edition/

One of our clan was banned for having an offensive avatar. His Avatar was simply Captain Caveman. Now every EA account was frozen and he got an email saying his profile would be outright deleted shortly.