STGOD 4 OOC Thread

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-05-28 09:23pm

I'd post my flag if I could get it hosted.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2004-05-28 09:24pm

I hosted Thirdfain's first flag, I can host yours.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-05-28 10:20pm

Hey, Aly, I thought you only got so far as Hitler at Nuremberg? How are you getting all of this stuff on obscure comedic figures from the 20th century?

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-05-28 10:23pm

We have an embassy in the UP and information gets back home rather quickly

Ut has been roughly 2 weeks in game between the dinner theater and the treaty signing

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-05-28 10:29pm

BTW, my nation's beloved flag.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-05-28 10:31pm

The Black Alliance, of course, used the Jolly Roger.

The Overseer has no flag or insignia.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2004-05-28 10:35pm

SirNitram wrote:The Overseer has no flag or insignia.

Oh, but I beg to differ...

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-05-28 10:46pm

Hotfoot wrote:
SirNitram wrote:The Overseer has no flag or insignia.
Oh, but I beg to differ...
http://www.jhochwald.de/windxxf/bilder/drop.jpg

Your inferior bloatware does not intimidate the Overseer!

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-05-28 10:48pm

Hotfoot wrote:
SirNitram wrote:The Overseer has no flag or insignia.
Oh, but I beg to differ...
http://www.jhochwald.de/windxxf/bilder/drop.jpg

Nitram, is it to late to surrender unconditionally now?

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-05-29 01:58am

Oi! we gonna get on with this brutal ground action, Sharkbait? I'm itching for some battle.

speaker-to-trolls · Post by **speaker-to-trolls** » 2004-05-29 02:57am

Hey, does anyone know where frigidmagi's gone?.
Nice flags, by the way.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-05-29 12:11pm

Frigidmagi was on last night rather late...

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-05-29 01:43pm

Not to sound touchy, but have we discussed enough of Mel Brook's socio-cultural influence on the 20th century?
it gets a bit out of hand...

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2004-05-29 03:56pm

Revenge...hahahaha, that's a good one. The big bad dark elf is going to get revenge against the mean nasty GCN reporter he killed.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-05-29 04:42pm

He is allowed to plot and scheme... it isnt as if he has anything better to do with his time.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-05-29 10:58pm

A hundred and fifty frigates! No fucking way you turned those out three to four months! Those might as well be skeets if you can turn them out that quickly and in those kind of numbers!

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-05-29 11:09pm

It's not that unreasonable, they are just frigates, light weapons, point defense, and some have a single torpedo tube. It'd guess 100-250m long ships.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-05-29 11:10pm

Mmmm. Going to be a few years before I can re-enter the playing field, with that being the response to mere frigates.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-05-29 11:10pm

I ran this by Pablo. This is a 30% increase in my fleet size and strength, with vessels just as good as my original fleet vessels. Considering the massive industrial complex I've built, fed by the plunder of two dozen systems, aquired, might I add, with little effort by other to stop me, and the locustlike nature of my race, it should hardly be shocking.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-05-29 11:13pm

Thirdfain wrote:I ran this by Pablo. This is a 30% increase in my fleet size and strength, with vessels just as good as my original fleet vessels. Considering the massive industrial complex I've built, fed by the plunder of two dozen systems, aquired, might I add, with little effort by other to stop me, and the locustlike nature of my race, it should hardly be shocking.

The point I'm trying make is it seems to me that they're a largely disposable, extreme light weight. Because I know must people (even those with major industrial bases) only added a few dozen ships.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-05-29 11:18pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:I ran this by Pablo. This is a 30% increase in my fleet size and strength, with vessels just as good as my original fleet vessels. Considering the massive industrial complex I've built, fed by the plunder of two dozen systems, aquired, might I add, with little effort by other to stop me, and the locustlike nature of my race, it should hardly be shocking.
The point I'm trying make is it seems to me that they're a largely disposable, extreme light weight. Because I know must people (even those with major industrial bases) only added a few dozen ships.

How many are on war footing?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-05-29 11:22pm

SirNitram wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:I ran this by Pablo. This is a 30% increase in my fleet size and strength, with vessels just as good as my original fleet vessels. Considering the massive industrial complex I've built, fed by the plunder of two dozen systems, aquired, might I add, with little effort by other to stop me, and the locustlike nature of my race, it should hardly be shocking.
The point I'm trying make is it seems to me that they're a largely disposable, extreme light weight. Because I know must people (even those with major industrial bases) only added a few dozen ships.
How many are on war footing?

I believe almost all of them are. And that doesn't change the fact that a thirty percent increase of hulls in three months (and using a signficant part of it from conquered territory) is a bit unrealistic if they're supposed to be a really signficant combatant. I can buy it is they're disposable tin can (as mass produced warships usually are) but not really otherwise.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-05-29 11:26pm

SirNitram wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:I ran this by Pablo. This is a 30% increase in my fleet size and strength, with vessels just as good as my original fleet vessels. Considering the massive industrial complex I've built, fed by the plunder of two dozen systems, aquired, might I add, with little effort by other to stop me, and the locustlike nature of my race, it should hardly be shocking.
The point I'm trying make is it seems to me that they're a largely disposable, extreme light weight. Because I know must people (even those with major industrial bases) only added a few dozen ships.
How many are on war footing?

::raises hand::

I'm not creating ships though.

The problem I have with these massive outpouring of ships is that where are you training the crews needed to man these ships so quickly, without a loss of quality?

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2004-05-29 11:29pm

SirNitram wrote:How many are on war footing?

*raises hand*

Though I'm going to increase the numbers my yards put out gradually. I'm operating under the assumption that moving to war footing takes a bit of time, unless you really rush things, which can lead to some undesirable results.

However, if the Ousters have only been building these 150 frigates, hey. I myself will have 50 new ships coming off the lines very shortly, 45 escorts of various types and 5 cruiser scale ships, with a battleship about halfway done at the moment.

However, if he's been building cruiser and capital scale ships as well, I'm going to have to ramp up my own ship production. I obviously have the shipyards, and I have plenty of natural resources to draw from.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-05-29 11:38pm

The problem I have with these massive outpouring of ships is that where are you training the crews needed to man these ships so quickly, without a loss of quality?

We're a spacefaring race, with large civilian spacer populations. Additionally, you'll note that the new fleet is being rotated back towards Elysium for maneuvers; they aren't experienced as the crews on my original three War Clusters. these guys aren't being sent to the front lines.

The point I'm trying make is it seems to me that they're a largely disposable, extreme light weight. Because I know must people (even those with major industrial bases) only added a few dozen ships.

Yup. And they aren't ruthlessly exploiting the resources of four dozen systems. First off I'll point out that all the light vessels (cruisers and escorts) are being built back in my home systems, which have industry as good as any else's, backed up by a simply massive workforce and resource base.

And that doesn't change the fact that a thirty percent increase of hulls in three months (and using a signficant part of it from conquered territory)

It hardly matters whether the territory is conquered or otherwise; it's not like I'm using local labor to tear up their asteroid belts or uninhabited planets.

is a bit unrealistic if they're supposed to be a really signficant combatant. I can buy it is they're disposable tin can (as mass produced warships usually are) but not really otherwise.

The nature of my power is quite well known- locusts. No one has made credible efforts to stop me, despite a number of glaring vulnerabilities (some of which we've discussed,) and now the consequences of 140 pages of complacency and hand wringing are showing up.

The next run of construction, which will finish in another 140 pages of STGOD, will add another 2 War Clusters, and 140 pages after that, anotehr 3.