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Re: Mass Effect 2

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Oh, that makes a lot more sense!
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http://au.xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/1 ... hg6m6hneak

Ign video review:

Nobody is challenging your assertion that the broad arc of the game will remain consistent. Bioware's patented "Introduction -> Three areas to complete in any order -> Ending" RPG storyline will doubtless make its appearance once more.

However, decisions you make in game will effect the path you take to get there.
Yes, you'll get minor plot divergences. But nothing that will in any way the story in a fashion except bullet points, like "oh, Wrex died" or "the Rachni queen lived". These will at best pay off in minor ways. Wrex living sees him become the warlord of his whole planet, except he doesn't play any major role in the story as a whole. He still doesn't send an army of Krogan to help secure human colonies or anything like that. You still have largely the same questing on Tuchanka, and you still recruit the same character.

It reminds me of those SciFi time travel plots where you can change the past, but the timeline always rubber bands back and largely the same events will happen anyway.
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Ghetto Edit:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/x06-g ... 9?type=flv

Bwahahaha!

I just found this old ME trailer. It looked so shit in 2006.
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At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and said: 'What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise.

The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, 'What is the tortoise standing on?'

'You're very clever, young man, very clever,' said the old lady. 'But it's turtles all the way down.'
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adam_grif wrote:In video-game review land, 7 / 10 is "not worth your time", 7.5-8.0 is Average score, anything above 9.0 means "creme of the crop". So far the average for ME is 94%. It will change as more reviews come out, of course.
Actually, it tends to be 7 is "They didn't bribe us, but we don't want to burn bridges." 8-10 is standard press-run for high-profile games.

5-6 tends to be smaller or Indy Dev games that the reviewer just didn't like. (Several of my favorite games got panned by reviewers, mostly on charges that amount to "I don't understand or like this genre, so screw this game.")

1-4's, if they ever appear, tend to signal real flaws with a game.

Myself, if I'm in doubt about a game, I usually wait until a game has a few reviews on GFAQs. Looking for the 7s tends to get the most even handed coverage. The plethora of 10s are either plants or rabid fans.
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Er what? Although 5/10 is "supposed" to be "average", it never works out like that. It's approximately the same as the grading you get in grade school, where 50% is "just barely acceptable/pass" instead of "average", and 90+ is "A". I agree high profile games rarely go below the 7 range, but I'd say it's as much to do with bribing as it is to do with generally higher production values.
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At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and said: 'What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise.

The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, 'What is the tortoise standing on?'

'You're very clever, young man, very clever,' said the old lady. 'But it's turtles all the way down.'
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The hilarious part is that the devs insist it's not an ammo mechanic in all of the interviews. When they first announced it, I thought it was a hybrid - like you could optionally eject a heatsink, or you could just wait to cool down. But no, there is no passive cooling at all, you HAVE to eject heatsinks. Ammo in everything but name.

I wonder how they're going to explain this in the canon. Did the whole galaxy undergo a sudden and total doctrinal change? Maybe there was like a massive, universal failure on all guns and they had to all be replaced or something...
Yeah it's really annoying - I really have to wonder at the logic of it - IIRC they were talking about how they wanted to make the game more like an FPS, I guess they thought you can't have an FPS unless you have reloading? :roll:
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They claim that not having limited ammunition meant they couldn't create tension in combat scenes, and that overheating wasn't good it was frustrating.

Tbh I'd love a hybrid system, with longer cool times (50% longer than ME style ones, say), with optional heat sink ejects for "oh shit" moments.
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At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and said: 'What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise.

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'You're very clever, young man, very clever,' said the old lady. 'But it's turtles all the way down.'
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I'm playing through ME1 again in order to have a character ready for ME2, and I have to ask...how do you trigger the Spacer quest to contact your mother? I'm almost to Virmire so I may have already missed it, but I can't figure out how to trigger that particular quest.
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Jaevric wrote:I'm playing through ME1 again in order to have a character ready for ME2, and I have to ask...how do you trigger the Spacer quest to contact your mother? I'm almost to Virmire so I may have already missed it, but I can't figure out how to trigger that particular quest.
Talk to the ex-military bum in the long corridor leading from the wards to the presidium (down the steps between the tower and the embassies).
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Since no one ever travels through that corridor unless it's their first time exploring the Citadel or you're looking for Keepers or doing the signal tracing quest, it's no wonder most people don't ever find the Spacer quest.

Shit I didn't know about it until three playthroughs in with my Spacer Shepard.
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Starglider wrote:Talk to the ex-military bum in the long corridor leading from the wards to the presidium (down the steps between the tower and the embassies).
Thanks. Trying to hit everything possible on this playthrough.
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DPDarkPrimus wrote:Since no one ever travels through that corridor unless it's their first time exploring the Citadel or you're looking for Keepers or doing the signal tracing quest, it's no wonder most people don't ever find the Spacer quest.

Shit I didn't know about it until three playthroughs in with my Spacer Shepard.
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So, it's out in the US right now.

People are reporting that the Cerberus Network Cards that come with it (which gets you your free DLC) has instructions that will doom you if you follow them. It tells you to put info into EA.com, then when you try to DL it on your XBOX it will tell you that your code has already been used.

And all of the Preorder armors are "full sets", and you can't take your helmet off with any of them. So you're forced to either not use it, or not be able to see your face in cutscenes or gameplay. Great job Bioware.
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adam_grif wrote:So, it's out in the US right now.

People are reporting that the Cerberus Network Cards that come with it (which gets you your free DLC) has instructions that will doom you if you follow them. It tells you to put info into EA.com, then when you try to DL it on your XBOX it will tell you that your code has already been used.

And all of the Preorder armors are "full sets", and you can't take your helmet off with any of them. So you're forced to either not use it, or not be able to see your face in cutscenes or gameplay. Great job Bioware.
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I almost did that, but then I thought that Microsoft might start banning XBL accounts that took advantage of the glitch so I didn't.

I regret it now.
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Apparently it's not the first time it's happened. And they let the people keep it then.

Although, even if it wasn't, the worst I can honestly see them doing is invalidating any DLC on the account between X & Y dates. After all, how many angry letters do you think they'd recieve claiming to be honest customers who saw an epic deal on DLC for their next hot title? :P

Especially since the fault is entirely on their end.
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Indeed, past experience has shown that a goof-up like this is overlooked - you can't take it away early because people may have gotten a copy early, and a retailer breaking street date is the retailer's problem, not the consumer.
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Haha yeah, I mentioned that a few posts back. Looks like I'm on page one of that thread Kotaku links too, also.
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At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and said: 'What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise.

The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, 'What is the tortoise standing on?'

'You're very clever, young man, very clever,' said the old lady. 'But it's turtles all the way down.'
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"Hey you know that helmet toggle feature from Mass Effect 1 was great wasnt it? Let you be in control of seeing your character's face without compromising your stats or anything."
"You're right, since it worked so well let's get rid of it entirely!"

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The response on the bioware forums is just hilarious. The "good reasons" (actually reason, and that one is both vague and nonsensical) being offered by BW are being (rightfully) rejected out of hand, with some choice posts for delicious hilarity-by-acid-nerdrage-remarks.
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Stark wrote:If there are full-face helmets does it at least make you sound different? :)
Yeah it does, sounds like your talking through a gas mask, sort of.
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No, it's just part of the armor.

You either get the full set armor bonus, or you can't use it, at all.

This only applies for the Bonus armors as far as I know, the Standard, Modular "N7 Armor" has no helmet by default, and you can put ones on as you please.

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This is what you start looking like if you're a renegade.

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The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, 'What is the tortoise standing on?'

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That looks cool, but I don't understand the reasoning. Further, does your being a mega renegade at the end of ME1 affect your look at the start of 2?

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Fine, I'll tread softly, but there isn't a "good reason" for this. There's probably a "lazy reason" and a "stupid reason" but I doubt there are any "good" ones.

Go down to the animators and tell them that their work isn't as important as the guy who made the neat mask for the exclusive conent.

So what was the good reason? I'm assuming it was done to save time...so your definition of "good" needs work.
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