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Looks like we're in the same thread ;)

And no, the Shepinator face only happens to you if you're renegade in Mass 2 decisions. Their in game excuse is that your wounds won't heal properly if you're being renegade because apparently evil makes wounds heal slower. Or something.

At some point you can get very expensive elective surgery to remove it regardless of your alignment.
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adam_grif wrote:Looks like we're in the same thread ;)
I'm not posting ATM. Frankly, due to my problems with Dragon Age I'm scared to death that when I install ME2 tomorrow the damn disc won't authenticate and I'll be fucked.
And no, the Shepinator face only happens to you if you're renegade in Mass 2 decisions. Their in game excuse is that your wounds won't heal properly if you're being renegade because apparently evil makes wounds heal slower. Or something.
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Ohhhh .... kaaaaayy ......?
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Yeah. They say something about how being renegade causes you to have more stress and negative emotions, and the implants react badly with them, causing wounds to re-open.

And stuff.

Who knows, maybe in addition to an evil-detector they can build an awesomeness-detector next. You know, while they're finding ways to objectively measure abstract concepts.
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Right so basically Renegade is now Sith Lord. Great.
One of the things I liked about Renegade in ME1 was that it wasn't evil, it was just a more harsh, ruthless and strictly business approach to things.
And now.. this? Whatever.
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Yep.

I suggested simply releasing an additional version of each special armor minus the helmet, and letting people who already have them download the new version / swap between the armors based on whether they wanted the helmet or not. One of the producers, Jesse Houston, says he's looking into it as a solution.

Great success.
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Every dev post is the old weaselly-dev ass-covering rhetoric...

"We couldn't because we didn't!"


It's a LOT like the stop back the "Create a Soul" mode of Soul Caliber took between 3 & 4. By tying needless stats to the armor pieces, they ended up making it much more restrictive. That's literally what their entire excuse for removing helmet toggle amounts to.

But eh... they have their money, I sincerely doubt much will come of this in the end...
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I've never seen a more remarkable circlejerk of a thread before. I don't know which is more pathetic; all the complaining and wankery, or the fact that half of you seemed to have bought the game regardless of said complaining and wankery.
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open_sketchbook wrote:I've never seen a more remarkable circlejerk of a thread before. I don't know which is more pathetic; all the complaining and wankery, or the fact that half of you seemed to have bought the game regardless of said complaining and wankery.
Yes yes, it's just terrible that people are expressing less than 100% orgasmic opinions about a game they're all still very much interested in playing - just remember - you aren't allowed to point out a bad design decision if you buy a game. Nope, even if its a relatively minor problem, you must never mention it. That's The Law.
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I have absolutely no problem with nitpicking, but they are essentially going on and on about everything they hate about Bioware and Mass Effect while also playing the game at the same time. The hypocrisy is staggering, and the thread has basically been three or so people ranting on everything that gives them a rage boner... for sixteen pages.
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Gramzamber wrote:Right so basically Renegade is now Sith Lord. Great.
Yeah, that look was stupid in KOTOR already (it's so hilarious because no Sith Lord in the movies ever looked like that), but with no dark side involved it's even dumber :D
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open_sketchbook wrote:I have absolutely no problem with nitpicking, but they are essentially going on and on about everything they hate about Bioware and Mass Effect while also playing the game at the same time. The hypocrisy is staggering, and the thread has basically been three or so people ranting on everything that gives them a rage boner... for sixteen pages.
Hey dumbass, half of us haven't even played the damn game. We're just observing features we think are pretty dumb and saying so.
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open_sketchbook wrote:I have absolutely no problem with nitpicking, but they are essentially going on and on about everything they hate about Bioware and Mass Effect while also playing the game at the same time. The hypocrisy is staggering, and the thread has basically been three or so people ranting on everything that gives them a rage boner... for sixteen pages.
Yeah it's like when people complain about their football team and yet still support that team! Such hypocrisy!

The ability to recognise flaws doesn't detract from enjoyment. Do you think Hav doesn't see Bioware's creatively bankrupt 'make the same game for ten years' process? Don't be ridiculous. He likes the game anyway.

In other news can anyone confirm Xon's load time commentary in the other thread? ME1's load times were bad (for no reason) but it sounds like time-wise ME2's are worse.
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I just loaded from one of the Wards to the Presidium and it took maybe 10 seconds on the 360.
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I'm going to pick up the game in a few minutes. First on my To Do list is "Install the game to hard drive". That should speed 360 load times. I'd get it on PC, except I had the first one on 360, and so I'm kind of shoehorned into the console for the whole series now.
I have absolutely no problem with nitpicking, but they are essentially going on and on about everything they hate about Bioware and Mass Effect while also playing the game at the same time. The hypocrisy is staggering, and the thread has basically been three or so people ranting on everything that gives them a rage boner... for sixteen pages.
If we weren't complaining about things we didn't like it wouldn't be SD.net. We just don't comment on the things we do like, generally speaking, because "wow it's great" doesn't make for interesting, informative or funny posts.
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There is a research upgrade you can get so your scars will heal over time regardless of Paragon or Renegade points, but yeah it's kind of an arbitrary decision by Bioware that reeks of "we want people to know if they are being a good guy or a bad ass without having to look at meters".
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My x-box just ate my disk...

It's been acting up for a while now. And it's started randomly resetting... Final straw seems to have been when I picked up my controller from the top of the console, got shocked, and my hand slammed the controller back onto the console...

Reset it, and presumably caused it to eat the disk...

Damn thing's been shocking for a while... fairly often on the eject button... Seemed to solve it somewhat when I moved it from the shelf it was on (which it would heat up the space there in half an hour...) to the top of a speaker. (So all it's vent holes were fully exposed.)

At least I can take the disk back to Best Buy and claim I got it that way... The 360's past warranty and was already a replacement... Probably replace it with a Elite in a few months.
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DPDarkPrimus wrote:There is a research upgrade you can get so your scars will heal over time regardless of Paragon or Renegade points, but yeah it's kind of an arbitrary decision by Bioware that reeks of "we want people to know if they are being a good guy or a bad ass without having to look at meters".
It does look cool, though, even if it makes no firggin' sense and further destroys any claims that their morality system is rad and radically different from every other one :D

Any word on the whole "Actions will have consequences now! For realz this time!" claim?
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PeZook wrote:
It does look cool, though, even if it makes no firggin' sense and further destroys any claims that their morality system is rad and radically different from every other one :D

Any word on the whole "Actions will have consequences now! For realz this time!" claim?
Well some of the things I've run into (Tuchanka) contain results from my previous game, made things easier for me I assume.

Stark will also be happy to know that he was right in part about the Protheans/Reapers:
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The Prothean's aren't gone, technically. They were "re-purposed" by the Reapers into Collectors, or by the Collectors into more Collectors. The scene wasn't too clear.
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Cpl Kendall wrote:Stark will also be happy to know that he was right in part about the Protheans/Reapers:
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The Prothean's aren't gone, technically. They were "re-purposed" by the Reapers into Collectors, or by the Collectors into more Collectors. The scene wasn't too clear.
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The Collectors are a colony of Prothean's who where converted into organic remote controlled drones by the Reaper Harbinger. Harbinger was likely created from the Protheans like that unfinished human reaper was created out of abducted humans. You can actually see the Reaper Harbinger for less than a second if you destroy the Collectors base.
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Ahh! That makes more sense.
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Cpl Kendall wrote:Ahh! That makes more sense.
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Mind you, the Protheans originally looked nothing like what the Collectors do now. The gist I got from it was that the collectors are literally that, a collected amalgam of all the Reaper'd civilizations that came before. Evidence from ME1 indicates that Protheans were tall, slender humanoids with long fingers and limbs, and elongated heads. (statues on Ilos, freezeframes of Prothean Beacon vision.)
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