[STGOD] Primary Story Thread

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-05-15 09:51pm

The delegation from the New Roman Empire would like to validate the Floater statement concerning the Black Alice. The ship did stand down its weapons before being fired upon; however, Floater vessels also repeatedly refused to vacate the area.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-15 09:56pm

People of Zarathrustra, and the civilized galaxy! look what the Kokand Empire has revealed about itself, in it's own propaganda.

They ignored all of them and where destroyed. It was a fitting fate for these war mongering people who rejected normal society and now spend there time in deep space creating a new super race. You are fools to follow them.

Racism- long thought dead, a shadow of it's former self, lives again, in the twisted, xenophobic minds of the Kokand. They appear to have a problem with the Unbound, due to differences in our appearance and the lifestyle choices we have made. Who knows who will next face their ire? the Fenari? remember, you are, like us, abhuman- And you live a life sharply different from that of the Imperials. Or perhaps the Lost, who ply the spaceways, in a manner which is opposite to what the Kokand consider "normal?" Or perhaps even the Soirehtyiaz- They too live what the Kokand would see as not "normal."

It is obvious that the Kokand Empire has problems, problems which incited them to open fire on a Krytosian vessel, problems which allow them to ignore their moral compass and open fire on a warhsip which ahs stood down!

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-05-15 09:57pm

HemlockGrey wrote:The delegation from the New Roman Empire would like to validate the Floater statement concerning the Black Alice. The ship did stand down its weapons before being fired upon; however, Floater vessels also repeatedly refused to vacate the area.

They also then brought a multi capital unit task force into the system. That alone, ignoring all else represents a declaration of war and was treated as such.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-05-15 10:01pm

They also then brought a multi capital unit task force into the system. That alone, ignoring all else represents a declaration of war and was treated as such.

The Floater vessels agreed to stand down and allow mediation. The record clearly shows that you fired first.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-05-15 10:04pm

HemlockGrey wrote: The scans the Bona Cena obtained do not show the task force dropping into the system until after the Black Alice had been fired upon.

All valid recordings show the vessel being fired on after the Floater fleet arrived. I suggest you check your files. Numerous vessels and news crews from most every star nation can confirm this fact.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-15 10:04pm

They also then brought a multi capital unit task force into the system. That alone, ignoring all else represents a declaration of war and was treated as such.

NBA warhips, after opening fire on one of our ally's vessel and proceeding to bring in powerful reinforcements, violated the very invitation they had sent out to us all. The Krytos only had one capital unit in-system, and the lone Floater warship present was a Free vessel, and a lighter craft at that. We were violating no rules. When the NBA broke their own agreement, threatening the expo and it's priceless technology, and over a hundred Xanadar nationals, we acted to protect our people and our interests in system. The situation was on it's way to being defused, when Kokand commanders, blinded by their racism and bloodlust, opened fire on an VESSEL WHICH WAS STANDING DOWN, WITH ALL TARGETTING DEACTIVATED.

This action is brutal to a fault.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-05-15 10:06pm

OU Central Command:

"It turns out that our destroyers were close enough to see the entire battle rather well. It seems that the Floater vessel did power down their weaponry, roughly 30 seconds after being fired upon. The salvo was enough to destroy the vessel without any systems to intecept the missile swarm. After that, the Floater invasion fleet fired back, and was subsequently destroyed. The destroyers are out looking for survivors to rescue right now. It's not projected to be likely however."

With that, the captain finished his report.

"We better have our diplomatic corps send out a copy of our sensor readings to everyone. Why do you think they did this?"

"That is the million dollar question, sir."

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-15 10:07pm

All valid recordings show the vessel being fired on after the Floater fleet arrived. I suggest you check your files. Numerous vessels and news crews from most every star nation can confirm this fact.

True, you opened fire after the Fleet had arrived. You also opened fire after the commodore of that fleet, a Bondman who could act as a spokesperson for the Floater Republics (Unlike the freewoman captain of the "Black Alice," who could not, and was acting in the interests of her personelle on planet) had ordered that all floater warships stand down!

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-05-15 10:09pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:The delegation from the New Roman Empire would like to validate the Floater statement concerning the Black Alice. The ship did stand down its weapons before being fired upon; however, Floater vessels also repeatedly refused to vacate the area.
They also then brought a multi capital unit task force into the system. That alone, ignoring all else represents a declaration of war and was treated as such.

The Kokand empire firing on a ship that has powered down weapons also constitutes an act of war.

However, last time I checked, putting out a call for assistance when attacked is not an act of war, especially when the vessel has powered down weapons. And if the Floater fleet ordered the Black Alice to stand down, you have no justification for war.

That is all we have to say in the matter. We will now be leaving as per your request. We do not wish this to come to war, but we will not shrink from it.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-05-15 10:09pm

Thirdfain wrote:
NBA warhips, after opening fire on one of our ally's vessel and proceeding to bring in powerful reinforcements, violated the very invitation they had sent out to us all. The Krytos only had one capital unit in-system, and the lone Floater warship present was a Free vessel, and a lighter craft at that. We were violating no rules. When the NBA broke their own agreement, threatening the expo and it's priceless technology, and over a hundred Xanadar nationals, we acted to protect our people and our interests in system. The situation was on it's way to being defused, when Kokand commanders, blinded by their racism and bloodlust, opened fire on an VESSEL WHICH WAS STANDING DOWN, WITH ALL TARGETTING DEACTIVATED.

This action is brutal to a fault.

And what parts of this agreement did Kokand violate? None in fact, and in any case the system remains sovereign Kokand space subject to our laws. A fact the floaters have proven they cannot respect by bring in a large fleet. You will however note the agreement concerning this event required that all explosions over one thousand tons be pre arranged and only then be conducted in sealed boreholes. A unscheduled nine gigaton impact on the surface with global effects is not that. Your vessel was a guest in our space and failed to comply with orders. Its fate and that of your fleet and its decision to jump into Kokand space where of there own making.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-05-15 10:14pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:The delegation from the New Roman Empire would like to validate the Floater statement concerning the Black Alice. The ship did stand down its weapons before being fired upon; however, Floater vessels also repeatedly refused to vacate the area.
They also then brought a multi capital unit task force into the system. That alone, ignoring all else represents a declaration of war and was treated as such.
The Kokand empire firing on a ship that has powered down weapons also constitutes an act of war.

War had already been declared at that point by the arrival of a Floater feel in sovereign Kokand space. We engaged the target of an enemy. And a target, which had been given the chance to leave previously. Making a call is not an act of war. Bringing a fleet into sovereign space without permission is. It is quite simple.

Kokand as yet has no quarrel with the DE. We suggest you stand clear of the conflict, we wish not to change that fact but are quite willing.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-15 10:16pm

And what parts of this agreement did Kokand violate? None in fact, and in any case the system remains sovereign Kokand space subject to our laws.

The Free Floater Republics would agree with you, except for the fact you were not the only one moving fleets into the system: A large fleet of PIR warships were also present, in CLEAR violation of the invitation's terms! The expo was a chance to meet for peaceful trade of technology. Why did you see it necessary to bring in huge warfleets?

The captain of the "Black Alice" was acting with the safety of the Floater delegates on her mind, but she also saw the potential danger of the large fleets you brought in-system, from your allies, in violation of the invitation. These forces could have easily seized the expo, and the military technology on display there.

You will however note the agreement concerning this event required that all explosions over one thousand tons be pre arranged and only then be conducted in sealed boreholes. A unscheduled nine gigaton impact on the surface with global effects is not that.

Reports from the Krytos empire show that their demonstration was not only pre-arranged, but sanctioned by the Kokand Empire!

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-05-15 10:17pm

Thirdfain wrote:
All valid recordings show the vessel being fired on after the Floater fleet arrived. I suggest you check your files. Numerous vessels and news crews from most every star nation can confirm this fact.
True, you opened fire after the Fleet had arrived. You also opened fire after the commodore of that fleet, a Bondman who could act as a spokesperson for the Floater Republics (Unlike the freewoman captain of the "Black Alice," who could not, and was acting in the interests of her personelle on planet) had ordered that all floater warships stand down!

And that changes their presence in the system how? Not at all. If you wished merely to have help close at hand you might have stopped at the edge of our sovereign space. Instead you jumped to the edge of the interdiction field and no doubt would have come to orbit if that had not stop you. Your destruction was of your own making.

Four warnings and a review of standing international law each could have saved your fleet.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-05-15 10:19pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:A unscheduled nine gigaton impact on the surface with global effects is not that.

The Pan-Slavic Republic agrees. Technically speaking, the PSR would also be within its rights to declare war on the Krytos, but does not because of the political ramifications. The actions of the Krytos and Floater ships were indisputably acts of war, and the destruction of said vessels was Kokand's only appropriate response.

However, the PSR cannot tolerate a war in the Solar system. It reiterates its demand that all nations cease hostile action. Furthermore, we suggests a cease-fire, with the dispute to be mediated by the PSR in a short time.*

(ooc: I can't do it before Friday afternoon, but I hope you'll wait until then.)

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-05-15 10:20pm

::Due to a huge diplomatic foul up because of sleep deprivation the secretary who made this post, and the post itself, have now been fired. Good day::

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-05-15 10:22pm

Thirdfain wrote:
The captain of the "Black Alice" was acting with the safety of the Floater delegates on her mind, but she also saw the potential danger of the large fleets you brought in-system, from your allies, in violation of the invitation. These forces could have easily seized the expo, and the military technology on display there.

Kokand is free to move its fleets as it wishes within itso wn systems, and our allys brought nothing that was in violation.

Reports from the Krytos empire show that their demonstration was not only pre-arranged, but sanctioned by the Kokand Empire!

There is no record of any such arrangement, and in any case you cannot present a valid reason for such a pointless conspiracy to exist. If we wished to steal technology then why have all other nations been allowed to leave with there equipment and your exhibits remain sealed? You think we would star a war such as this for some monkey model downgraded technology we could simply buy for half the cost of a minor conflict?

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-05-15 10:23pm

Alyrium trudged down the hallway boiling over in rage. He opened up his communication device and pressed a few keys

" Seal off the Oort cloud, I dont want anything but Floater vessels getting through at FTL speed. Tell, all trade convoys to stop at the outer edge of the Oort cloud and conduct their transaction in those locations. Power up planetary and system defenses, and put the planetary defense grid on high alert. I want nothing getting into this system. Activate the early warnng sensor nets, and increase patrols in our space. "

"Yes sir"

Out in the ultra-dense Oort Cloud, manipulated through gravitic effects, the commets and asteroids changed positions, making safe FTL travel through...nearly impossible

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-05-15 10:23pm

Straha wrote:
Regardless of the attack on Mars the teritory around the Sol System is free space, as stipulated by the (opening decleration I believe). They could pullthrough as many warships as they want into the area around sol, and not be in the wrong.

We must question your sanity as there has been no action within the sol system. This engagment took place hundreds of light years away in a wholy Kokand system.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-15 10:24pm

The Asgard would like to ask the Floaters why they insist that the NBA members were acting to seize technology that was there for sale?

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-05-15 10:25pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Straha wrote:
Regardless of the attack on Mars the teritory around the Sol System is free space, as stipulated by the (opening decleration I believe). They could pullthrough as many warships as they want into the area around sol, and not be in the wrong.
We must question your sanity as there has been no action within the sol system. This engagment took place hundreds of light years away in a wholy Kokand system.

Yup whoopsie, mis-read something, the secretary who put that out has now been canned.

Post will be edited acordingly.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-05-15 10:27pm

Straha wrote:Regardless of the attack on Mars the teritory around the Sol System is free space, as stipulated by the (opening decleration I believe). They could pullthrough as many warships as they want into the area around sol, and not be in the wrong.

The OU would like to kindly ask, what attack on Mars. This incident took place hundreds of light-years away, in Kokand space.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-05-15 10:28pm

Beowulf wrote:
Straha wrote:Regardless of the attack on Mars the teritory around the Sol System is free space, as stipulated by the (opening decleration I believe). They could pullthrough as many warships as they want into the area around sol, and not be in the wrong.
The OU would like to kindly ask, what attack on Mars. This incident took place hundreds of light-years away, in Kokand space.

See above

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-05-15 10:28pm

Stormbringer wrote:The Asgard would like to ask the Floaters why they insist that the NBA members were acting to seize technology that was there for sale?

It is somewhat suspicious when a fleet of ships refuses to declare intentions, particularly after opening fire on an allied ship. As far as that captain knew, it was a malicious attack.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-15 10:29pm

our allys brought nothing that was in violation.

Furthermore while capital sized armed spacecraft from star navy's may be brought, no star nation may send more then eight and no more then two of cruiser rate or higher. The Kokand military will be providing security and retains the right to expel or restrict any craft or Exhibition.

The Red Dawn, two Mao class battleships, five Beijing-class battlecruisers, and 24 cruisers of various classes, all equipped with the Type-00 upgraded point defense systems, jumped to hyperspace. Their destination was the border of the Kokand Empire.

HMMM?

There is no record of any such arrangement, and in any case you cannot present a valid reason for such a pointless conspiracy to exist. If we wished to steal technology then why have all other nations been allowed to leave with there equipment and your exhibits remain sealed? You think we would star a war such as this for some monkey model downgraded technology we could simply buy for half the cost of a minor conflict?

the fact remains- By moving in your own capital ships, you violated the spirit of the expo. By calling in your allies, for NO APPARENT REASON, you raised some serious questions in the minds of those present.

The Kokand Warmongers can try to twist facts as they please, but the truth is simple: Kokand did what it could to escalate the conflict, Kokand ignored requests for explanations, and Kokand fired first, on vessels which had stood down!

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-15 10:30pm

The Asgard would like to ask the Floaters why they insist that the NBA members were acting to seize technology that was there for sale?

Now, it appears that that was not the case. At the time, it looked an awful lot like the NBA was trying to acheive local military superiority, in an area which was flying the flag of commerce and truce.