FSTGOD1: A Cool Idea

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2004-10-01 04:20pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:Oh, I know... but at least I dont have hostile dragons INSIDE my lands.

Yet.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2004-10-01 04:21pm

Can those points be spent to increase productivity inside our own nations? I have a rather large land area for my actual power level. If I could spend some points to put more land under cultivation inside my borders, that would be more useful than trying to invade the wilderness, or someone else.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-10-01 04:21pm

Hotfoot wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Oh, I know... but at least I dont have hostile dragons INSIDE my lands.
Yet.

Hey now... that isnt nice

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-10-01 04:22pm

Same here. I've got more land area than some medium powers, yet here I am, regional...

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2004-10-01 04:43pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:Hey now... that isnt nice

Your point?

As for using RPs to improve your own territory, Thirdfain and I will have to work something out. I'm not entirely opposed to it, but I think there should be more of a focus on actually going out and conquering places in order to build up your resource base, rather than just sitting pretty and slowly turning yourself into a grand power, while everyone else is out setting their troops on the line for it.

On the other hand, if you want to have little to no military buildup, it only means your neighbors will outbuild you in the short term, so it may work out.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2004-10-01 04:50pm

Hotfoot wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Hey now... that isnt nice
Your point?

As for using RPs to improve your own territory, Thirdfain and I will have to work something out. I'm not entirely opposed to it, but I think there should be more of a focus on actually going out and conquering places in order to build up your resource base, rather than just sitting pretty and slowly turning yourself into a grand power, while everyone else is out setting their troops on the line for it.

On the other hand, if you want to have little to no military buildup, it only means your neighbors will outbuild you in the short term, so it may work out.

Hey, can we use dipolmacy intsead of war to gain territory in the white zones

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-10-01 04:53pm

Agent Fisher wrote:
Hotfoot wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Hey now... that isnt nice
Your point?

As for using RPs to improve your own territory, Thirdfain and I will have to work something out. I'm not entirely opposed to it, but I think there should be more of a focus on actually going out and conquering places in order to build up your resource base, rather than just sitting pretty and slowly turning yourself into a grand power, while everyone else is out setting their troops on the line for it.

On the other hand, if you want to have little to no military buildup, it only means your neighbors will outbuild you in the short term, so it may work out.
Hey, can we use dipolmacy intsead of war to gain territory in the white zones

And just who are you going to negotiate with, hmmmmm?

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-10-01 04:54pm

Rogue 9 wrote:And just who are you going to negotiate with, hmmmmm?

Orcs, I guess. Maybe some half-dressed guys with axes and BO.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2004-10-01 04:55pm

I am sure there is a non crazy city state on the coast.

Offer them protection, and maybe they will join me.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2004-10-01 05:06pm

Agent Fisher wrote:I am sure there is a non crazy city state on the coast.

Offer them protection, and maybe they will join me.

It's barbarians as far as the eye can see in the white areas.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2004-10-01 05:11pm

Beowulf wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote:I am sure there is a non crazy city state on the coast.

Offer them protection, and maybe they will join me.
It's barbarians as far as the eye can see in the white areas.

out of all that area there isnt a single non barbarian group out there?

Well then I guess I will just have to conquer some seaside territory.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-10-01 05:18pm

Beowulf wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote:I am sure there is a non crazy city state on the coast.

Offer them protection, and maybe they will join me.
It's barbarians as far as the eye can see in the white areas.

Barbarian doesn't mean primitive lunatic you know. There were any number of 'barbarian' cultures that were actually rather developed. Really the term barbarian was used primarily as a way simply of denegrating societies not part of the Mediterranean clique.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2004-10-01 05:24pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Beowulf wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote:I am sure there is a non crazy city state on the coast.

Offer them protection, and maybe they will join me.
It's barbarians as far as the eye can see in the white areas.
Barbarian doesn't mean primitive lunatic you know. There were any number of 'barbarian' cultures that were actually rather developed. Really the term barbarian was used primarily as a way simply of denegrating societies not part of the Mediterranean clique.

Fine, it's barbarians as far as the eye can see everywhere. Better?

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-10-01 05:32pm

Hell for all intends and purposes the WolGar are barbarians. We just learned to bathe is all.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-10-01 06:14pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Straha wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote: Straha, just to point out, you're being addressed by one of his representatives' dragon, not the representative himself. The dragon would naturally have remained outside.
Did I say I have any problems with him doing whatever he wants outside? For all I care he could be throwing a Luau (sp?) BUT I do have a problem with him butting into a conversation that he has no right to be a part of. This is for (Stormtrooperofdeath? GOD DAMN I keep forgetting who is playing Cypus) and not for Aly. If I want to talk to Aly, I'll say I'm talking to Aly. End of story.
Unfortunatly, you are dealing with multiple powers in the same city. And it stands to reason that a dragon isnt going to give a rats ass about some sailor being annoyed by his questioning.

Besides, I am suspicious of your motives.

I DON'T CARE IF THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF RAVAGING BARBARIANS IN THE CITY! I'M HERE TO TALK TO THE KING OF CYPRUS, NOT SOME UPSTART PRETENTIOUS DRAGONS!

What part of "mind your own fucking buisness" don't you under? I will, eventually, get around to playing out my envoys arrival in your lands. In the mean time accept that you are not going to be involved in this, and stick your big nose somewhere where it will be more warmly recieved, capeesh?

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-10-01 06:15pm

Straha wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Straha wrote: Did I say I have any problems with him doing whatever he wants outside? For all I care he could be throwing a Luau (sp?) BUT I do have a problem with him butting into a conversation that he has no right to be a part of. This is for (Stormtrooperofdeath? GOD DAMN I keep forgetting who is playing Cypus) and not for Aly. If I want to talk to Aly, I'll say I'm talking to Aly. End of story.
Unfortunatly, you are dealing with multiple powers in the same city. And it stands to reason that a dragon isnt going to give a rats ass about some sailor being annoyed by his questioning.

Besides, I am suspicious of your motives.
I DON'T CARE IF THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF RAVAGING BARBARIANS IN THE CITY! I'M HERE TO TALK TO THE KING OF CYPRUS, NOT SOME UPSTART PRETENTIOUS DRAGONS!

What part of "mind your own fucking buisness" don't you under? I will, eventually, get around to playing out my envoys arrival in your lands. In the mean time accept that you are not going to be involved in this, and stick your big nose somewhere where it will be more warmly recieved, capeesh?

Straha, you want to be taken before the King. The King is in council with our representatives at the moment. I find it highly likely that you'll be taken before the council anyway.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-10-01 06:51pm

Hotfoot wrote:
Dahak wrote:I guess those points are regiment points?
Correct

Can they be spent to train existing troops, making them stronger, as well, or only on new ones?
I would be inclined to say that yes, you are allowed to use them to improve existing troops, though we would ask that everyone please use some discretion in doing so, as having troops with 20 points of power will quickly become silly

I'd guess that the soft cap on quality would be between 2 and 4, depending on the circumstances. A single warship, for instance, might noy see much improvement beyond 2 regiments. Heavy Cavalry might drop off somewhere at 3 and Infantry and mounted archers might exist somwhere in the 3 - 4 range.

I suppose there could also be hyper-elite all mage units; Spellswords, Magi Cavalry, etc. which might exist in the 4+ range.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-10-01 07:02pm

Straha wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Straha wrote: Did I say I have any problems with him doing whatever he wants outside? For all I care he could be throwing a Luau (sp?) BUT I do have a problem with him butting into a conversation that he has no right to be a part of. This is for (Stormtrooperofdeath? GOD DAMN I keep forgetting who is playing Cypus) and not for Aly. If I want to talk to Aly, I'll say I'm talking to Aly. End of story.
Unfortunatly, you are dealing with multiple powers in the same city. And it stands to reason that a dragon isnt going to give a rats ass about some sailor being annoyed by his questioning.

Besides, I am suspicious of your motives.
I DON'T CARE IF THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF RAVAGING BARBARIANS IN THE CITY! I'M HERE TO TALK TO THE KING OF CYPRUS, NOT SOME UPSTART PRETENTIOUS DRAGONS!

What part of "mind your own fucking buisness" don't you under? I will, eventually, get around to playing out my envoys arrival in your lands. In the mean time accept that you are not going to be involved in this, and stick your big nose somewhere where it will be more warmly recieved, capeesh?

How about you go fuck yourself sideways with a chainsaw Straha. I have free will, and because I have people in the same room as the emperor, I have a vested interest in what you are taking into that place. Therefore, it is my business, and it just so happens my soul-bonded dragons are waiting outside, and are somewhat bored at the moment.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-10-01 07:03pm

Rogue 9 wrote: Straha, you want to be taken before the King. The King is in council with our representatives at the moment. I find it highly likely that you'll be taken before the council anyway.

You see I don't know that they're in council because that would be Meta-gaming. What I do know is that I'm sending Envoys every which way because my people are unsure of what to do next. What I do know is that Aly has no impetus to but in on my discussions with a guard, no more than he would have to talk to two lovers walking down the street of Cyprus (unless one of those lovers is in fact HIS lover, but in this case I assure you no such bond exists in anyway.)

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-10-01 07:16pm

I may not have such impetus personally. A sentient dragon who happens to be bored just might. You have to separate me from my characters.

For the same reason a cop might pull you ovver when he is bored, so may a dragon who is also technically a bodyguard check your stuff because HE is bored. Or the dragon could be suspicious of someone who bumbls up directly to the a palace gate with covered packages and seeks audience with an emperor.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-10-01 07:21pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:I may not have such impetus personally. A sentient dragon who happens to be bored just might. You have to separate me from my characters.

For the same reason a cop might pull you ovver when he is bored, so may a dragon who is also technically a bodyguard check your stuff because HE is bored. Or the dragon could be suspicious of someone who bumbls up directly to the a palace gate with covered packages and seeks audience with an emperor.

But then again it is not your business to play police in a strange land...

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-10-01 07:22pm

Dahak wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:I may not have such impetus personally. A sentient dragon who happens to be bored just might. You have to separate me from my characters.

For the same reason a cop might pull you ovver when he is bored, so may a dragon who is also technically a bodyguard check your stuff because HE is bored. Or the dragon could be suspicious of someone who bumbls up directly to the a palace gate with covered packages and seeks audience with an emperor.
But then again it is not your business to play police in a strange land...

It is when their half brother, and soul bond brother are in the same room with said emperor.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-10-01 07:22pm

Alyrium can do what he did, but frankly, it's the absolute height of diplomatic discourtesy, and a terrible idea.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-10-01 07:28pm

Thirdfain wrote:Alyrium can do what he did, but frankly, it's the absolute height of diplomatic discourtesy, and a terrible idea.

It isnt as if my tribunes did it

Dragons are just acting like protective siblings with a bit of power

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-10-01 07:42pm

Straha. They're dragons. I don't think they'll be overly worried by a couple dudes with scimitars.