SDN Diplomacy - part III - commentary thread

[LaCroix]

Looks like it's up to the Austrians and Russians to do something about Turkey for now!

How... repetitive...

[Skywalker_T-65]

More hilarious when you think Turkey is taking back their old territory anyway

[Bernkastel]

Fall 05 Retreat

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GERMANY
Kiel DESTROY -> resolved

[OmegaChief]

And so the Allies along with Russia split Germany into east and w- waaaait, I think I'm fourty years too early.

[Bernkastel]

Fall 1905 Build

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ENGLAND
BUILD fleet London -> resolved

GERMANY
Warsaw DESTROY -> resolved

RUSSIA
BUILD army St. Petersburg -> resolved
BUILD army Moscow -> There is already a unit on square mos

[atg]

Hmm I'm pretty doomed now lol

[OmegaChief]

Stiff upper lip now! You and the Russians can hold back the Turkish horde long enough for my fleets to get there I'm sure!

[wautd]

You guys should do an epic game of Hearts of Iron multiplayer.

[atg]

Stiff upper lip now! You and the Russians can hold back the Turkish horde long enough for my fleets to get there I'm sure!

I am fully commited to fighting to the last Frenchman Russian!

[Bernkastel]

Spring 1906 Orders and Retreat

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ENGLAND
Denmark HOLD -> resolved
English Channel MOVE Mid-Atlantic Ocean -> resolved
Wales HOLD -> resolved
Edinburgh MOVE Belgium -> resolved
London MOVE English Channel -> resolved
North Sea CONVOY Edinburgh to Belgium -> resolved
Kiel MOVE Holland -> resolved

FRANCE
Picardy HOLD -> resolved
Paris HOLD -> resolved
Marseilles HOLD -> resolved
Spain (South Coast) HOLD -> resolved
Burgundy HOLD -> resolved

GERMANY
Ruhr HOLD -> resolved
Munich HOLD -> resolved

AUSTRIA
Vienna HOLD -> resolved
Naples HOLD -> Dislodged by f ion - nap
Tyrolia SUPPORT Vienna to hold -> resolved
Trieste MOVE Venice -> resolved
 
TURKEY
Galicia MOVE Warsaw -> resolved
Black Sea MOVE Aegean Sea -> Illegal order replaced with Hold order
Sevastopol MOVE Moscow -> Bounced
Ionian Sea MOVE Naples -> resolved
Apulia SUPPORT Ionian Sea to Naples -> resolved
Serbia MOVE Trieste -> resolved
Ukraine SUPPORT Galicia to Warsaw -> resolved
Rumania MOVE Galicia -> resolved
Adriatic Sea SUPPORT Serbia to Trieste -> resolved
Budapest SUPPORT Serbia to Trieste -> resolved

RUSSIA
Moscow HOLD -> resolved
Norway MOVE Sweden -> resolved
Berlin MOVE Prussia -> resolved
St. Petersburg SUPPORT Moscow to hold -> resolved

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AUSTRIA
Naples RETREAT Rome -> resolved

[Spoonist]

In case people didn't notice, I'm back from the vacation so you can all start to send diplomatic dispatches again...
*sound of crickets in the night*

Stiff upper lip now! You and the Russians can hold back the Turkish horde long enough for my fleets to get there I'm sure!

Fleets? You expect to stop the rampaging armies of the musselmen with fleets? *evil cackle*
I will trade you tunis for italy and austria...

You guys should do an epic game of Hearts of Iron multiplayer.

At least in that scenario a non-moving frenchie would make sense...

[Spoonist]

Fall 1906 Orders

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ENGLAND
Denmark HOLD -> resolved
Mid-Atlantic Ocean MOVE Portugal -> resolved
Wales MOVE Brest -> resolved
Belgium SUPPORT Holland to Ruhr -> resolved
English Channel CONVOY Wales to Brest -> resolved
North Sea HOLD -> resolved
Holland MOVE Ruhr -> resolved

FRANCE
Picardy HOLD -> resolved
Paris HOLD -> resolved
Marseilles HOLD -> resolved
Spain (South Coast) HOLD -> resolved
Burgundy HOLD -> resolved

GERMANY
Ruhr HOLD -> Dislodged by a hol - ruh
Munich HOLD -> resolved

AUSTRIA
Vienna SUPPORT Tyrolia to Trieste -> Dislodged by a bud - vie
Rome MOVE Apulia -> Dislodged by a app - rom
Tyrolia MOVE Trieste -> Bounced
Venice SUPPORT Tyrolia to Trieste -> Support cut by f adr - ven
 
TURKEY
Warsaw SUPPORT Sevastopol to Moscow -> Dislodged by a mos - war
Black Sea MOVE London -> Illegal order replaced with Hold order
Sevastopol MOVE Moscow -> resolved
Naples SUPPORT Apulia to Rome -> resolved
Apulia MOVE Rome -> resolved
Trieste MOVE Tyrolia -> Bounced
Ukraine SUPPORT Sevastopol to Moscow -> resolved
Galicia SUPPORT Budapest to Vienna -> resolved
Adriatic Sea MOVE Venice -> Bounced
Budapest MOVE Vienna -> resolved

RUSSIA
Moscow MOVE Warsaw -> resolved
Sweden MOVE Gulf of Bothnia -> resolved
Prussia SUPPORT Moscow to Warsaw -> resolved
St. Petersburg MOVE Livonia -> resolved
 

[Spoonist]

Beautifully executed stab - well if you actually had had any opposition to it except for Hold orders it would probably taste sweeter...

[OmegaChief]

It might actually provoke a reaction from them! Also I need the troops so I can resist the massive amounts of Ottomon Opression heading my way.

[Spoonist]

It might actually provoke a reaction from them! Also I need the troops so I can resist the massive amounts of Ottomon Opression heading my way.

Bah, turkey and england have too much in common... like... uhm... tea? So, uhm, lets unite europe into a vast twin empire of teadrinkers.
Or let's just divvy it up and never fight.

[Spoonist]

@Salieri
That StP-Liv move was brilliant. It guaranteed you a build where no other solution did. Nice.

[Spoonist]

Fall 1906 Retreat

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GERMANY
Ruhr DESTROY -> resolved

AUSTRIA
Rome RETREAT Apulia -> Cant retreat to the location the attack came from
Vienna RETREAT Budapest -> Cant retreat to the location the attack came from

TURKEY
Warsaw RETREAT Silesia -> resolved

Fall 1906 Build

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ENGLAND
BUILD army Edinburgh -> resolved
BUILD army London -> resolved

FRANCE
Spain (South Coast) DESTROY -> resolved
Burgundy DESTROY -> resolved

AUSTRIA
Tyrolia DESTROY -> resolved

TURKEY
BUILD fleet Smyrna -> resolved
BUILD army Ankara -> resolved
BUILD army Constantinople -> resolved
 
RUSSIA
BUILD army St. Petersburg -> resolved
 

ENGLAND
(OmegaChief)
5 army units
4 fleet units
9 centers

FRANCE
(Calsattack)
3 army units
0 fleet units
3 centers

ITALY
(theadvocate)
0 army units
0 fleet units
0 centers

GERMANY
(surrendered)
1 army units
0 fleet units
1 centers

AUSTRIA
(CockneyWeasel)
0 army units
1 fleet units
1 centers

TURKEY
(Spoonist)
9 army units
4 fleet units
15 centers

RUSSIA
(Tarle)
4 army units
1 fleet units
5 centers

[OmegaChief]

The British Army is celebrating the taking of the vast wine reserves in Brest, one wonders if they'll be able to move or get stuck like the French were.

Of course speaking of France, it's looking quite likly that by 1908, I will have finally achieved every Englishmans dream, and destroyed them once and for all.

[Grandmaster Jogurt]

Is this the kind of game where when one country takes the majority of supply centers, the game is over?

If so, we might not get to 1908

[Skywalker_T-65]

Its also quickly turning into Spoonist's 'Great Anglo-Turkish Empire' situation

[OmegaChief]

I believe the number you need to get is 18, and I'm hopeful that the Anglo-Russian Alliance can prevent the Turks from claiming that many.

[Spoonist]

I believe the number you need to get is 18
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http://www.playdiplomacy.com/help.php
"The objective of Diplomacy is to be the first to get 18 supply centers."

, and I'm hopeful that the Anglo-Russian Alliance can prevent the Turks from claiming that many.

How?
http://www.diplom.org/Online/StalematesAtoY/
http://www.diplom.org/Online/Stalemates ... essive.htm

I still think it was a mistake for you to not act aggressively sooner.

[OmegaChief]

At the time you were encouraging me to be agressive, Germany was still active and twice as powerful as me, while I didn't have the number of forces to anything other then get bogged down in France!

And I'm not going to call it Stalemate until we've at least tried to push you back.

[Spoonist]

If so, we might not get to 1908

Oh, we will get a 1908.
Russian front is 4 vs 4 - so barring luck on any side, that is gridlocked. Hence the brilliance of the Livonia move it saved the day.

The only other centers within two turkish moves are Venice and Munich, but it is the same units facing both.
So the only realistic gains for turkey in 1907 is +1c. So barring massive luck and or NMRs this will definately last into 1908 if not 1909 depending on france.

[Spoonist]

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Admin (Spring 1907, Nov 25 2012 14:06 (GMT+1))
 Calsattack auto_surrendered as FRANCE 

*sigh* I even asked him outright if he really wanted to play.

Spring 1907 Orders

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ENGLAND
Denmark MOVE Baltic Sea -> resolved
Belgium SUPPORT Ruhr to Burgundy -> resolved
Portugal MOVE Spain (South Coast) -> resolved
English Channel CONVOY London to Brest -> resolved
Edinburgh MOVE Holland -> resolved
London MOVE Brest -> resolved
Brest MOVE Gascony -> resolved
Ruhr MOVE Burgundy -> resolved
North Sea CONVOY Edinburgh to Holland -> resolved

FRANCE
Paris HOLD -> resolved
Picardy HOLD -> resolved
Marseilles HOLD -> resolved

GERMANY
Munich HOLD -> resolved

AUSTRIA
Venice MOVE Trieste -> resolved
 
TURKEY
Smyrna MOVE Aegean Sea -> resolved
Galicia MOVE Warsaw -> Bounced
Moscow MOVE Livonia -> Dislodged by a stp - mos
Vienna MOVE Bohemia -> resolved
Ankara MOVE Rumania -> resolved
Constantinople MOVE Bulgaria -> resolved
Naples MOVE Tyrrhenian Sea -> resolved
Rome HOLD -> resolved
Trieste MOVE Tyrolia -> resolved
Adriatic Sea MOVE Ionian Sea -> resolved
Silesia MOVE Berlin -> resolved
Black Sea CONVOY Ankara to Rumania -> resolved
Ukraine SUPPORT Galicia to Warsaw -> Supported unit has failed

RUSSIA
Warsaw HOLD -> resolved
Gulf of Bothnia HOLD -> resolved
Prussia SUPPORT Warsaw to hold -> resolved
Livonia SUPPORT St. Petersburg to Moscow -> resolved
St. Petersburg MOVE Moscow -> resolved