Any one interested in an Honorverse STGOD?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-09-28 06:29pm

I'm not at all sure at this point we'll have enough people. I guess we'll see who actually posts.

White Haven · Post by **White Haven** » 2004-09-28 06:42pm

Hmm...this makes Torch a bit fuzzy to play. Anyone have a clue where Torch's three wormhole junctions lead? Aside from a vague reference to 'somewhere around Mesa' for one of the three termini, I don't see any clarification on the matter, and that'll drastically affect how I play them.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-09-28 06:49pm

White Haven wrote:Hmm...this makes Torch a bit fuzzy to play. Anyone have a clue where Torch's three wormhole junctions lead? Aside from a vague reference to 'somewhere around Mesa' for one of the three termini, I don't see any clarification on the matter, and that'll drastically affect how I play them.

Bumpkin Space.

But seriously, aside from Mesa they don't seem to lead anywhere really important. Considering it's a third world nation itself I'd be suprised if it lead anywhere better.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-09-28 06:53pm

So we came to the timeline being after Torch/CoS?
That would put it roughly at the time Honor left for Marsh.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-09-28 07:08pm

Dahak wrote:So we came to the timeline being after Torch/CoS?
That would put it roughly at the time Honor left for Marsh.

Yeah, but it doesn't look like we've got the people to actually play.

White Haven · Post by **White Haven** » 2004-09-28 07:10pm

Well, by the end of Crown of Slaves, there'd been no time for them to explore the junction there, and 'Verdant Vista' wasn't a star nation at all, so third world or no doesn't really apply. We know at least one leads to (or near to) the Solarian League, albeit in Mesa's neighborhood, and that alone is fairly significant. Anyone know if Weber's infodumped on that yet?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-09-28 07:15pm

White Haven wrote:Well, by the end of Crown of Slaves, there'd been no time for them to explore the junction there, and 'Verdant Vista' wasn't a star nation at all, so third world or no doesn't really apply. We know at least one leads to (or near to) the Solarian League, albeit in Mesa's neighborhood, and that alone is fairly significant.

Actually, it's not. Torch was relatively worthless real estate to start with and nothing's changed that. Mesa is probably the most signficant planet it comes near. And even then I'd say it most likely isn't in the best neighborhood. Probably decayed third tier status like the rest of the Sollies frontier.

As for exploring, isn't it already mapped?

White Haven wrote:Anyone know if Weber's infodumped on that yet?

No.

White Haven · Post by **White Haven** » 2004-09-28 07:22pm

It's referenced in Crown of Slaves that the only vague idea anyone has of the termini is that one leads near to Mesa, and in one of the Saganami chapters published online (10, in fact, if you want to check at the Baen Bar), it's mentioned that either Manpower never even explored them, or they destroyed the records before being massacred on Congo. So no, they're not mapped at all, which is distressing.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-09-28 07:29pm

White Haven wrote:It's referenced in Crown of Slaves that the only vague idea anyone has of the termini is that one leads near to Mesa, and in one of the Saganami chapters published online (10, in fact, if you want to check at the Baen Bar), it's mentioned that either Manpower never even explored them, or they destroyed the records before being massacred on Congo. So no, they're not mapped at all, which is distressing.

Haven't read the Saginami spoiler. I just get the books when they come out.

As for the terminus, I think it more likely the records were simply destroyed. Because barring Acts of Plot, it doesn't seem there's much to Torch. At the very least it doesn't seem to be worth noting on the big map.

White Haven · Post by **White Haven** » 2004-09-28 07:32pm

Well, it's fairly rich in pharmaceuticals and such, so once the Torches get a humane harvesting industry set up, that could form the backbone of a decent economy. It only didn't before because Mesa was stripping that stuff off of the planet and selling it themselves. Still leaves the blasted Junction as a wildcard, though.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-09-28 07:34pm

White Haven wrote:Well, it's fairly rich in pharmaceuticals and such, so once the Torches get a humane harvesting industry set up, that could form the backbone of a decent economy. It only didn't before because Mesa was stripping that stuff off of the planet and selling it themselves. Still leaves the blasted Junction as a wildcard, though.

I know about Torch. I own the book. I'm just pointing out it's hardly worldshaker on it's own. And the wormhole so far doesn't seem to be a big one like the Junction or the Asgard's.

White Haven · Post by **White Haven** » 2004-09-28 09:36pm

I hope Saganami clears that up, I've got a fallback plan for how to RP the lack of knowledge in the mean time, though, so it's not a gamebreaker. I'll get to working up my own OOB, on the offchance that we actually get to play this. Sounds like this is probably about six months to a year after CoS ends?

White Haven · Post by **White Haven** » 2004-09-30 02:19am

Torch Liberation Army (formal name pending)

-Naval Arm:

6 Manticore-built frigates, dubbed Pottawatomie Creek-class. Another six contracted for construction by the Hauptmann Cartel, partially funded by the Anti-Slavery League.

Crash freighter armament program to provide basic system defense against Mesan incursion.

Attempts to obtain destroyer-class ships either from Silesian or Solarian sources, again via Anti-Slavery League contacts.

-Ground Forces:

Audobon Ballroom:
Responsible for both the lion's share of the nascent nation's ground forces and that same nation's intelligence service, the former terrorist organization's gunmen are deadly shots with light armaments, but have little experience with either heavy weapons or anything beyond small-unit engagements and guerilla tactics.

'Amazons' and other genies:
Torch possesses a small corps of both 'Scrags,' genetically-engineered supersoldiers descended from Earth's final war, and immigrants from the Mfecane worlds of the Solarian League. The Mfecane genome is extraordinarily strong, fast, and durable, and the worlds themselves are both heavy-grav and very harsh in terms of social climate. The Torch armed forces, and particularly ground forces, are lead by Thandi Palane, a former Solarian League Marine and a Mfecane immigrant.

-Intelligence:

While not known for subtlety, the Audobon Ballroom's fanatic devotion to the destruction of Mesa has lead to the development of unquestionable skill in infiltration and information-gathering. While they have no formal operational structure, Thandi Palane was formerly an intelligence 'black ops' specialist for a Solarian League faction, and hence provides perhaps the best central authority on the subject outside of the Ballroom organization itself.

More detailed information to follow when I have a better idea of how many months Torch has had to get on its feet and get its act together. That's the rub of a brand new nation

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2004-10-18 03:00pm

Bumpity Bump bump

Republic of Erewhon Navy: OOB(shamelessly lifted off of Dahak's original)

20 Erewhon class SD (B 0)
Newer SD design, still non-pod, but more missile heavy,and designed for towing a heavier load of pods for the initial

15 Emporium class SD (B 0)
Old, pre-pod design, energy heavy)

40 Fuentes class BC (B 0)
Older design, refited with Alliance technology, missile heavy.

14 Naples class BC (16, PT 50)
New design, energy heavy, less, but SD mounts.

120 Imbesi class CA (B 0)
The working horse, used for anti-piracy operations, fast and missile heavy.

30 Hall CA (B 40, PT 80)
newer design, almost half again the size of an Imbesi, normal mix of missiles/energy mounts.

220 Glorious class CL (B 30, PT 260)
heavy for a CL, favouring energy mounts.

140 Nevernight DD (B ongoing)
old design, mostly for backup operations.

OoB updated to account for Weber's revelations as to the composition of Erewhon's navy and building capabilities.

And just to be a shamelssly ungrateful bastard: Dahak, you really shouldn't have any Temeraires in service yet, unless the events in WoH took a hell of a lot longer than I remember. Given the initial build time stated, the first units should still be at least 6 months to a year out from completion.

White Haven · Post by **White Haven** » 2004-10-18 05:59pm

<madscientist> It's ALIIIIVE! </madscientist>

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-10-18 07:11pm

consequences wrote:And just to be a shamelssly ungrateful bastard: Dahak, you really shouldn't have any Temeraires in service yet, unless the events in WoH took a hell of a lot longer than I remember. Given the initial build time stated, the first units should still be at least 6 months to a year out from completion.

I heartilly agree on that point. They definitely should be still a'building.

Captain tycho · Post by **Captain tycho** » 2004-10-18 10:14pm

Consider me in. I'm quite interested in the Honorverse, but sadly, I haven't read past the 3rd book, so someone will have to fill me in on all the happenings.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-10-18 10:23pm

Captain tycho wrote:Consider me in. I'm quite interested in the Honorverse, but sadly, I haven't read past the 3rd book, so someone will have to fill me in on all the happenings.

I'm not sure we have the people. Right it's me, you, consequences, White Haven and Dahak,

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2004-10-20 08:09am

Stormbringer wrote:
Captain tycho wrote:Consider me in. I'm quite interested in the Honorverse, but sadly, I haven't read past the 3rd book, so someone will have to fill me in on all the happenings.
I'm not sure we have the people. Right it's me, you, consequences, White Haven and Dahak,

Hey, if Straha opts out, dibs on Manticore.

Potential players who haven't expressed continued interest after their shameless grabbing of the best picks:

Thirdfain(Solarian League)
Beowulf(Grayson, history repeating itself)
Straha(Manticore, the rat bastard)

White Haven · Post by **White Haven** » 2004-10-20 10:31am

Like it or not, Torch is a bit part. If we need to shuffle around to get this thing off the ground, I can switch to someone more critical if it's vacant. Admittedly, I'll miss the Ballroom...

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-10-20 02:15pm

I wouldn't mind playing and if they're not interested then we can ditch them. But four people doesn't really make an STGOD.

I'll talk to people and see if they're interested or not.