Online game: Urban Dead

Dangermouse · Post by **Dangermouse** » 2005-11-30 01:18am

Ace Pace wrote:The syringe Find % is up to 15% from 5%, This massively changed the balence of power.

I wonder why they did that. There have always been more survivors than zombies and the numbers were approaching balance/parity. Nows its threating to return to the days of old and become less like a zombie apocalypse game and more like a hunt the endangered zombies game.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2005-11-30 01:19am

Usually its a precursor to some large change.

Dangermouse · Post by **Dangermouse** » 2005-11-30 01:33am

Ace Pace wrote:Usually its a precursor to some large change.

I am betting large building functionality and new zombie skills. Maybe survivors are given a chance now to stockpile before the storm comes?

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2005-11-30 01:36am

It will only make it worse, currently, the Caiger Mall defenders are winning. Why? Barricade zerging and the syringes.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2005-11-30 12:44pm

Estimates I've seen for Caiger Mall defenders run anywhere from 200 to 500, not counting those in adjacent buildings.

And it's not just because of the syringes. It's because we've smartened up and use our AP for barricading and killing any zeds that manage to get in while the barricades slip. And after each kill comes a body-dump so those pesky ankle-grabbers are thrown out before they can stand up again.

And those survivor : zed ratios are a bit misleading. A lot of career zeds have been accidentally revived, and we've seen an influx of cultists / spies in the Caiger Mall area spamming messages.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2005-11-30 12:47pm

Matt, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you also have another boost. Some of the 'defenders' are using extensions and are auto-barricading,body dumping, healing, syringing, etc.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2005-11-30 12:51pm

Yeah, I know about Firefox extensions. A lot of proposals about improving the browser interface have been shot down by people who screech "ZOMFG Firefox extensions for Windows do this already" and follow-up by calling the proposals Microsoft Apologists.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2005-11-30 12:52pm

Its not just extensions, its basicly bot scripts.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2005-11-30 01:02pm

Ace Pace wrote:Its not just extensions, its basicly bot scripts.

I'm fielding a guess here, but a lot of those bot scrips are probably built off of existing extensions and would have to be rewritten because of a browser interface change.

Also, the bot script problem is by no means limited to survivors.

Post by **Dalton** » 2005-12-01 12:37pm

You attack the zombie and miss.
You attack the zombie and miss.
You attack the zombie and miss.
You attack the zombie and miss.
You attack the zombie and miss.
You attack the zombie and miss.
You attack the zombie and miss.
You attack the zombie and miss.
You attack the zombie and miss.
You attack the zombie and miss.
You attack the zombie and miss.
You attack the zombie and miss.
You attack the zombie for 3HP damage. They drop to 57HP. Please contact the game master so they can lower the chances of attacks actually hitting even more, thereby frustrating newer players into quitting this shitty game.

gizmojumpjet · Post by **gizmojumpjet** » 2005-12-01 02:01pm

That's what seems strange about UD. Other games I've played make it pretty easy to level early on, and then it gets harder. UD turns this on it's head. At early levels, it's difficult to get XP and level-up. The higher you get, the easier it becomes.

Try creating three different characters and running them concurrently if you haven't already. One of them might get a few better rolls here and there (One of my chars found 8 pistol clips in a row once...) and even if not you've got a few different opportunities for play until your IP exhausts it's allocation of APs. Are you running a fire fighter? I know the conventional wisdom is that FFs are better because they don't require any ammo for their starting weapon, they also get a pretty crappy to-hit with that weapon. The extra 5% starting to-hit makes a difference in my experience. Just my $.02

It really does take a lot of grinding at the beginning, but hey, it's free!

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Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2005-12-01 02:48pm

Firefighters and Cops are the best survivor classes to start out with.

In theory, Consumers can get a good head start equipment-wise by looting a mall, but in practice malls are the constant target of zombie attacks, and thus are typically extremely heavily fortified.

Also, a note for other veteran survivors:
If you have headshot and maxed out necrotech and firearms skill trees, then a good thing to do is get a bunch of syringes and ammo, then head over to a revive point.

Attack a zombie until they're one shot away from death, then stick them with the needle. If they are revived, they'll turn into a body, but if they are brainrotted, then they'll stick around for you to finish off with a headshot. Rinse, repeat. This way, you filter out survivors who need to be revived from brainrotters there to waste your syringes.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2005-12-01 02:57pm

Caiger Mall Update:
SE corner was briefly breached, but once word got out to the other sectors the zeds were promptly shown the door and barricades were built back up to extremely heavy.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2005-12-01 03:42pm

And caiger Mall Siege is over.

gizmojumpjet · Post by **gizmojumpjet** » 2005-12-01 04:05pm

Ace Pace wrote:And caiger Mall Siege is over.

Don't you think it's a little premature to say that? I've seen the message boards too, but there are still 494 zombies outside the SE corner.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2005-12-01 05:28pm

Well, if 1000 zombies couldn't overrun the mall it's unlikely that half that number will have any success.

gizmojumpjet · Post by **gizmojumpjet** » 2005-12-01 10:36pm

I'm not arguing that the siege will be successful (insert your definition of success here). My point is that I consider a building with 400+ Zeds shambling about outside as still under siege.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2005-12-02 12:19am

You misunderstand.

The Caiger Mall Defenders and the RRF(along with several other hordes) have agreed to part ways, giving the Humans the round.

Its strategy, the hordes are losing members and moving back to Ridleybank to save it.

That, and the confirmed botting...

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2005-12-03 08:17am

Activity in the Caiger Mall area seems to be winding down, but there still are still a good deal of ferals roaming around.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2005-12-03 11:49am

11 shotguns. 13 pistols. All military skills.

Time to get some Zed-Heads.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2005-12-03 01:09pm

Hey Nitram, come on over to Caiger Mall. The big hordes like the RRF and Undying Scourge may have packed up and headed home, but we've still got plenty of ferals trying to attack nearby safehouses.

Oh, and maxed out survivor skills.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2005-12-05 12:06am

Damn over-barricaders. Can one of you guys give me a revive? I'm standing right outside the safehouse.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2005-12-05 12:12pm

Which one?

I recommend against heading towards the St. Isadore revive point, brainrotters have been crowding outside to waste survivor syringes.

Also, I've got a weary feeling about those 500+ bodies that are just laying around outside the SE quad of Caiger. They're either zerg characters that have been discarded or zeds waiting to go invisible in wait of the next siege on Caiger. I'm hoping for the former, but everybody in Caiger is preparing for the latter.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2005-12-05 02:58pm

I know, why I tend to avoid revive zones now. Spent 3 days with my firefighter standing at a revive zone. All I got for my trouble there was 3 headshots and I didn't get revived until I'd gotten sick of it and moved off.

Anyway some kind soul was nice enough to stick me so I'm back among the living.

In other updates.. FOOLISH HUMANS! Teach you to revive my Zed character. Flak Jacket for me, huzzah!

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2005-12-05 03:08pm

I have a flak jacket on both my chars as a precaution against PKers / Cultists. Next AP-cycle, I'll try and hit your survivor with a revive syringe. Shouldn't be too hard to find since Caiger has at least four Necrotech buildings in the general viscinity.