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Pentium D

Posted: 2007-01-07 09:25am
by Resinence
I have this problem, and was wondering if anyone here knew anything about this issue.

I recently built a pentium D system, and window's is only detecting one core.
But that's not whats strange, device manager shows 2 CPU's as it should, and the bios detects 2 CPU's on startup. But task manager only shows one, CPU-Z only shows one and applications only use one.

I have tried every bios setting (its an intel 965 chipset socket 755, so it's compatible) and checked for anything I'm supposed to configure but I'm stumped, what the hell?

Posted: 2007-01-07 10:10am
by Ace Pace
Innocent Bystander had a similar problem, so check the following:

1) Did you reuse a windows installation(or an image) from a prior single core PC?

2) Are you using any sort of customised winXP install(such as a university disc) that might be set to single processor only?

Posted: 2007-01-07 10:20am
by Resinence
It's an OEM disk from a different machine, I'll try to get a standard install disk somehow, thanks for the help.

Posted: 2007-01-07 10:28am
by Ace Pace
Resinence wrote:It's an OEM disk from a different machine, I'll try to get a standard install disk somehow, thanks for the help.
That could be it, but I'm not sure, I'll wait for InnocentBystander to hop in.

On that note, a standard install disk + nLite = Awesome geek toy.

Posted: 2007-01-07 10:34am
by Resinence
Hmm, with Vista so close, I might just leave it till then and get myself an Ultimate Edition box.

Posted: 2007-01-07 10:48am
by Ace Pace
Resinence wrote:Hmm, with Vista so close, I might just leave it till then and get myself an Ultimate Edition box.
:shock:

[size=0]Nuff said[/size]

Posted: 2007-01-07 11:19am
by phongn
Make sure your computer type is set to ACPI Multiprocessor PC and not Uniprocessor.

Posted: 2007-01-07 11:42am
by Ace Pace
phongn wrote:Make sure your computer type is set to ACPI Multiprocessor PC and not Uniprocessor.
Is it possible to change that after Windows has installed?

Posted: 2007-01-07 11:48am
by phongn
Yes. You change the driver for your computer type.

Posted: 2007-01-07 11:49am
by InnocentBystander
Yes, it turns that if your install/image set your HAL to an older version (pre ACPI) then you are pretty much stuck. If you are running ACPI Uniprocessor, you can do as phongn suggested and update the driver to Multiprocssor, but if your image is more than a few years old chances are it won't be using that.
If you have a windows disk and a valid key you can do a repair install which should rebuild your HAL, but otherwise you are pretty much stuck with buying a new OS.
I'm in that boat, and am currently trying to figure out a way to get Vista business/ultimate on the cheap.

Posted: 2007-01-07 01:48pm
by Master of Cards
Resinence wrote:Hmm, with Vista so close, I might just leave it till then and get myself an Ultimate Edition box.
Just don't Just don't

Posted: 2007-01-07 02:39pm
by Ace Pace
Master of Cards wrote:
Resinence wrote:Hmm, with Vista so close, I might just leave it till then and get myself an Ultimate Edition box.
Just don't Just don't

Please, expand on any good reasons NOT to get Vista if he's currently running XP?

Posted: 2007-01-07 02:49pm
by Darth Wong
Ace Pace wrote:
Master of Cards wrote:
Resinence wrote:Hmm, with Vista so close, I might just leave it till then and get myself an Ultimate Edition box.
Just don't Just don't
Please, expand on any good reasons NOT to get Vista if he's currently running XP?
Reasons not to buy Windows Vista Ultimate? I can think of 399 good reasons not to buy Windows Vista Ultimate. You're going to have to provide some damned good reasons to buy it.

Posted: 2007-01-07 03:00pm
by Ace Pace
Darth Wong wrote: Reasons not to buy Windows Vista Ultimate? I can think of 399 good reasons not to buy Windows Vista Ultimate. You're going to have to provide some damned good reasons to buy it.
While Ultimate is definetly overpriced, if Resinence wants to buy it and considers the added features of Ultimate(primarily the mating of Home and Buisness together) worth it, why not?

The worth of something as related to price is a subjective metric, if he has 400USD to spare on an OS, go ahead.

Posted: 2007-01-07 06:00pm
by InnocentBystander
At this point it wouldn't be wise to buy XP when Vista is pretty much here. Ultimate is likely a bad buy for most, but I think business would be a smart move.

Posted: 2007-01-07 10:41pm
by Resinence
I did have only one core enabled when I installed (Was on fail-safe settings), so that's why it happened.

As for vista, window's only gets used for gaming if Cedega can't run it under Linux, and I want DX10.

Overall, Linux uses the hardware much more effectively than windows ever will, games generally run faster under Cedega, they just don't ALL run and DX10 isn't supported.

As for paying for it, at the moment Vista is a pain in the ass to crack and may be impossible to crack soon enough. Ultimate because I plan to use the added stuff :P

Posted: 2007-01-08 12:36am
by Praxis
Resinence wrote:
As for paying for it, at the moment Vista is a pain in the ass to crack and may be impossible to crack soon enough. Ultimate because I plan to use the added stuff :P
I never got why people bother cracking Windows.

Why don't they just pirate the corporate editions instead of putting so much effort into cracking it?

Posted: 2007-01-08 04:07am
by DaveJB
Resinence wrote:As for paying for it, at the moment Vista is a pain in the ass to crack and may be impossible to crack soon enough. Ultimate because I plan to use the added stuff :P
If you really want Ultimate, make sure you go for an OEM version of it. The price differences I've seen so far between the OEM and retail versions of Vista are pretty stunning.

Posted: 2007-01-08 10:18am
by Resinence
Praxis wrote:
Resinence wrote:
As for paying for it, at the moment Vista is a pain in the ass to crack and may be impossible to crack soon enough. Ultimate because I plan to use the added stuff :P
I never got why people bother cracking Windows.

Why don't they just pirate the corporate editions instead of putting so much effort into cracking it?
Vista Corporate also requires activation, unlike every other previous version.
They are justifying it by giving admins a tool to activate many PC's at once, but you have to redo it every 185 days.

If we get lucky it might drive Corporate Linux adoption, but probably not as most company's have their sensitive data securely locked away in microsucks proprietary formats.

Posted: 2007-01-08 10:21am
by General Zod
Praxis wrote:
Resinence wrote:
As for paying for it, at the moment Vista is a pain in the ass to crack and may be impossible to crack soon enough. Ultimate because I plan to use the added stuff :P
I never got why people bother cracking Windows.

Why don't they just pirate the corporate editions instead of putting so much effort into cracking it?
The same reason people climb really big mountains? It's there and it looks like a challenge.

Posted: 2007-01-08 10:38am
by Arrow
DaveJB wrote:
Resinence wrote:As for paying for it, at the moment Vista is a pain in the ass to crack and may be impossible to crack soon enough. Ultimate because I plan to use the added stuff :P
If you really want Ultimate, make sure you go for an OEM version of it. The price differences I've seen so far between the OEM and retail versions of Vista are pretty stunning.
On the flipside, there's the wording in the OEM EULA preventing you from reinstalling on new hardware, such as when upgrade your motherboard or OS drive. The retail EULA doesn't have this restriction (it only prevents you from running more than one copy at a time). No one knows how strict/lax MS will be about enforcing these terms.

As for me, Home Premium has everything I need (including VPN/Remote Desktop to my work machine) and the retail cost is within my price range, so that's what I'm going after.

Posted: 2007-01-08 11:25am
by Uraniun235
Resinence wrote:If we get lucky it might drive Corporate Linux adoption, but probably not as most company's have their sensitive data securely locked away in microsucks proprietary formats.
Which Linux app can do everything Exchange can?

Posted: 2007-01-08 11:55am
by phongn
Resinence wrote:Vista Corporate also requires activation, unlike every other previous version.
They are justifying it by giving admins a tool to activate many PC's at once, but you have to redo it every 185 days.
The "call-home" activation can be done by a user and not an admin, IIRC (it then becomes a training issue) and I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft let you activate through Group Policy.

Posted: 2007-01-08 12:36pm
by Resinence
I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft let you activate through Group Policy.
Thats how it is done, through group policy IIRC.
As for exchange, in the linux world most times features are added by many separate projects rather than one single gigantic one such as exchange server. This page provides the names of programs that can be used in combination with oGO to provide exchange functionality. But it really comes down to whether the effort of installing a linux server outweighs the cost of an exchange server, and it is simply easier to buy an exchange server than to set up a Linux groupware server. Though really, installing things on linux is damn easy these days.

make a shell script (this is for gentoo, simply because I like gentoo):

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GLIS*
emerge opengroupware
emerge jabber
emerge cyrus
emerge OpenLDAP
The only part that requires actual knowledge of a linux system is setting them up securely.

*GLIS (Gentoo Linux Install Script) allows you to automate the installation of the OS and programs, over multiple machines if needed.

--edit, spelling corrections.

Posted: 2007-01-08 02:14pm
by Praxis
Resinence wrote:
Praxis wrote:
Resinence wrote:
As for paying for it, at the moment Vista is a pain in the ass to crack and may be impossible to crack soon enough. Ultimate because I plan to use the added stuff :P
I never got why people bother cracking Windows.

Why don't they just pirate the corporate editions instead of putting so much effort into cracking it?
Vista Corporate also requires activation, unlike every other previous version.
They are justifying it by giving admins a tool to activate many PC's at once, but you have to redo it every 185 days.

If we get lucky it might drive Corporate Linux adoption, but probably not as most company's have their sensitive data securely locked away in microsucks proprietary formats.
Any chance companies might get really annoyed at that one?