Linux and SSH

Darth Mordius · Post by **Darth Mordius** » 2007-01-24 01:38pm

It's my first post from linux! Just got it up and running on my old celeron 433 (I skipped my breakfast and shower to install linux I'm going to die a virgin aren't I). So Kubuntu is running all fine and dandy (apparently Konquerer doesn't recognize Konquerer or Kubuntu in it's spell checker) and I'm wondering - how do I get an SSH server set up? I've only ever used the front end before, so I'm kind of at a loss here. Any help or tips for a linux newbie would be awesome.

EnsGabe · Post by **EnsGabe** » 2007-01-24 02:43pm

'sudo aptitude install openssh-server' will set you up right and proper.

RThurmont · Post by **RThurmont** » 2007-01-24 03:20pm

Congratulations on your successful install. You're one of about 15 people I've come across in the past two months who has either installed Linux or plans to (including a close relative). Kubuntu is a suprisingly good distro (full disclosure: I'm helping out with the artwork for their next release); you'd think it would be an also ran next to Ubuntu, which gets most of the attention, but Kubuntu is one of the most refined KDE experiences you can have. I wish I could say the same for Xubuntu...

Bounty · Post by **Bounty** » 2007-01-24 03:24pm

You're one of about 15 people I've come across in the past two months who has either installed Linux or plans to (including a close relative).

I blame it on the press coverage for Vista. My paper is running a series on OS'es in the lead-up to the launch, talking about how Linux has been catching up to Windows in terms of user-friendliness. The consensus in the readers' feedback was that the time has never been better to consider the switch.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2007-01-24 04:29pm

Destructionator XIII wrote:
I also personally forward X11 requests through ssh so I can use X programs over the link. This is fun for playing especially, and is done by adding "X11Forwarding yes" (no quotes) to your sshd_config file, then sshing in to the box with ssh -X.

X11Forwarding yes is equivalent to -X, so specifying both is redundant.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2007-01-24 04:38pm

Ah tired

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-01-24 05:21pm

It's entirely possible that he already has SSHD installed, but his distro automatically installed a firewall or strict settings in the /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny files to close external access to it, assuming it's set to autostart.

rhoenix · Post by **rhoenix** » 2007-01-24 05:25pm

Also, make sure you get to know tab-completion. Tab-completion makes *nix very nice.

Basically, type part of a command or directory path and press tab. Extremely useful.

Also, if you use the command line very often, you might want want to consider installing screen, which can be quite handy for doing multiple processes at once.

RThurmont · Post by **RThurmont** » 2007-01-24 11:10pm

I blame it on the press coverage for Vista. My paper is running a series on OS'es in the lead-up to the launch, talking about how Linux has been catching up to Windows in terms of user-friendliness. The consensus in the readers' feedback was that the time has never been better to consider the switch.

Exciting times, indeed. Of course, Linux had darn well better satisfy the expectations of its new userbase, or else it, and FOSS in general, are doomed (but I think it will do well, if my experience and that of my friends is any indication). Linux does have some annoying aspects though, and those need to quickly be addressed.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2007-01-24 11:35pm

Do you guys have anything going for remote desktop from windows machines? I've tried freenx but to no avail.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2007-01-25 12:00am

Destructionator XIII wrote:
Spyder wrote:Do you guys have anything going for remote desktop from windows machines? I've tried freenx but to no avail.
What do you mean? A Windows box connecting to another Windows box or something else?

Connecting from a windows machine into a linux host. I've been having a play with this. I saw this thread and was wondering if anyone else had any better ideas.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2007-01-25 01:31am

Usually some flavor of VNC is used- best implementation of VNC for windows is ultravnc, best one for Linux is realvnc4 I think (for whatever reason, ubuntu defaults to 3 even though 4 is in the repo). Vino (Remote Desktop under System->Preferences) allows you to connect to an existing session though (VNC and NX require you to have a session connectable by remote only), but is significantly slower. NX is the best performing of all of them, but I"ve found freenx flaky. The version from nomachine that you've listed might be better.

Darth Mordius · Post by **Darth Mordius** » 2007-01-25 04:51am

Another problem has been discovered! Alas, my shock is great in it's profundity.

I'm trying to install java. I've got the rpm file, and when I try rpm -i I get
This. Error failed dependencies.

I've check in /bin and I have all of them except basename gawk and sort; I installed gawk and it still shows on the list, and I can't find it in /bin. If I try to install it again it tells my its got the latest version, so I'm pretty sure I have it. I've got no clue why it can't find all the other ones though.

(also, Kubuntu is still apparently misspelled

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von Neufeld · Post by **von Neufeld** » 2007-01-25 06:41am

Darth Mordius wrote:Another problem has been discovered! Alas, my shock is great in it's profundity.

I'm trying to install java. I've got the rpm file, and when I try rpm -i I get
This. Error failed dependencies.

I've check in /bin and I have all of them except basename gawk and sort; I installed gawk and it still shows on the list, and I can't find it in /bin. If I try to install it again it tells my its got the latest version, so I'm pretty sure I have it. I've got no clue why it can't find all the other ones though.

(also, Kubuntu is still apparently misspelled )

Odd.

How about trying to use a .deb package instead of a .rpm?
Hope this page helps:

http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy ... r_Plug-ins

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2007-01-25 08:20am

Enable multiverse under your synaptic preferences, then install sun-java. Not sure how to do it in a GUI fashion on Kubuntu.

Alferd Packer · Post by **Alferd Packer** » 2007-01-25 08:46am

Get Automatix. It makes getting a vanilla (K)ubuntu installation up and running with all sorts of useful software very, very easy.

Darth Mordius · Post by **Darth Mordius** » 2007-01-25 04:51pm

Thanks for the help everyone! Fiddling and/or automatix has fixed pretty much all of my problems. On a related note: samba is pretty cool.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2007-01-25 04:59pm

As a note, don't use RPMs in Kubuntu.

RThurmont · Post by **RThurmont** » 2007-01-25 06:01pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but do .rpms even work in .deb based distros?

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2007-01-25 06:05pm

RThurmont wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but do .rpms even work in .deb based distros?

You can ... it is just an exercise in pain.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2007-01-25 06:58pm

You can use alien to convert rpms to debs. I believe the install scripts and dependency handling breaks though.

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