StarDestroyer.Net BBS

Always happy to be reminded about why I hate them so. Naturally, telling your customers that they're stupid for not buying your terrible product is the best form of marketing

It really is called whatswrongwithu, and if you click the Singapore tab on that link you can see the English version of the campaign.

Here's what the auto-reply email looks like

Well, if they did have a product that was objectively bad outside the mind of a dribbling idiot fanboy, maybe the question would have ironic overtones.

However, since the 360 is a solid product with a solid game lineup, I think it's a valid question.

(Of course, we all know what's wrong with you, so it's rhetorical in your case...)

Hmm, Ps3's sitting in stacks collecting dust at Wal-Mart (and others), a mediocre offering of mediocre games, constant device failures, bad customer service, high price and over hype are definately indicative of a superior product.

Xbox 360's are still selling strong in the U.S. and Europe (not so much), have a metric shit ton of games by compairison, and don't rely on a (insert corporation here) cock sucking fanbase to constantly hype their machine while spitting vitriol at the opposition.

Don't hate Microsoft because they made a great product for once.

PS3 lost. Hard. Live with it.

Incidentally, Japan has registered a great big "meh" over the PS3 as well, and it's only one place above the 360 in the weekly hardware sales charts (5th and 6th respectively), and is shifting less software units weekly as well.

Of course, launching against the "Holy shit it does what with the controller" Wii at twice the price was a pretty much guaranteed way to get a total shoeing. They should have launched worldwide in March, rather than just in Europe, with the scaler issues and HDMI sound issues (reported by Toms Hardware at least) sorted out and a volume of product manufactured.

Oh, I agree, the XBox 360 is one of the best products Microsoft has ever made (doesn't say much at all), but the OP is right that the web site is pretty much calling everyone else stupid

TheMuffinKing wrote:Hmm, Ps3's sitting in stacks collecting dust at Wal-Mart (and others), a mediocre offering of mediocre games, constant device failures, bad customer service, high price and over hype are definately indicative of a superior product.

Xbox 360's are still selling strong in the U.S. and Europe (not so much), have a metric shit ton of games by compairison, and don't rely on a (insert corporation here) cock sucking fanbase to constantly hype their machine while spitting vitriol at the opposition.

Don't hate Microsoft because they made a great product for once.

PS3 lost. Hard. Live with it.

Uhhh...you know I support Nintendo first out of the three platform holders, right? I haven't even bought a PS3 yet.

Vendetta wrote:Well, if they did have a product that was objectively bad outside the mind of a dribbling idiot fanboy, maybe the question would have ironic overtones.

However, since the 360 is a solid product with a solid game lineup, I think it's a valid question.

(Of course, we all know what's wrong with you, so it's rhetorical in your case...)

So everyone who doesn't want a 360 is a 'dribbling idiot fanboy'? Riiiiiiiight. Heaven forbid they simply don't like the games for whatever reason. *I* don't want one, and I have no problem with the console - clearly, I'm a dribbling idiot fanboy.

Of course, YOU have one and YOU love it. But everyone ELSE is a fanboy for NOT wanting one.

Heck, my borther had one and he sold it to a friend of mine, who's enjoying it and supporting it (ie buying all the add-ons) much more than we did. Of course, my brother is getting a PS3 when it comes out here, and I think he's insane.

Vendetta wrote:Incidentally, Japan has registered a great big "meh" over the PS3 as well, and it's only one place above the 360 in the weekly hardware sales charts (5th and 6th respectively), and is shifting less software units weekly as well.

Of course, launching against the "Holy shit it does what with the controller" Wii at twice the price was a pretty much guaranteed way to get a total shoeing. They should have launched worldwide in March, rather than just in Europe, with the scaler issues and HDMI sound issues (reported by Toms Hardware at least) sorted out and a volume of product manufactured.

X360 is still doing worse than the PS3 in Japan?!

If true, who the fuck is still gonna argue for the Japanese consumers not being biased? Based on what? The PS3 is the demonstrable failure yet it's still outpacing the X360 in Japan. It could be by 1000 units, not an object.

The games are more numerous, the system cheaper, the online community and installed base HUGE, (over here at least; I freely admit I'm not armed with the knowledge of how the ping times and actual game playability would be effected. If it's a losing argument then it's just one less point)

Why ever else it's failed in Japan isn't because it's the worst of ALL 3. (if I were Japanese, I'd go for the Wii too, but if I wanted hi-def graphics, I ... can't... reason... for ... the ... PS3)

Someone, please, enlighten me.

edit: I can think of one possible solution thanks to DSY in the chat that doesn't unnecessarily invoke bias.
1. REASONABLE consumers go for the Wii. I'm sure everyone agrees with that.
2. Sony, however bad it may be, in Japan, DOES HAVE A LOYAL FANBOY BASE, and that's what's keeping it above X360.
3. Xbox failed miserably once before, so most people go back to rule 1
4. there isn't a significantly large market specifically revolving around a desire for graphics. Those though that aren't necessarily thinking around a brand but want 1st class graphics, which I realize is small, are the blithering idiots.

Dude, are you just not thinking about what you said? There are plenty of games... they don't like. A huge online playerbase... of Americans. PS3 is probably outselling it solely because it came out recently and the bizarre Sony-love.

I've started seriously considering getting a 360. You know why? Guitar Hero 2 on 360 will let you download the GH1 songs, an impossibility on the PS2 version. You see how that works? A game I actually want, and I think about buying one. The games that kinda interest me would never be enough to make me buy one, and there's only four games I'm even remotely interested in. Clearly, I am a drooling fanboy biased against Microsoft and the 360.

Stark wrote:Dude, are you just not thinking about what you said? There are plenty of games... they don't like. A huge online playerbase... of Americans. PS3 is probably outselling it solely because it came out recently and the bizarre Sony-love.

I've started seriously considering getting a 360. You know why? Guitar Hero 2 on 360 will let you download the GH1 songs, an impossibility on the PS2 version. You see how that works? A game I actually want, and I think about buying one. The games that kinda interest me would never be enough to make me buy one, and there's only four games I'm even remotely interested in. Clearly, I am a drooling fanboy biased against Microsoft and the 360.

The X360's had an ENTIRE YEAR to accumulate games, I realize MOST may not appeal to Japanese but the PS3's got vanishingly less to compare to. I do NOT think you're a drooling fanboy biased against MS and the 360 as my argument is entirely aimed at the Japanese consumers, my reasoning seeks to explain specifically and ONLY them.

That being said, my edit already probably explained it. There really is NO significant market for HD over there, reasonable consumers went Wii (I'm certainly not arguing the X360 against the Wii in Japan) but Sony fanboyism is the tie breaker.

Vendetta wrote:Well, if they did have a product that was objectively bad outside the mind of a dribbling idiot fanboy, maybe the question would have ironic overtones.

You mean like Gundam: Crossfire which Gundam Fans refused to buy a PS3 for despite being loyal Sony Customers and are instead waiting patiently for Gundam: Mobile Ops/Operation Troy for the 360 which is pictured in that letter?

SPC Brungardt wrote:That being said, my edit already probably explained it. There really is NO significant market for HD over there, reasonable consumers went Wii (I'm certainly not arguing the X360 against the Wii in Japan) but Sony fanboyism is the tie breaker.

Naturally, telling your customers that they're stupid for not buying your terrible product is the best form of marketing.

I think I have an alternate theory. Like, with the very basis of this advertising campaign, style of thing. If this isn't a truly radical change(And I've no reason to think it is), perhaps.. Just perhaps.. You're full of it?

SPC Brungardt wrote: If true, who the fuck is still gonna argue for the Japanese consumers not being biased? Based on what? The PS3 is the demonstrable failure yet it's still outpacing the X360 in Japan. It could be by 1000 units, not an object.

I can't speak for Japan, but in my case it's not so much a case of being bias as it is that the PS3's list of titles coming out has more on it than 360 does.

I don't give a fuck about the 360 and MS being better for reason XYZ, if another console has more games I want. When Banpresto and Nippon Ichi start developing for 360, maybe then I'll care enough to buy one. Until then I settle for going to friends flats, same as I do for the Wii.

Stark wrote:Dude, are you just not thinking about what you said? There are plenty of games... they don't like. A huge online playerbase... of Americans. PS3 is probably outselling it solely because it came out recently and the bizarre Sony-love.

But...the 360 has THE iDOLM@STER!!

Sharp-kun wrote:

SPC Brungardt wrote: If true, who the fuck is still gonna argue for the Japanese consumers not being biased? Based on what? The PS3 is the demonstrable failure yet it's still outpacing the X360 in Japan. It could be by 1000 units, not an object.

I can't speak for Japan, but in my case it's not so much a case of being bias as it is that the PS3's list of titles coming out has more on it than 360 does.

I don't give a fuck about the 360 and MS being better for reason XYZ, if another console has more games I want. When Banpresto and Nippon Ichi start developing for 360, maybe then I'll care enough to buy one. Until then I settle for going to friends flats, same as I do for the Wii.

I don't really care about Xbox, but i think its very nice, and i'm mildly interested in the Wii, but i know i hate Sony, not the PS3, necesarily, it's just that they have been fucking their costumers in the ass hard for years and years and they somehow still have a huge amount of cocksucking idiots following their every word (i dont mean everyone who owns a PS3, but god i do know more than a few of this type of people).

So, while i don't care much for Nintendo and MS, i probably will buy a Wii the next time i see one, and might end up buying an Xbox whenever they get yet another AAA title, but i know i will never buy a PS3 no matter what comes out on it, just because i hate Sony.

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:

Stark wrote:Dude, are you just not thinking about what you said? There are plenty of games... they don't like. A huge online playerbase... of Americans. PS3 is probably outselling it solely because it came out recently and the bizarre Sony-love.

But...the 360 has THE iDOLM@STER!!

Wholesome gameplay like this will surely improve the console's reputation

Xisiqomelir wrote:Wholesome gameplay like this will surely improve the console's reputation

WTF?

Xisiqomelir wrote: Wholesome gameplay like this will surely improve the console's reputation

Suddenly 360 is more appealing...

SirNitram wrote:

SPC Brungardt wrote:That being said, my edit already probably explained it. There really is NO significant market for HD over there, reasonable consumers went Wii (I'm certainly not arguing the X360 against the Wii in Japan) but Sony fanboyism is the tie breaker.

Naturally, telling your customers that they're stupid for not buying your terrible product is the best form of marketing.

I think I have an alternate theory. Like, with the very basis of this advertising campaign, style of thing. If this isn't a truly radical change(And I've no reason to think it is), perhaps.. Just perhaps.. You're full of it?

An ad campaign with a stupid message kicked off BECAUSE X360's still got no traction.

Xisiqomelir wrote:

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:

Stark wrote:Dude, are you just not thinking about what you said? There are plenty of games... they don't like. A huge online playerbase... of Americans. PS3 is probably outselling it solely because it came out recently and the bizarre Sony-love.

But...the 360 has THE iDOLM@STER!!

Wholesome gameplay like this will surely improve the console's reputation

oh man that totally wasn't in the videos i saw

Stark wrote: So everyone who doesn't want a 360 is a 'dribbling idiot fanboy'? Riiiiiiiight.

No, but Xisiqomelir is, as evidenced by every single post he has ever made about the PS3 and Xbox 360. Which was my point.

Sharp-kun wrote:

Xisiqomelir wrote: Wholesome gameplay like this will surely improve the console's reputation

Suddenly 360 is more appealing...

sekuhara lawlz
So is this actually coming out in America?

Highly unlikely. It just came out in Japan. Plus there's never really been a mainstream commercial market for J-sims in the US.

Seggybop wrote:So is this actually coming out in America?

You've got more chance of getting a blowjob off the pope.

And this game is region locked. (Most Japanese releases are, though region coding is optional on the 360)