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A report on vista in business

Posted: 2007-03-27 09:59pm
by Lisa
How visa has failed

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Vista - Arrogance & Stupidity

Upgrading to Windows Vista has been banned by the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT), the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), technology giant Texas Instruments and other corporations and government agencies (V1, V10, V11). These organizations are evaluating their options, but overseas it's turning into a stampede to get out of Microsoft software (V15).

School districts in the U.S. are starting to move entirely to Linux rather suffer the cost of upgrading Windows. Examples are the Windsor Unified School District in Northern California and the Bexley, Ohio high school district. Schools making this move have been surprised how easy it is and how much money is saved. (V6, V8)

Leading computer maker HP is reporting "massive deals for Linux desktops" with corporate clients (V4). Runner-up computer maker and long time faithful Microsoft ally Dell has been overwhelmed by demand and has started developing Linux desktop preloads for their notebook and desktop computers (V9).

Even that great bastion of the status quo, the Wall Street Journal, has published an article under the title Linux Starts to Find Home on Desktops (Business Technology, 13 Mar 2007).

Small business and consumer demand for computers with Windows XP is very high, but Microsoft has moved swiftly to make sure they can't get it. No sane person wants Vista, so Microsoft is making sure they have no choice.

It's becoming clear people are going to be holding on to their XP machines as long as they can. Chip manufacturers in particular face a damaging glut of memory and CPU chips because the anticipated Vista upgrade demand isn't materializing. One gigabyte of RAM memory is the practical minimum for Vista (except Home Basic which will run in 500 megabytes).

What went wrong? Basically, Vista was designed with almost no consideration for the needs of Microsoft's customers. James Allchin, co-president of Microsoft's Platform Products and Services Group wrote an internal memo saying that Microsoft had lost touch with customer needs and if he didn't work there he'd buy an Apple Macintosh (V12). Allchin retired the day Vista shipped.

Vista and its companion programs, Office 2007 and Internet Explorer 7, offer precious little Windows users want beyond what's in Windows XP, but plenty they don't want.

A confusing new user interface. Vista actually reduces user productivity according to a consulting firm's study (V7).

Blamed for so many security problems, Microsoft has placed security responsibility right where it doesn't belong, squarely on the shoulders of the average user. Confusing security pop-up dialogs are so common users get used to just hitting "Yes" automatically to everything, including malware.

Most existing software is not compatible with Vista. You will have to purchase upgrades to almost all the software you run and many programs will never be upgraded to Vista.

It's an exercise in frustration to try to upgrade an XP computer to Vista. Few Vista drivers are available except for new devices designed for Vista, and manufacturers don't plan any.

Even many current printers don't have Vista drivers, and many never will. Developing Vista drivers and getting them approved by Microsoft is just too expensive.

Vista is effectively a Windows price increase. Vista Home Basic, shipped with lower cost consumer market computers, is rather minimal, This often forces a $79 upgrade to Home Premium (equivalent to Windows XP Media Center) or Ultimate for $139. Vista's built-in Anytime Upgrade handles that - have your credit card ready. Actually all versions are on the machine but must be "activated".

Vista Activation is a hassle and failure prone, but Microsoft says they'll be turning the screws down even tighter due to rampant piracy already taking place. This does little harm to the pirates, just to legitimate users (V5).

Vista Activation, should it fail or be aborted, phones home to Microsoft with enough details to identify your computer and possibly your location (V3).

Vista's much ballyhooed security has already been shattered in various ways, and Microsoft's One Care, intended to protect Vista from malware, has scored at the very bottom in independent tests of anti-malware programs (V2).

Microsoft's draconian DRM (Digital Rights Management) features not only interfere with your enjoyment of entertainment media you have purchased, but force you to have a much more powerful and expensive machine just to achieve XP level performance (V14).

Windows Update is now mandatory. What's wrong with that? You have no defense against patches that break other stuff. Worse, Microsoft has promised the media moguls they will cripple your computer if any DRM problems are found with your computer's hardware or drivers - this by Windows Update, of course (V14).

Microsoft president Steve Ballmer said Vista was so good a service pack would not be needed. Service Pack 1 went into "critical" development even before Vista's public release at the end of January. There are flaws aplenty.

Why did they do this? Most new features originally planned for Vista were dropped in favor of one: a draconian DRM (Digital Rights Management) scheme. See my editorial Vista - Broken by Design for the details. All other features were of lower priority and the needs of customers were disregarded if they conflicted with DRM.

Microsoft hopes to parlay secure DRM into a monopoly on distribution of so called "premium content". Once they have lured the studios into the deal and established the monopoly they can dictate terms to the studios the way Apple dictated terms to the record companies based on the iPod success, but on a much larger scale.

Microsoft is depending on the unbounded greed of the media moguls to pull this off, but word is the moguls are starting to wonder if DRM is a good idea after all. It is causing them a lot of trouble, has done nothing to stop piracy, and has caused tremendous ill will and bad publicity.

Clearly ill will is of no concern to Microsoft. A recent patent filing reveals they have a whole lot more pain and expense planned for you in the future (V13).

What should Microsoft do? Their most basic mistake is "one size fits all", holding that an entertainment device is equally suited for business. This is now obviously and painfully false. Microsoft should immediately develop a version of Vista for business with DRM completely stripped out. Perhaps they could disable playing of "premium content" entirely if they could do it cleanly - "premium content" has no place on business computers anyway.

Will Microsoft do this? No. Instead they will "stay the course", increasing PR expenditures, working on ways to kill Windows XP to force Vista adoption, and ramping up their misinformation and FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) attacks on Linux to "full rabid" shrillness.

What should you do? Every business should be taking a long hard look at moving to Linux. Yes, there will be costs involved, and employees will gripe initially, but those who have done this find an overall cost savings.

eComStation (formerly IBM's OS/2) is another good alternative for general business, but lacking specialty applications. I find it hard to recommend Apple - applications are limited and it's a closed proprietary environment run by a person of proven greed. It seems like jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

I understand that many small businesses are dependent on specialty software the publishers of which support only Windows - even if it'll actually run on Linux. It's time to start pressuring them for Linux versions and/or support. Remember, there's worse to come (V13).

If you happen to be such a software publisher, it's time for you to take a good hard look at producing Linux versions yourself. Microsoft has already killed a huge segment of the commercial software industry and you are on their list. Sooner or later it's your turn.

- Andrew Grygus

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I've switched to Mac a while back, but I would probably be usint some sort of linux if i didn't have the mac hardware...

Posted: 2007-03-27 11:12pm
by DarkSilver
erm...if your using a MAc...you ARE using a form of Linux....well a Unix based OS anyway.


Overall, the article sounds like alot of scare tactics of it's own...Microsoft generally gives School Districts bulk discounts on upgrades and Windows Software, even passes those same discounts and savings to College Students.

I can walk into most stores around here, and still see XP on the shelf, right alongside the vista Upgrades...so Microsoft isn't trying to phase out XP immediatly.

Hell, the articles makes one stupid point in itself! That Microsoft is trying to force adoption of Vista......well no shit! Vista is the new OS, Vista is their focus, and while I'm sure they won't stop supporting XP anytime soo, why should they try to get you to buy it instead? They did the same thing when 98 came out, when ME came out, and XP was released. It's not unusual, it's not Machiavellian, it's not some insidious measure meant to rip you out of your cold hard cash. It's business.

Posted: 2007-03-27 11:25pm
by atg
DarkSilver wrote:It's not unusual, it's not Machiavellian, it's not some insidious measure meant to rip you out of your cold hard cash. It's business.
Yes, but then its harder for people to make M$ = TEH EVIL!!!11!!! articles, so they'll ignore that.

Posted: 2007-03-28 01:51am
by Beowulf
Of course some government agencies have banned upgrading to Vista. They need to make sure everything they use still works after the upgrade. Same thing happened with XP, IIRC.

Posted: 2007-03-28 02:04am
by Xon
DarkSilver wrote:erm...if your using a MAc...you ARE using a form of Linux....well a Unix based OS anyway.
Wrong.

MAC OSX is a Mach kernel with a BSD kernel <-> user land API. It is as close to a unix varient as Windows is(with it's POSIX layer installed).

Posted: 2007-03-28 02:15am
by RThurmont
MAC OSX is a Mach kernel with a BSD kernel <-> user land API. It is as close to a unix varient as Windows is(with it's POSIX layer installed).
Enh, wrong. Mac OS X has a lot more in common with other UNIX like operating systems than Windows, for better and for worse. Mac OS X is a direct descendant of NextStep and also heavily borrows from BSD. In addition, OS X has a number of standard UNIX applications as part of the default install, and IIRC, can run a large number UNIX apps without difficulty. In fact, if you take the Mach kernel and Quartz out of the equation, you really have what amounts essentially to BSD+some proprietary APIs.

I personally think that the NT architecture is hugely underrated, and is probably the greatest strength of the Windows platform. However, UNIX is also great. Vista's problem isn't the fundamental design of NT, but rather, the obnoxious and repressive restrictions built into the software that severely limit functionality. If you were to take that out of Vista, you would probably have a fairly good OS.

However, since Microsoft almost certainly will not do the above, it makes sense for people to not upgrade, and instead slowly transition to Linux (and *BSD, where appropriate). Then, hopefully Haiku will be ready in a few years time, and that will further reduce the number of Windows users. My hope is that eventually, when Windows marketshare enters the low 30s, Microsoft will be scarred into reforming, and the results of that will be tremendously positive.

Posted: 2007-03-28 02:52am
by phongn
RThurmont wrote:Enh, wrong. Mac OS X has a lot more in common with other UNIX like operating systems than Windows, for better and for worse. Mac OS X is a direct descendant of NextStep and also heavily borrows from BSD. In addition, OS X has a number of standard UNIX applications as part of the default install, and IIRC, can run a large number UNIX apps without difficulty. In fact, if you take the Mach kernel and Quartz out of the equation, you really have what amounts essentially to BSD+some proprietary APIs.
Er, the Mach microkernel and Quartz are rather large sections of OS X (along with Cocoa and Carbon). You might as well say that if you had taken out the NT kernel and threw in the POSIX system you'd have NetBSD + proprietary APIs.
However, since Microsoft almost certainly will not do the above, it makes sense for people to not upgrade, and instead slowly transition to Linux (and *BSD, where appropriate). Then, hopefully Haiku will be ready in a few years time, and that will further reduce the number of Windows users. My hope is that eventually, when Windows marketshare enters the low 30s, Microsoft will be scarred into reforming, and the results of that will be tremendously positive.
This strongly sounds like wishful thinking - especially the part about Haiku! :P

Posted: 2007-03-28 03:56am
by Netko
Sigh, do we have to go through yet another FUD filled article line by line debunking it? I mean, sure I'll do it, but all those issues were gone over in previous threads, and yet, this new article makes, again, the same factually incorrect points as previous ones (for example, Windows update screwing your drivers in the interest of the media companies - its not Windows update, but rather a AACS protected disc with the driver on its revocation list that doesn't allow you to play the content - the driver is never even touched, there are no changes done to it!)

On the other hand, Vista has sold 20 million copies already, surpassing the result of Windows XP in the same period. Yes, there is a bit of cheating involved in that statement, since the computer market has grown in the mean time, however even when that growth is factored in, Vista is selling at least as well as XP in the same period.

Posted: 2007-03-29 01:06am
by Edward Yee
So... basically I really have nothing to worry about regarding either the drivers or the content itself, if the content'd work on an XP computer? (*Wonders whether to really give a damn re: my Express Upgrade thing*)

Posted: 2007-03-29 03:30am
by Netko
Yes, the only new thing is the ability to play certain types of HD content, but for which there exists a way to not allow you to play it or downgrade the quality if your system is not "trusted". It is very important to remember that the driver revocation scheme is only used for that content (and, as said, it doesn't actually do anything to the driver itself, the content protection system honors the list on the disc and disallows playing), which you cannot play at all on XP and earlier (Bluray, HDDVD primarily, possibly versions of WMV in the future).

Don't have the time right now to go through the rest of the bullshit, but if you want, I'll do it later.

Posted: 2007-03-29 02:34pm
by RThurmont
Yes, the only new thing is the ability to play certain types of HD content, but for which there exists a way to not allow you to play it or downgrade the quality if your system is not "trusted". It is very important to remember that the driver revocation scheme is only used for that content (and, as said, it doesn't actually do anything to the driver itself, the content protection system honors the list on the disc and disallows playing), which you cannot play at all on XP and earlier (Bluray, HDDVD primarily, possibly versions of WMV in the future).
Which is complete and utter BS, because the new DRM in effect means that you're handing control over your computer to Microsoft. Also, remember, the driver revocation could just as easily be used to revoke drivers not needed to play the new types of content, and AFAIK there is absolutely no legal mechanism to protect users from unwarranted driver revocation from MS.

I really wish you'd stop being such a retarded pro-MS troll and stop attempting to deceive people in using an operating system that is flawed in every conceivable way.

Posted: 2007-03-29 04:36pm
by Netko
And it would be nice if you started dealing in facts rather then wild theories. What if they revoke drivers not needed to play the new types of content or any other ones? Who gives a damn! Can't you get it - the driver is not modified in any way by being on a revocation list - the protected path (DRM) subsystem, a separate subsystem, doesn't allow playing in full quality of those specific contents if a untrusted (revoked or untrusted for a couple of other reasons) driver is found in the display/sound chain. Thats it! Having a revoked driver doesn't mean that suddenly your display doesn't work or something. Sure, if you like that content (and, as I mentioned a couple of times now, it really is a fucked up system that should be forced to die by consumer non-demand), you probably will want to find a new, non-revoked, version, but other then that you can continue to use it to its full potential.

Really, I'm posting a 3rd or 4th variation of the same basic point here in the 3rd or 4th topic on the subject. Could you please get some facts straight RThurmont, you were involved in all those previous threads.

As for being a MS troll, I'm not, I just don't consider it to be M$. As far as Vista goes in general, I'm moving towards the opinion that most people should wait for SP1 - there are quite a few nice things in there, but there are also signs of a rush job in some parts of the UI (on the performance side, not design), and, in combination with the drivers not being available for a good chunk of stuff or immature, its probably better to wait for the SP1 (supposedly coming somewhere in the fall) for non-technical users. If you are an enthusiast, I still recommend it.

The problem is, the linked article doesn't bring up those concerns (other then drivers where it still engages in speculation to blow up the issue to a level it really doesn't warrant), but rather recycles old discredited half-truths or lies along with a couple of new ones (as has been noted, Vista is not deployed in government because it has yet to pass a security audit by said government, not because its insecure), designed to make a hit piece on Vista.