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Fuckin... just fuckin unbelievabail DVD copyright bullshit
Posted: 2007-04-15 02:17am
by Hamel
The copy of Big Lebowski I just bought from Best Buy will not work in my computer's DVD drive. There's a tiny as shit little symbol on the back of the case with a message saying that this thing is only going to be playable in devices with said symbol on them.
This should be illegal as balls. I don't care if I didn't look for a tiny ass symbol on the back of the DVD case, they are the culprits. These fuckin bastards are sex tourists. They talk about integrity and movie theft while they're making trips to Jamaica to get it on with little kids. Fuck them.
Go to
this page, it has a picture of the symbol you'd need to look for.
Posted: 2007-04-15 03:38am
by Darth Wong
Put it in a nice box along with a heaping pile of dog excrement, and then mail it to the movie studio with a letter of complaint attached.
Posted: 2007-04-15 03:39am
by Praxis
Retarded.
Same thing happened with the Spider-Man soundtrack the family picked up many years ago. It can't even be read in the computer, but plays fine on CD players.
Posted: 2007-04-15 05:30am
by Ford Prefect
And companies think DRM is a good idea. Oh how I laugh at them - this sort of shit makes people extremely goddamn angry.
Posted: 2007-04-15 05:56am
by Medic
Can we get a pic of this tiny symbol?
I'd just like to know, is it a particular company that does it? Certain movies and CD's or... what?
Posted: 2007-04-15 07:31am
by Kane Starkiller
Renting a DVD for a day :$1
Buying and empty DVD-RW: $0.5
Downloading DVD-decrypter: $0
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Sticking it to the man: PRICELESS
Re: Fuckin... just fuckin unbelievabail DVD copyright bullsh
Posted: 2007-04-15 07:38am
by Drooling Iguana
Hamel wrote:The copy of Big Lebowski I just bought from Best Buy will not work in my computer's DVD drive. There's a tiny as shit little symbol on the back of the case with a message saying that this thing is only going to be playable in devices with said symbol on them.
This should be illegal as balls. I don't care if I didn't look for a tiny ass symbol on the back of the DVD case, they are the culprits. These fuckin bastards are sex tourists. They talk about integrity and movie theft while they're making trips to Jamaica to get it on with little kids. Fuck them.
:finger:
Check the BitTorrent sites. You can probably find a working version there.
Praxis wrote:Retarded.
Same thing happened with the Spider-Man soundtrack the family picked up many years ago. It can't even be read in the computer, but plays fine on CD players.
Did you hold in Shift when you put it in the drive?
Posted: 2007-04-15 10:54am
by Arthur_Tuxedo
Just rip it with DVD Decrypter to remove any protection. Unlike the other solutions mentioned, I don't believe that's actually illegal if you bought the thing. Of course, it wouldn't surprise me if it were. If the content industry were in charge, it would be illegal to hold your dick with your left hand when taking a piss.
Re: Fuckin... just fuckin unbelievabail DVD copyright bullsh
Posted: 2007-04-15 11:40am
by Elessar
Hamel wrote:The copy of Big Lebowski I just bought from Best Buy will not work in my computer's DVD drive. There's a tiny as shit little symbol on the back of the case with a message saying that this thing is only going to be playable in devices with said symbol on them.
This should be illegal as balls. I don't care if I didn't look for a tiny ass symbol on the back of the DVD case, they are the culprits. These fuckin bastards are sex tourists. They talk about integrity and movie theft while they're making trips to Jamaica to get it on with little kids. Fuck them.
Can't you just return the DVD? I don't see why you should take this kind of customer treatment.
Re: Fuckin... just fuckin unbelievabail DVD copyright bullsh
Posted: 2007-04-15 11:46am
by General Zod
Elessar wrote:Hamel wrote:The copy of Big Lebowski I just bought from Best Buy will not work in my computer's DVD drive. There's a tiny as shit little symbol on the back of the case with a message saying that this thing is only going to be playable in devices with said symbol on them.
This should be illegal as balls. I don't care if I didn't look for a tiny ass symbol on the back of the DVD case, they are the culprits. These fuckin bastards are sex tourists. They talk about integrity and movie theft while they're making trips to Jamaica to get it on with little kids. Fuck them.
Can't you just return the DVD? I don't see why you should take this kind of customer treatment.
Many stores are anally retentive about DVD return policies and won't let you return or exchange it for anything but the same DVD due to how ridiculously easy they are to pirate.
Posted: 2007-04-15 12:33pm
by Uraniun235
Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:Just rip it with DVD Decrypter to remove any protection. Unlike the other solutions mentioned, I don't believe that's actually illegal if you bought the thing. Of course, it wouldn't surprise me if it were. If the content industry were in charge, it would be illegal to hold your dick with your left hand when taking a piss.
Technically, the DMCA legally forbids 'circumventing encryption to do things with the content that the content provider doesn't want you to do', or something like that. But that's a bullshit law anyway.
Posted: 2007-04-15 02:23pm
by Praxis
Kane Starkiller wrote:Renting a DVD for a day :$1
Buying and empty DVD-RW: $0.5
Downloading DVD-decrypter: $0
-------------------------------------
Sticking it to the man: PRICELESS
It's not encrypted.
IIRC I remember reading that they did something on the beginning of the disk that would make it appear to be corrupted to a computer. I've heard of people bypassing the corrupt CD copy protection using a marker.
Did you hold in Shift when you put it in the drive?
It's not an autorun issue; I tried it on a Mac AND a Windows PC.
Wil people stop suggesting DVD Decrypter? It's not going to help if the computer can't even PLAY the disk; DVD Decrypter lets you RIP it.
Posted: 2007-04-15 03:23pm
by Arthur_Tuxedo
Unless it's got some funky protection I've never encountered, you'll be able play the ripped one.
Posted: 2007-04-15 04:59pm
by Datana
Praxis, that's almost certainly due to a bad TOC (table of contents) -- CDs do this all the time to try and prevent ripping. Even though it seems like your computer won't read it, if you have software that will ignore all TsOC past the first one (the only good one -- subsequent ones report false file sizes and information), it becomes readable (versions of EAC up until 0.95 did this, but the author got a nastygram from some German lawfirm demanding he remove the feature). Or, you can obliterate the bad TOC with a marker (as you had mentioned), but that's only in cases where you know the physical location of the TOC on the disc (some protected CDs have visible grooves when held to the light, and the TOC is on the tail end of the last groove).
Hamel, could you post a scan or photo of the icon and warning in question?
Posted: 2007-04-15 05:43pm
by RThurmont
The problem has now been Slashdotted:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/15/1914248.
I would also like to suggest that mailing Sony dog excrement is
not likely to help the situation.
Posted: 2007-04-15 05:57pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Man, when this picks up wind, I can't imagine the rest of the DVD Forum is going to be happy about it. I wonder how long it'll be until it's reported on The Digital Bits...
Posted: 2007-04-15 06:42pm
by Uraniun235
It's not likely to hurt the situation either.
Posted: 2007-04-15 07:22pm
by Kamakazie Sith
Uraniun235 wrote:
It's not likely to hurt the situation either.
Unless the sender could be potentially charged with a crime of some kind...
Posted: 2007-04-15 07:33pm
by Darth Wong
Kamakazie Sith wrote:Uraniun235 wrote:
It's not likely to hurt the situation either.
Unless the sender could be potentially charged with a crime of some kind...
What crime would that be? Bio-terror?
Maybe I shouldn't laugh; knowing the Bush Administration's combination of asinine "anti-terror" laws and rabid pro-corporatism, that might actually work.
Posted: 2007-04-15 07:34pm
by Hamel
SPC Brungardt wrote:Can we get a pic of this tiny symbol?
I'd just like to know, is it a particular company that does it? Certain movies and CD's or... what?
Check my opening post~ I have it there now~
Posted: 2007-04-15 07:36pm
by Psycho Smiley
Hamel, your picture wants an FTP login before it will display.
Posted: 2007-04-15 07:39pm
by Hamel
Psycho Smiley wrote:Hamel, your picture wants an FTP login before it will display.
My FTP space seems to have gone to shit. Never did that before. Gotta use ol retarded photobucket
edit: Fuck that, go to
this page, it has a picture of the symbol you'd need to look for.
Posted: 2007-04-15 07:50pm
by Darth Wong
Someone should file a class-action lawsuit. It is absolutely ridiculous that the company can pretend that a tiny little "do not copy" symbol is a reasonable warning to the consumer that the disc has been crippled so that it might not play in all DVD players.
In fact, the use of the official DVD logo may be fraudulent in this case. The DVD logo is not just a pretty symbol; it denotes compliance to the DVD standard, and these discs are not in compliance with that standard.
Posted: 2007-04-15 07:52pm
by RThurmont
What (sending excrement) would do would be to reinforce the image that Sony executives doubltess already have about people who are opposed to this kind of DRM, that of them, essentially, being trash. As I see it, only trashy people, and biologists, put excrement in the mail. What we want to be doing is to provide education to executives at companies like Sony as to how applying this kind of DRM infuriates large numbers of mainstream consumers, encourages piracy (since pirated DVDs obviously don't have this problem), and ultimately hurts their business.
Posted: 2007-04-15 07:55pm
by Darth Wong
RThurmont wrote:What (sending excrement) would do would be to reinforce the image that Sony executives doubltess already have about people who are opposed to this kind of DRM, that of them, essentially, being trash. As I see it, only trashy people, and biologists, put excrement in the mail.
If you think Sony is not interested in the "trashy people" demographic, you have obviously not seen
Resident Evil,
Pumpkinhead,
Bad Boys II,
XXX, or
White Chicks, among other fine high-class presentations from Sony Pictures.