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The poll says it all.

Playboy X. I hate self righteous morons.

Playboy X. Dwayne was a nice guy, and Playboy X was a dickhead. Plus, I hated being called "money". I took great pleasure in capping him.

I too killed Playboy X, I considered it from both my perspective as a player (he's a fucking tool) and from Niko's position in the game (Playboy X is a dangerous, arrogant fool, while Dwayne is a guy a lot like him, who he actually has bonded with).

Just a question: Who killed Dwayne and why?

I killed Dwayne. Reason being? He was closer than Playboy at the time.

Niko said Dwayne reminded him of him. That's all I needed to hear.

I killed Playboy, there's been at least two missions after that where I've found his backup to be useful; the one in the museum and when you have to steal a truck loaded with heroin call for the backup while the truck's parked and they'll kill everyone with no reaction, even those two assholes who show up with shotguns.

how does the game play out if you kill dwayne?

and is this going to one of those questions like do you off the little girls in the underwater city?

The Yosemite Bear wrote:and is this going to one of those questions like do you off the little girls in the underwater city?

Nope, I am curious as to how the story gets affected. Obviously you wouldn't get Dwayne's backup thugs, but I'm more concerned with how your interactions with the rest of the characters play out. Is there different dialogue, missions, hideouts?

Also, how are your missions with Packie and Gerald affected if you don't kill Francis?

Killed Playboy largely because I wanted this apartment.

What, I'm just acting in character

Killed the Russian gangster rather than doing the deal because the game had done a good job of making me hate him. I used the rocket launcher to kill him, which led to a pretty funny cut scene of Niko threatening to 'do a guy execution style' with an RPG-7.

TheMuffinKing wrote:how does the game play out if you kill dwayne?

You get $25,000 and Playboy X stops giving you missions.

Oh, and you feel really shitty comparably.

Also, how are your missions with Packie and Gerald affected if you don't kill Francis?

Francis gives you a one-time (I think) call to remove a three-star or below wanted level. That, and there's some dialogue changes in cutscenes when appropriate.

The Yosemite Bear wrote:and is this going to one of those questions like do you off the little girls in the underwater city?

Honestly, what kind of soulless jackoff does that, anyway? Even with a fictional little girl, there are some things you just don't do.

I don't have GTA IV yet, but sounds like I'm going for ventilating Playboy X.

Molyneux wrote: Honestly, what kind of soulless jackoff does that, anyway? Even with a fictional little girl, there are some things you just don't do.

You're wierd. You should get a job on a ratings board, though, where killing a picture of a cute little girl is way worse than killing thousands of people daily in GTA.

Stark wrote:

Molyneux wrote: Honestly, what kind of soulless jackoff does that, anyway? Even with a fictional little girl, there are some things you just don't do.

You're wierd. You should get a job on a ratings board, though, where killing a picture of a cute little girl is way worse than killing thousands of people daily in GTA.

Hey, GTA is cartoonish-level violence. Bioshock is fantastic, but those were some damn realistic little girls...and it's kind of odd how you said "killing a picture of a cute little girl", and not "killing thousands of pictures of people daily in GTA". None of whom are little girls, pictorial or otherwise.

No, they weren't realistic. They weren't even real, and they weren't 'little girls' at all, but biological machines like everyone else in the game. Someone isn't sick for powering up in a videogame.

But yeah, I left out the second 'picture'. By 'picture' I meant fake, as in 'in game' little girls and people, but leaving out the second 'picture' made it not make sense, sorry.

Molyneux wrote:

Stark wrote:

Molyneux wrote: Honestly, what kind of soulless jackoff does that, anyway? Even with a fictional little girl, there are some things you just don't do.

You're wierd. You should get a job on a ratings board, though, where killing a picture of a cute little girl is way worse than killing thousands of people daily in GTA.

Hey, GTA is cartoonish-level violence. Bioshock is fantastic, but those were some damn realistic little girls...and it's kind of odd how you said "killing a picture of a cute little girl", and not "killing thousands of pictures of people daily in GTA". None of whom are little girls, pictorial or otherwise.

Whoa whoa, GTA has more cartoonish violence than Bioshock? I didn't see Niko shooting man-eating bees out his arm and blasting people with his force lightning skills. I must be communicating to you through a hole in space-time which leads to a universe of opposites. Is Al Gore President over there?

Stark wrote:No, they weren't realistic. They weren't even real, and they weren't 'little girls' at all, but biological machines like everyone else in the game. Someone isn't sick for powering up in a videogame.

But yeah, I left out the second 'picture'. By 'picture' I meant fake, as in 'in game' little girls and people, but leaving out the second 'picture' made it not make sense, sorry.

...huh? I was under the impression that they were actual, modified little girls. You're saying they're not? Why the hell do they look like that, then?

Molyneux wrote:

Stark wrote:No, they weren't realistic. They weren't even real, and they weren't 'little girls' at all, but biological machines like everyone else in the game. Someone isn't sick for powering up in a videogame.

But yeah, I left out the second 'picture'. By 'picture' I meant fake, as in 'in game' little girls and people, but leaving out the second 'picture' made it not make sense, sorry.

...huh? I was under the impression that they were actual, modified little girls. You're saying they're not? Why the hell do they look like that, then?

They were real children. Audio diaries confirm this.

Molyneux wrote: ...huh? I was under the impression that they were actual, modified little girls. You're saying they're not? Why the hell do they look like that, then?

They were real in the game, but they weren't, y'know, real.

Ohma wrote:

Molyneux wrote: ...huh? I was under the impression that they were actual, modified little girls. You're saying they're not? Why the hell do they look like that, then?

They were real in the game, but they weren't, y'know, real.

Yes, thank you, I think I realized that.

My friend decided not to kill Dwayne's Ex, so when he got her missions he said Niko said something along the lines of he wished he hadn't killed Dwayne.

Molyneux wrote: Yes, thank you, I think I realized that.

I didn't doubt that, you did however seem to be under the impression that Stark was saying that they didn't count as little girls in game.

Ohma wrote:I didn't doubt that, you did however seem to be under the impression that Stark was saying that they didn't count as little girls in game.

I actually was; little girls don't eat people and magically produce super juice. I have great difficulty caring about them as carefree human children just because they look and sound like them. I can't imagine taking a game so seriously as to think someone is 'sick' for killing them ingame. They're a part of the ecology, and killing them is no more heinous than killing the other freaks in the city. Unless you buy into the 'oh noes think of the children' heart-string plucking, which obviously I don't.

Frankly I think killing the big guys is meaner; they're just mindless slaves to the little girl's magic powers.