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Yahtzee goes after gaming web-comics
Posted: 2008-07-03 05:14am
by Vympel
Ctrl-Alt-Del Online, specifically
Though he doesn't mention it, CAD Online is the
only webcomic that recently had an entirely unfunny plotline about the main character's g/f having a miscarriage - and in one previous review, he singled them out (albeit briefly) for having way too much text in their comics - which is quite frankly so fucking true.
In any event, Penny Arcade is the only comic I find more or less consistently funny lately. For example, CAD jumped the shark ages ago, and VG Cats never made much sense at all.
Posted: 2008-07-03 05:44am
by SilverWingedSeraph
Yahtzee's hatred of CAD is well documented. Just scroll down to "23/3/08: You Cad". That said, though, I've been expecting this for a while. Ever since I read one of Yahtzee's posts in a thread on SA Forums, where I believe he said something along the lines of "I'm tempted to stretch the the term 'videogame review' just far enough to include CAD". Looks like he finally got around to doing so, even if he didn't mention it by name, this time.
Oh, he also once trashed out CAD in a Gamespot interview, though I don't have the link handy.
Seriously, he really hates CAD.
Posted: 2008-07-03 06:11am
by 18-Till-I-Die
I was typing out a well thought out response to why both of these guys are idiots but then i realized that AVGN already did a brilliant parody of this with Nastalgia Critic and Captain S, building over several "episodes" before climaxing in a mock fight in a parking lot.
Taste the rainbow
Now that's comedy.
Re: Yahtzee goes after gaming web-comics
Posted: 2008-07-03 06:26am
by PeZook
Vympel wrote:
Though he doesn't mention it, CAD Online is the only webcomic that recently had an entirely unfunny plotline about the main character's g/f having a miscarriage - and in one previous review, he singled them out (albeit briefly) for having way too much text in their comics - which is quite frankly so fucking true.
I liked it when it started, with Ethan pissing himself etc.
Of course, he just
had to take himself seriously. Then again, I generally hate it when CAD tries to do love. Actually, I hate it when webcomics
in general try to do love. It's almost always pure nerdwank.
I'll listen to the review when I get home from work
Posted: 2008-07-03 07:35am
by Resinence
18 has no taste
I liked it, despite how hypocritical it was of Yahtzee to do such a review, Tim Buckley deserves every bit of shit he gets in my opinion, what a fucktard.
Posted: 2008-07-03 07:38am
by 18-Till-I-Die
Resinence wrote:18 has no taste
Thats because i lost my tongue in eBaum's War, sonny, so show some respect.
Posted: 2008-07-03 08:18am
by Zixinus
I liked it, despite how hypocritical it was of Yahtzee to do such a review
Yahtzee did webcomics but quit it after he made a few realiziations. He speaks from experience, not hypocrisity. His hatred wasn't just aimed at CAD but allot of webcomics in general.
Let's face it, allot of webcomics are shitty and even more waste of time then regular comics. There are a few out there that are genuinely worth reading but these are far and few between.
The best webcomics I've read are good enough to be actually sold or failed to sell for some reason. Some webcomics are actually industry rejects. Some are done purely for their value of fun. For a time I've actually followed one that was so shitty that I followed it to see where the trainwreck would roll and surprises of surprises: from one cliche to another.
Posted: 2008-07-03 09:54am
by Molyneux
Say what you like about CAD, the City of Heroes fan-comic he did was, for the most part, great. And the proposal via high-scores was both horribly nerdy and very, very sweet.
Posted: 2008-07-03 11:38am
by Cycloneman
I believe Stark said it best:
Stark wrote:How original.
Oh, wait. It's 2008, isn't it?
Seriously folks, making fun of comics on the internet is
really old.
Posted: 2008-07-03 11:41am
by General Zod
Does Yahtzee slam Megatokyo at all? (Can't watch the video while at work). Because it's really impossible to bash webcomics without slamming this piece of self-indulgent otaku pandering shit. Which for some reason has a massive fanbase despite going nowhere and being little more than a string of lame cliches strung together.
Posted: 2008-07-03 11:43am
by loomer
Megatokyo was good when Largo was still the spirit of random, rather than a proper character.
Posted: 2008-07-03 11:57am
by Alferd Packer
I have never laughed harder in my life than I did at the image of the miscarriage Yahtzee made, especially because of the "THIS IS THE WORST IMAGE I HAVE EVER MADE AND I HATE MYSELF" overlaid on it.
Posted: 2008-07-03 12:19pm
by phongn
General Zod wrote:Does Yahtzee slam Megatokyo at all? (Can't watch the video while at work). Because it's really impossible to bash webcomics without slamming this piece of self-indulgent otaku pandering shit. Which for some reason has a massive fanbase despite going nowhere and being little more than a string of lame cliches strung together.
Some of his rant would easily apply to Megatokyo, yes.
Posted: 2008-07-03 12:30pm
by wautd
Well that was funny.
*Bookmarked*
Posted: 2008-07-03 01:34pm
by CaptainChewbacca
18-Till-I-Die wrote:Resinence wrote:18 has no taste
Thats because i lost my tongue in eBaum's War, sonny, so show some respect.
Alright, THAT was hilarious. Well done.
Posted: 2008-07-03 03:48pm
by Uraniun235
loomer wrote:Megatokyo was good when Largo was still the spirit of random, rather than a proper character.
nope, sorry, Megatokyo has always sucked
Posted: 2008-07-03 04:10pm
by weemadando
To put on the tin-foil hat for a minute, does anyone else find it amusing that Mr Buckley has pulled down the CAD forums the very day that he gets horrifically lambasted by a very popular commentator?
Posted: 2008-07-03 06:20pm
by Uraniun235
I don't think there's anything tinfoil about that at all, he has an established pattern of avoiding or rejecting negative feedback and being a total douchebag in general. It's entirely plausible that he would rather have his forums down for a day or two or three than have people chattering about Yahtzee's thinly-veiled attack on his pile of shit.
Posted: 2008-07-03 06:30pm
by Odin
CAD is not the best webcomic on the net, but I like it. It has a good story.
And I'm confused, when did he make a joke about abortions? I must of missed that.
Posted: 2008-07-03 07:20pm
by Hotfoot
You're very confused. The criticism is that Buckley went from "LOL ZANY" to "SERIOUS BUSINESS MISCARRIAGE!"
Abortion had nothing to do with it.
Posted: 2008-07-03 07:53pm
by Odin
Hotfoot wrote:You're very confused. The criticism is that Buckley went from "LOL ZANY" to "SERIOUS BUSINESS MISCARRIAGE!"
Abortion had nothing to do with it.
Yahtzee implied Buckley was trying to make light of abortions, when he was doing nothing of the sort.
I admit, jumping to Lillah suddenly having an abortion was... unconventional? That the right word? But if he really has all this planned, and he really meant to do that and it wasn't a spur of the moment, "I needz some drama," it's his comic, his story. He might of lost some readers, but anybody who would really leave because of something overall trivial like that had no business reading it in the first place.
Posted: 2008-07-03 08:04pm
by Vaporous
Cycloneman wrote:I believe Stark said it best:
Stark wrote:How original.
Oh, wait. It's 2008, isn't it?
Seriously folks, making fun of comics on the internet is [url=http://www.somethingawful.co*/d/guides/guide-creating-your.php]really old[/url].
I remember when everyone said they liked this because it was a new concept, just like how originality and quality are basically the same thing.
Oh, wait. I don't, because neither of those things is true, you ass.
Posted: 2008-07-03 08:06pm
by Zixinus
Yahtzee implied Buckley was trying to make light of abortions, when he was doing nothing of the sort.
I admit, jumping to Lillah suddenly having an abortion was... unconventional? That the right word? But if he really has all this planned, and he really meant to do that and it wasn't a spur of the moment, "I needz some drama," it's his comic, his story. He might of lost some readers, but anybody who would really leave because of something overall trivial like that had no business reading it in the first place.
And that is the sort of logic which is why CAD sucks or even why allot of webcomics sucks.
Posted: 2008-07-03 08:13pm
by Vaporous
Odin wrote:Hotfoot wrote:You're very confused. The criticism is that Buckley went from "LOL ZANY" to "SERIOUS BUSINESS MISCARRIAGE!"
Abortion had nothing to do with it.
Yahtzee implied Buckley was trying to make light of abortions, when he was doing nothing of the sort.
I admit, jumping to Lillah suddenly having an abortion was... unconventional? That the right word? But if he really has all this planned, and he really meant to do that and it wasn't a spur of the moment, "I needz some drama," it's his comic, his story. He might of lost some readers, but anybody who would really leave because of something overall trivial like that had no business reading it in the first place.
1) Miscarriage
does not equal Abortion.
2) The video makes it clear that he is
not saying he was making light of miscarriages. His complaint is that its a jarringly hilarious change of tone done in such a way that it makes a mockery of the situation thanks to hilarious melodrama.
Posted: 2008-07-03 08:20pm
by Odin
Zixinus wrote:
Yahtzee implied Buckley was trying to make light of abortions, when he was doing nothing of the sort.
I admit, jumping to Lillah suddenly having an abortion was... unconventional? That the right word? But if he really has all this planned, and he really meant to do that and it wasn't a spur of the moment, "I needz some drama," it's his comic, his story. He might of lost some readers, but anybody who would really leave because of something overall trivial like that had no business reading it in the first place.
And that is the sort of logic which is why CAD sucks or even why allot of webcomics sucks.
It'd be the same thing if you quit playing a game because one of your favorite characters got killed off. Like Mass Effect *spoilers for Mass Effect, Final Fantasy 7, Star Wars, Eragon, and GTA IV*When Ashley or Kaidan and maybe Wrex get killed on Virmire, or when Aeris dies, or Brom in Eragon, or Obi-Wan Kenobi, or Roman/Kate in GTA IV. All of them more established characters than this unnamed child, and I highly doubt many people quit playing/watching/reading because of these characters dying.