OH GOD, HOT (DoW2 cinematic)

Feil · Post by **Feil** » 2008-07-14 11:14pm

Behold!

WH40k: Dawn of War II cinematic

I bring you good tidings of great joy.

White Haven · Post by **White Haven** » 2008-07-14 11:33pm

Good: Shit breaks.

Good: No fucking 'lulzorks' this trailer.

Mediocre: Marines seem a bit underwhelming.

Bad: Eldar chick who looks more or less human, very lame death animation, especially from the relatively minor-looking cut (in 40k terms).

Question: Patterns in the sky...Chaos or Tyranids? Curiousity-inducing.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2008-07-14 11:33pm

"This planet is OURS!"
"Nnno...this planet is theirs..."

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2008-07-15 12:10am

It's got to be 'Nids.

Also: Fuck yeah. I think it lacks the sheer in-your-face awesomeness of the original and the gravitas of Mark of Chaos, but I'm glad they continued with the full CGI movies.

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2008-07-15 01:05am

Wow. This is way cool.

But seriously, a squad of Space Marines don't even have a possibility of being taken out by banshees.

If it is the Nid's (and it has to be, because there is no-one left if I recall), does that mean they finally figured out how they would work, or are they just going to pull this off to get new content for the game?

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2008-07-15 01:12am

With the revamped mechanics and CoH's engine, 'Nids can be done a lot easier. The original engine was, let's face it, pretty shitty. It didn't even do Guard well.

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2008-07-15 02:59am

Yh...

Marines are just as tactically inept as in the original DoW intro.

The dialogue is horrible.

And...minor cut? Her fucking chest was slashed open!

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2008-07-15 04:17am

Marines were pretty inept compared to fluff, but it didn't matter. The trailer still rocked immensely.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2008-07-15 04:21am

Brother-Captain Gaius wrote:With the revamped mechanics and CoH's engine, 'Nids can be done a lot easier. The original engine was, let's face it, pretty shitty. It didn't even do Guard well.

No way, it's impossible just like how fans have been saying based on nothing for years.

Does the trailer even hint at new gameplay elements, or is it totally useless?

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2008-07-15 04:24am

Shinova wrote:Marines were pretty inept compared to fluff, but it didn't matter. The trailer still rocked immensely.

To be honest, the Eldar were just as stupid, too.

"Oh let's charge into hand to hand combat against genetically engineered supermen when our ranged weapons can penetrate their armor like tissue paper."

Yeah...

Fingolfin_Noldor · Post by **Fingolfin_Noldor** » 2008-07-15 04:27am

The cinematic was underwhelming like hell.

Like, what happened to squads and what not? All dead? A lone Eldar Ranger? Argh.. And then the Space Marine Squad Captain went all gung ho and charged alone....

At least there was plenty of blood. Nothing much more than that.

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2008-07-15 05:39am

PeZook wrote:
Shinova wrote:Marines were pretty inept compared to fluff, but it didn't matter. The trailer still rocked immensely.
To be honest, the Eldar were just as stupid, too.

"Oh let's charge into hand to hand combat against genetically engineered supermen when our ranged weapons can penetrate their armor like tissue paper."

Yeah...

That's what 40k denizens do though. It's not comparatively stupid when you look at the fifty zillion other humanoids in the galaxy.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2008-07-15 05:49am

Zablorg wrote:
PeZook wrote:
Shinova wrote:Marines were pretty inept compared to fluff, but it didn't matter. The trailer still rocked immensely.
To be honest, the Eldar were just as stupid, too.

"Oh let's charge into hand to hand combat against genetically engineered supermen when our ranged weapons can penetrate their armor like tissue paper."

Yeah...
That's what 40k denizens do though. It's not comparatively stupid when you look at the fifty zillion other humanoids in the galaxy.

Not to mention that Eldar are massively superior to normal humans. (Normal Eldar are supposed to be faster than a marine, if not as strong, and nowhere near as tough. Eldar commanders/Heroes can beat the tar out of Marines (Exarchs, right?)). And that's ignoing the funky psychic ones.
Of course, that's what Librarians are for

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2008-07-15 05:59am

DEATH wrote: Not to mention that Eldar are massively superior to normal humans. (Normal Eldar are supposed to be faster than a marine, if not as strong, and nowhere near as tough. Eldar commanders/Heroes can beat the tar out of Marines (Exarchs, right?)). And that's ignoing the funky psychic ones.
Of course, that's what Librarians are for

Erm...they're supposedly faster and very, very skilled, but they're also rather frail and their numbers are severely limited.

Charging into hand-to-hand against Marines basically means they're throwing away all of their advantages (psychic shit, powerful ranged weapons, stealth, sensors), and making the playing field more even for the Marines (in hand-to-hand, grace and speed doesn't matter as much as raw, brute strenght)

Also, why didn't that Ranger shoot the sergeant first? The motherfucking idiot didn't even wear his helmet, making him the obvious target for a sniper.

Zablorg wrote: That's what 40k denizens do though. It's not comparatively stupid when you look at the fifty zillion other humanoids in the galaxy. Laughing

Well, yeah. It's just that the Eldar of all people should really know better

After all, the Orks are just idiot football hooligans, the Marines are crazy fanatics who often do stuff out of religious reasons and only survive because of hi-tech armor and implants, and the Guard likes to give officers swords, but rarely has use for them, favoring old-fashioned artillery and massed firepower.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2008-07-15 06:44am

It was rather killy - so yay!

But I thought the Blood Ravens were superbestfriends with the Eldar, since Captain Gabriel Angelos was... like, his mother was an Eldar and his father was a Chapter Master, and so he went into the Black Library and borrowed books even though his Black Library Card was expired, and Inquisitor Toth was like a Chaos Magical Negro?

Oh wait, that's just C.S. Gotto's shit everyone ignores

Mang, that Eldar witch's breasts bled!

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2008-07-15 06:53am

Shroom Man 777 wrote: But I thought the Blood Ravens were superbestfriends with the Eldar, since Captain Gabriel Angelos was... like, his mother was an Eldar and his father was a Chapter Master, and so he went into the Black Library and borrowed books even though his Black Library Card was expired, and Inquisitor Toth was like a Chaos Magical Negro?

You can get into the Black Library with an expired card?

And you've made the fundamental assumption which doomed countless Imperial worlds. Say it with me:

You can't be friends with the Eldar

I mean, dude. Would you really befriend somebody who kept calling you a stinking monkey?

EDIT: Oh, BTW, do Eldar really speak as if they wear buckets on their heads all the time? I though it was the helmets...

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2008-07-15 07:37am

PeZook wrote:
Erm...they're supposedly faster and very, very skilled, but they're also rather frail and their numbers are severely limited.

Charging into hand-to-hand against Marines basically means they're throwing away all of their advantages (psychic shit, powerful ranged weapons, stealth, sensors), and making the playing field more even for the Marines (in hand-to-hand, grace and speed doesn't matter as much as raw, brute strenght)

They were Howling Banshees. They have pistols that are worth slightly better than jack shit against power armour, stunning banshee howls from their masks, and power weapons that will slice through power armour. They're one of the few people for whom going HTH against marines makes sense.

The cinematic was full of stupid stuff, but that bit made sense.

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2008-07-15 07:53am

Imperial Overlord wrote: They were Howling Banshees. They have pistols that are worth slightly better than jack shit against power armour, stunning banshee howls from their masks, and power weapons that will slice through power armour. They're one of the few people for whom going HTH against marines makes sense.

Their gear makes them actually have a chance in hth, but if the Eldar actually ambushed the Marines (they had a farseer ; they had to know they were coming,from where and in what numbers) they could 've cut the entire squad down in seconds with their ranged weapons, rather than risk themelves in hth combat.

Not to mention that Warp Spider charged straight at a Marine as well just to show off that he can warp a meter to the side

Siege · Post by **Siege** » 2008-07-15 08:14am

Maybe it's just me but I really hate these "stuff stumbles onto the scene" cinematics where unit B only enters the fray when unit A has been defeated. It just makes no sense. What was the Warp Spider waiting for? And what the hell took that Dreadnought so long? Were they just enjoying the sight of their comrades-in-arms being slaughtered by the OPFOR or something?

DarthShady · Post by **DarthShady** » 2008-07-15 08:18am

Awesome.

It has to be the Tyranids. Has to be. *shakes fist*

At least I hope so.

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2008-07-15 08:18am

SiegeTank wrote:And what the hell took that Dreadnought so long? Were they just enjoying the sight of their comrades-in-arms being slaughtered by the OPFOR or something?

It had to sneak up on the Space Elves ; When you're a huge walking warfighting machine, it can be tricky not to step on any dry twigs

[R_H] · Post by **[R_H]** » 2008-07-15 08:24am

Ooo, BBQd Eldar.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2008-07-15 08:28am

Venerable Brother Rockgroin was an esteemed Space Marine who trained the Chapter's Scouts in the art of stealth and surprise! Despite being stomped on by a Squiggoth, he was able to survive in the hellish jungles of Phungus-4 until reinforcements came to finish off the greenskins! For his heroism and his harrowing tale of persevering with nary an intact bone left in his body, he was interned in one of the sanctified Dreadnought sacrophagi! Despite his armored shell, he is still one of the sneakiest of the Blood Ravens and leads entire squads of Scout Marines in covert action!

The only thing many a heretic and xeno hear before Venerable Brother Rockgroin disposes of them is the sound of their torsos exploding from an unseen blow from his powerfist!

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2008-07-15 09:04am

PeZook wrote:
Their gear makes them actually have a chance in hth, but if the Eldar actually ambushed the Marines (they had a farseer ; they had to know they were coming,from where and in what numbers) they could 've cut the entire squad down in seconds with their ranged weapons, rather than risk themelves in hth combat.

Not necessarily. Farseers aren't omniscient and being focused on the presumed 'Nid invasion would make Marines even easier to over look.

Not to mention that Warp Spider charged straight at a Marine as well just to show off that he can warp a meter to the side

Notice I didn't defend that bit, although Warp Spider ranged weapons aren't that good against power armour.

Jaevric · Post by **Jaevric** » 2008-07-15 12:57pm

Admittedly, some of the stuff in the trailer was stupid, but damned if I'm not still excited about this game. Tyranids or no Tyranids. Besides, nothing in that trailer was any worse than the trailer for the first one -- "Look, let's leave our dug-in position to charge an Ork horde -- when they're on a ridgeline and we don't know exactly how many of the green bastards there are, and disregarding the fact that Orks are a melee-oriented army and lousy shots! FOR THE EMPEROR!"