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Nintendo DS WiFi
Posted: 2008-07-22 07:27pm
by Ender
Ok, Playing on WiFi was never an issue on the ship because there was no network. Now I'm trying to play, but the DS only supports the obsolete WEP security encryption. I looked into getting the WiFi USB dongle, but Nintendo has discontinued selling them. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there another producer out there that makes something that can replace it? Does anyone know a place selling them cheap online (Amazon is asking $70.00 for a used one)? How about another work around?
Posted: 2008-07-22 08:39pm
by KhyronTheBackstabber
You should check out Wal-mart, Best Buy, or Target.
The stores around here still sell the Wifi connector, even though they've been discontinued.
Posted: 2008-07-22 09:47pm
by Mad
You can look for a router that supports AOSS. I picked up a Buffalo "Wi-Fi Gamers Gaming Access Point" from Circuit City and it works well (works for other gaming systems, as well). I hear the one I got has been discontinued due to patent issues, but I've seen other routers that support AOSS.
Re: Nintendo DS WiFi
Posted: 2008-07-22 09:50pm
by Stark
Ender wrote:Ok, Playing on WiFi was never an issue on the ship because there was no network. Now I'm trying to play, but the DS only supports the obsolete WEP security encryption. I looked into getting the WiFi USB dongle, but Nintendo has discontinued selling them. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there another producer out there that makes something that can replace it? Does anyone know a place selling them cheap online (Amazon is asking $70.00 for a used one)? How about another work around?
Any USB dongle will work, not just Nintendo ones, and the Nintendo ones were arguably terrible. Just get any $15 dongle and you should be fine.
Posted: 2008-07-22 10:19pm
by phongn
Mad wrote:You can look for a router that supports AOSS. I picked up a Buffalo "Wi-Fi Gamers Gaming Access Point" from Circuit City and it works well (works for other gaming systems, as well). I hear the one I got has been discontinued due to patent issues, but I've seen other routers that support AOSS.
AOSS doesn't do a thing if you set your router in to WPA or WPA2, IIRC. It's ridiculous that Nintendo doesn't update the NDS (firmware, or whatever) since WPA1 is a relatively easy fix to implement.
Re: Nintendo DS WiFi
Posted: 2008-07-22 11:34pm
by Laird
Ender wrote:Ok, Playing on WiFi was never an issue on the ship because there was no network. Now I'm trying to play, but the DS only supports the obsolete WEP security encryption. I looked into getting the WiFi USB dongle, but Nintendo has discontinued selling them. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there another producer out there that makes something that can replace it? Does anyone know a place selling them cheap online (Amazon is asking $70.00 for a used one)? How about another work around?
I have one of the dongles, I never use it. It is just sitting in the box with the software. $40?
Re: Nintendo DS WiFi
Posted: 2008-07-23 01:00am
by Ender
Laird wrote:Ender wrote:Ok, Playing on WiFi was never an issue on the ship because there was no network. Now I'm trying to play, but the DS only supports the obsolete WEP security encryption. I looked into getting the WiFi USB dongle, but Nintendo has discontinued selling them. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there another producer out there that makes something that can replace it? Does anyone know a place selling them cheap online (Amazon is asking $70.00 for a used one)? How about another work around?
I have one of the dongles, I never use it. It is just sitting in the box with the software. $40?
Dang, an hour ago you would have been good. I just bought a generic online. I'll remember this if it doesn't work though, ok?
Re: Nintendo DS WiFi
Posted: 2008-07-29 01:54pm
by Laird
Ender wrote:Laird wrote:Ender wrote:Ok, Playing on WiFi was never an issue on the ship because there was no network. Now I'm trying to play, but the DS only supports the obsolete WEP security encryption. I looked into getting the WiFi USB dongle, but Nintendo has discontinued selling them. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there another producer out there that makes something that can replace it? Does anyone know a place selling them cheap online (Amazon is asking $70.00 for a used one)? How about another work around?
I have one of the dongles, I never use it. It is just sitting in the box with the software. $40?
Dang, an hour ago you would have been good. I just bought a generic online. I'll remember this if it doesn't work though, ok?
Works for me.
Posted: 2008-07-29 07:29pm
by Pu-239
Besides, it's annoying finding Buffalo routers in the US w/o ebay, due to litigation against them.
DD-WRT supports multiple VAPs, don't know if they can have different encryption settings- probably murders performance.
My ASUS p5b mobo has builtin wifi w/ a soft-AP mode on Windows and Linux.
If you're using Linux, many cards have a master mode which will allow them to work as an access point (AFAIK, this works w/ realtek, ralink, broadcom and atheros chipsets, unfortunately not Intel).
Look at here
http://wiki.pocketheaven.com/Ralink_Soft_AP for cards that have a soft-AP mode
I believe the Nintendo wifi adapter also uses a ralink chip, so w/ the appropriately edited inf files you might be able to use that as a regular soft-AP usable w/ anything like that wiki link indicates, or a regular wifi adapter.
Isn't the wifi software embedded in the game carts and not the DS itself?
Posted: 2008-07-29 07:32pm
by Stark
The device itself has wireless functions, so there'd have to be something at the device level. The carts might be different, though.
Posted: 2008-08-01 04:37pm
by Ender
God fucking dammit, I got a dongle, a NB XG-703 Wireless LAN USB Adapter, but Vista won't work with it. Suggestions?
Posted: 2008-08-01 04:41pm
by Bounty
Ender wrote:God fucking dammit, I got a dongle, a NB XG-703 Wireless LAN USB Adapter, but Vista won't work with it. Suggestions?
Where does it go wrong? Installing the connection software, installing the driver, getting a connection?
Posted: 2008-08-01 04:42pm
by Ender
Bounty wrote:Ender wrote:God fucking dammit, I got a dongle, a NB XG-703 Wireless LAN USB Adapter, but Vista won't work with it. Suggestions?
Where does it go wrong? Installing the connection software, installing the driver, getting a connection?
The company only sent the dongle, not the drivers. So I clicked for it to go online and find them, and then Vista said they were incompatible.
Posted: 2008-08-01 04:48pm
by Bounty
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http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/system ... wnload.jsp
This is Nintendo's shitty connection software, which comes with drivers for the original dongle; I
think it should work with all cards based on the same chipset. Mind you, it does a number on your network settings.
Posted: 2008-08-02 12:39pm
by Ender
Every time I try to install that it freezes, goes Not Responding, and I have to ctrl-alt-del to close it. Any other thoughts?
Posted: 2008-08-02 03:00pm
by Bounty
It's not supposed to do that... truth be told, the connection software is a hackish POS that I never got to work right. It *should* be Vista compatible, so that's not the problem, I think...
What brand is the wifi card? I don't recognise "NB".
Posted: 2008-08-04 07:42am
by Pu-239
You can stick Linux on a virtual machine (Try virtualbox), set up the the VM to pass USB devices to the OS inside the VM, and make Linux control it as an access point
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You probably could do the same w/ WinXP in the virtual machine, w/ the nintendo drivers.
*depending on how much you get paid, may or may not be worth your time vs just buying a second router.
Posted: 2008-08-04 07:52am
by Pu-239
Some googling indicates it has a realtek chipset.
Asus did use it for the wireless on the p5b deluxe/wifi-ap, which has an ap mode, so you can try downloading the wifi drivers for that mobo and forcing the wireless device to work w/ those drivers (hint, use update drivers, have disk, and select it manually, I think; last time I forced drivers to work like this was w/ Win2k- otherwise some ini file twiddling will have to be done, like the trick w/ the gigabyte drivers and ralink chips).
Posted: 2008-08-04 09:02am
by Bounty
Would any card with AP functionality work? Back when I was trying to get my DS online it only worked with cards based on an rt2500 chipset, the same as the original Buffalo card they used to make the official dongles.