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It is Dorsk. It is right there in the trailer.

Oh yeah.... SQWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

*Ahem* Yeah, whatever. I might get this.

No, I think S kicked the can. Just to screw with you. Where is Stark? You'd think he'd have commented by now about this.

Trailer really doesn't give much and there isn't anything else out- you guys should have waited so we had actual info to chew on.

Havok wrote:It is Dorsk. It is right there in the trailer.

Oh yeah.... SQWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

*Ahem* Yeah, whatever. I might get this.

Tali's name you mean? It's not, it's still Tali'Zorah nar Rayya there.

I want to take this teaser as an indication that we will be playing as a Geth in Mass Effect 2: Electric Boogaloo.

A geth squad member would either be the most awesome thing ever or the lamest thing in the history of gaming.

Also, standard issue squee.

Dorsk 81 wrote:One thing though, shouldn't Tali's name be different now? She went back to her people after Mass Effect with the Geth data right, so shouldn't her name be Tali'Zorah var [name of the ship she joined]?

They change their name after they get on another ship, which is something Tali has not done yet, as she promises to stay with Sheppard until they've resolved the whole Saren/Reaper thing, which they still have not.

I'd have assumed she'd have gone back once the immediate threat from Sovereign, was over. She seemed sure the data about the Geth was going to be pretty important.

Dorsk 81 wrote:I'd have assumed she'd have gone back once the immediate threat from Sovereign, was over. She seemed sure the data about the Geth was going to be pretty important.

I doubt it. She knew that the Reapers were a threat to galactic civilization before anyone else in your party, and when you find out that there are more of them, and that they are still out there, and that they might come back, I'm pretty sure she'd take "galactic level threat" over "get this info back home"

Unless they need to physically send in the gift to the ship's captain, there is no reason to assume she didn't mail it or send it some other way.

Peptuck wrote:A geth squad member would either be the most awesome thing ever or the lamest thing in the history of gaming.

If it involves the obvious explanation that the Geth are being used by the council to keep minor races in line and continue their hegemony in perpetuity and Saren just went rogue and took them with him to serve silly old Solder, it'll be awesome.

This has zero chance of happening and we all know how worthless the Geth are.

Peptuck wrote:Also, standard issue squee.

Yeah, I can't wait to see how crap Bioware games can get either. From KotOR to ... this.

Stark wrote:

Peptuck wrote:Also, standard issue squee.

Yeah, I can't wait to see how crap Bioware games can get either. From KotOR to ... this.

Stark, your shiny rays of optimistic joy never cease to warm my heart.

If they made Gears of Effect they'd be better off; the combat in ME wasn't shabby at all (although the level design and power balance needs work). The retarded plot and hackneyed, incoherent questlines are what made it bad. They should either give up on that or play the fucking Witcher and grow up.

This better have some bad ass Multi too. Like a full 5 man squad like Gears.

Stark wrote:If they made Gears of Effect they'd be better off; the combat in ME wasn't shabby at all (although the level design and power balance needs work). The retarded plot and hackneyed, incoherent questlines are what made it bad. They should either give up on that or play the fucking Witcher and grow up.

Honestly, ME has some good stuff going for it. It has a great, complex pulpy sci-fi setting and some interesting characters (Garrus, Wrex, Tali, and Ashley are among my faves) but the Reapers...ugh. That needs some serious work.

Its obvious they were trying to go for some Lovecraftian-style incomprehensible space horror, but Sovereign was like Cthulhu fused with Goldfinger. Sovereign would have been a hundred times more frightening if it had never spoken at all, and just did things.

Peptuck wrote:Ashley

Surely you don't actually think Ashley is an interesting character. I could pass Tali, but Ashley? She was awful.

This has zero chance of happening and we all know how worthless the Geth are.

You know, it would be pretty cool if, in this instance, you were wrong.

Ford Prefect wrote:

Peptuck wrote:Ashley

Surely you don't actually think Ashley is an interesting character. I could pass Tali, but Ashley? She was awful.

What was wrong with Ashley?

Peptuck wrote:Honestly, ME has some good stuff going for it.

It's a game, not a world-building exercise. It has to be fun to play, which beyond the combat ME is not.

Peptuck wrote:It has a great, complex pulpy sci-fi setting

'Useless fluff with no impact on game'. It's absurd how much nonsensical fanfiction the game was filled with - what did they call it, in the journal, with the stuff not just game-irrelevant but actually contradicted by the game? The 'codex'? lol.

Peptuck wrote:and some interesting characters (Garrus, Wrex, Tali, and Ashley are among my faves)

Dirty cop, Angry Warrior, Outcast, Fundamentalist. Original! Wrex was totally destroyed as a character by the writer's cowardice.

Peptuck wrote: but the Reapers...ugh. That needs some serious work.

That needed work decades ago when it appeared in other, better games. It's retarded to say the setting is 'great' and then say that the fucking centrepiece of that setting is crap.

Peptuck wrote:Its obvious they were trying to go for some Lovecraftian-style incomprehensible space horror, but Sovereign was like Cthulhu fused with Goldfinger. Sovereign would have been a hundred times more frightening if it had never spoken at all, and just did things.

No, it's obvious they hoped nobody had played Star Control 2 and wouldn't bother actually examining the plot which makes almost no sense on any level beyond 'everyone is a fucking retard'. The fact Solder had a fucking villian monologue is the second-best proof Bioware can't write shit to save their fucking lives. Random idiots on the internet like me can fix the setting and plot; Bioware just don't care because why would they? Nerds don't want 'consistent' or 'dramatic' they want OMG TEH BEWBS and WOOT MEANINGLESS CUTSCENES OF EXPLOSIONS.

Ford, if Bioware had a clue, they could make ME2 a giant turnabout that put everything you thought you knew about the world on it's head and made the setting deeper, the Council less utterly two dimensional, and all the worthless fluff about other planets and terminal pirates actually meaningful. It's not even HARD to do this. You thought Spectres were extra-legal supercops that did what they had to while saving the world and humans joining was an honour; turns out they're instruments of repression and control using fear and immunity to ensure the Council retains it's power and status by keeping the other races down for thousands of years until the Reaper trap is sprung and their system comes undone - armageddon giving the lesser races the chance at freedom the Council would never allow them.

Oh whoops sorry, I forgot the boobs.

Peptuck wrote:What was wrong with Ashley?

She was obnoxious as all get out. Remember the first time religion comes up? Sheppard makes a completely neutral comment and she bites his head off. That first conversation with her about her faith is actually impressive writing, because while Sheppard is tactful, it's clear from the way the line is written and delivered he thinks she's being an obnoxious redneck.

Oh yeah, and she shoots Wrex, thus making that entire sequence with him utterly lame no matter how it turns out.

Wrex was totally destroyed as a character by the writer's cowardice.

This is still annoys me. Wrex was my favourite character. He was a shining beacon in a mediocre cast. WHOOPS SORRY WREXFRIENDS.

Peptuck wrote:
Honestly, ME has some good stuff going for it.

The combat system was fine. I was wholly underwhelmed by the level design and art direction though. Look! It's a superfluous set piece! Anyone else remember the last level of Halo?

It has a great, complex pulpy sci-fi setting and some interesting characters (Garrus, Wrex, Tali, and Ashley are among my faves) but the Reapers...ugh. That needs some serious work.

Pulpy? *HACK* All the "complexity" of the plot comes from borrowed episodes of DS9's emo nonsense. Instead of "team of professional guvmint assassins" we get "teh epic characters".

At least we can agree on the Reapers, IE: They shouldn't have happened.

Does anyone else remember how they gave away the whole story back during development? You can watch the debut walk through and literally listen to the developer say "the galaxy is secretly going to be attacked by ultra aliens but shhh it's a secret". I keep hoping one day someone will do a "Sci Fi Watchmen", but as long as nerds dominate the medium that apparently won't happen.

Teaser indeed. Enough to get interest in those who already like the game, but no information of value. The N7 armor, Geth, and status of Sheppard being nothing but a marketing ploy. Still, I am looking forward to the game. I hope the PC release is about the same as last time. 6 months isn't too long to wait.

Wow. I played ME for the first time just a couple months ago and loved it. Who would have guessed it was actually a piece of shit before reading this thread?

Galvatron wrote:Wow. I played ME for the first time just a couple months ago and loved it. Who would have guessed it was actually a piece of shit before reading this thread?

Well, the thing is Stark has actually played good games so he knows how to spot the bad ones. In this case, Stark played Mass Effect 6 times because he lives in Australia. Presumably the interval between orgies was too long and he had to find something to do.

Seriously, if you play one bioware game you have played them all. Try KoTOR than try Jade Empire. They aren't the exact same game, but they are close enough that the entire time you play it you have deja vu. Not to mention they aren't so good at making good characters...

The game is good if you are like me- you play games and enjoy the advancement, weaponry, completion and the like. If you want depth... well, that is the majority of Stark's complaint. That and the plot.

Galvatron wrote:Wow. I played ME for the first time just a couple months ago and loved it. Who would have guessed it was actually a piece of shit before reading this thread?

Enjoy game = is good? This isnot a logical relationship. the shooty bits were fine however much they were invalidated by the broken equipment but the story/writing was terrible. It's obviously ignorable so you can just shoot a bunch of guys, but the super-hyped bioware brilliant story immersive experience succeeding as a shooter is an admission of failure.

So you weren't moved when Ashley recited poetry?