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Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-21 06:23pm
by Lord Pounder
How the feck are you supposed to make a ringtone in iTunes.
I noticed the other day that when I right clicked on a song in iTunes there was an option, create ringtone, but when i selected on of my MP3's I figured most appropriate it said the song had to be bought from the iTunes store. I figured my iPhone had a pretty pathetic range of ringtones so I wanted to make one that was more me. I went on iTunes store and paid £0.79 for Ride Of The Valkyries. Now every time I select create ringtone it tells me I am not connected to the internet and I need a net connection in order to make the ringtone. WTF?
Can anyone tell me what I did wrong?
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-21 06:55pm
by Stark
Don't do it that way.
Open info and set start and stop times to the part of the song you want to make a ringtone (remember max 40s). Right click, convert to aac (this will make an aac version), then go show in explorer and change the extention to m4r, then add that file back in and it'll be recognised as a ringtone and sync'd next time.
Done. Don't PAY for it.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-22 03:32pm
by Qwerty 42
Something else that works is if you convert to MP3 using DaniusSoft mp3 converter and Audacity to cut the song down to size.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-22 04:30pm
by Stark
Man you must get a kickback from Daniusoft for pimping their software!
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-23 10:04pm
by Phantasee
40s is a bit long, no? 30s is pretty much the standard size, as far as I have seen, and if you have a voicemail service that picks up after 4 rings, 20s is all you need (21s if you don't want it to loop by chance).
Unless rings in Australia or the UK are of different lengths than NA?
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-23 10:06pm
by Stark
No Phant, you don't understand; you can make and add a ringtone to your library of any length, but it will NOT be sync'd to your iPhone unless it's 40s or less. It's a limitation, not a recommendation. But you can't just convert a song to aac then rename it and have it work without considering length.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-24 01:30am
by Qwerty 42
Stark wrote:Man you must get a kickback from Daniusoft for pimping their software!
It happened to be free (if you're converting from iTunes Plus) and it's been the best I've found.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-24 01:32am
by Stark
What I just said is also free, with the added bonus of ONLY USING ITUNES which I KNOW HE HAS. It's a three step process for fuck's sake. It takes about five seconds assuming you know the time offsets.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-24 02:53am
by General Zod
The iPhone has size limitations for ringtones? Huh. I can just drag and drop any mp3 onto my blackberry's SD card and select it for a ringtone regardless of length. I wouldn't have figured Apple's phone would have that kind of silly limitation.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-24 05:12am
by charlemagne
General Zod wrote:I wouldn't have figured Apple's phone would have that kind of silly limitation.
Sorry, but lol
IIRC the first iPhone didn't even allow for custom ringtones AT ALL, so this is even an improvement.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-24 12:13pm
by General Zod
charlemagne wrote:General Zod wrote:I wouldn't have figured Apple's phone would have that kind of silly limitation.
Sorry, but lol
IIRC the first iPhone didn't even allow for custom ringtones AT ALL, so this is even an improvement.
I find this even more baffling considering the iPhone's touted music capabilities.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-24 12:34pm
by charlemagne
General Zod wrote:
I find this even more baffling considering the iPhone's touted music capabilities.
Yeah, that was outright
bizarre, I couldn't believe that at all either. I mean, not being able to display flash when browsing the internet, that's highly annoying and all, but not being able to just point at a song on your "smart"phone and tell it to use it as a ringtone (when every phone I've ever owned over the last 6 years could do this) - there's no excuse for that.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-24 11:15pm
by Qwerty 42
Stark wrote:What I just said is also free, with the added bonus of ONLY USING ITUNES which I KNOW HE HAS. It's a three step process for fuck's sake. It takes about five seconds assuming you know the time offsets.
It was just an alternative suggestion: preferable, probably not.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-25 04:50am
by Stark
General Zod wrote:I find this even more baffling considering the iPhone's touted music capabilities.
I don't think it's baffling at all that Apple bent over backwards for stupid rights issues. I hear selling ringtones is a big market and Apple has a relationship with the music industry?
Frankly, using a random mp3 as a ringtone is stupid unless the bit you want is at the start. Many phones let you use whatever you want, but I've never seen one that lets you pick the time offset. You're never going to use more than 40s, so while it's unecessarily obtuse I don't consider it a real issue.
People who use music as ringtones deserve to be stabbed to death, anyway.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-25 05:00am
by charlemagne
Stark wrote:
Frankly, using a random mp3 as a ringtone is stupid unless the bit you want is at the start. Many phones let you use whatever you want, but I've never seen one that lets you pick the time offset. You're never going to use more than 40s, so while it's unecessarily obtuse I don't consider it a real issue.
Well, it's a valid point that most songs aren't suited as ringtones without editing - although there's a couple that are and I've been using such songs
Thinking about it, the
real issue was the "no custom ringtone at all" bit, but that has been fixed, and I guess the editing part wouldn't me bother that much, since how often do you change ringtones? Personally I'm setting one when getting a new phone, and that's it for the next couple of years. So, I admit that it's not an issue.
People who use music as ringtones deserve to be stabbed to death, anyway.
Another valid point
TBH my cellphone is on vibrate only the whole time I carry it with me anyways, my awesome custom music file ringtone can only be heard when I'm at home and the phone is not in my pocket.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-25 05:04am
by Stark
Hey, I'm not saying it's not dumb (paricularly the 'pay for it' scam). I just don't care because there's a trivial workaround that you'd have to do ANYWAY for the huge proportion of songs for which the 'good' bit is not the start.
Except the Doctor Who theme. LOL!
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-25 01:02pm
by General Zod
Stark wrote:General Zod wrote:I find this even more baffling considering the iPhone's touted music capabilities.
I don't think it's baffling at all that Apple bent over backwards for stupid rights issues. I hear selling ringtones is a big market and Apple has a relationship with the music industry?
Frankly, using a random mp3 as a ringtone is stupid unless the bit you want is at the start. Many phones let you use whatever you want, but I've never seen one that lets you pick the time offset. You're never going to use more than 40s, so while it's unecessarily obtuse I don't consider it a real issue.
People who use music as ringtones deserve to be stabbed to death, anyway.
I don't think it's a real issue, I just think it's strange how backwards Apple's scheme for ringtones is to everyone else.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-25 11:01pm
by Phantasee
My last ringer was the ending of The Chain by Fleetwood Mac, but the copy I made was too quiet at the beginning, so I never heard it until it was about to forward to voice mail. I should get around to fixing it, I suppose. I'm kinda tired of hearing that tune from BSG, the Scar theme.
Most annoying ringer I've found is the THX sound, though.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-25 11:11pm
by DPDarkPrimus
My solution would to be buy a phone that allows you to put your own mp3s on it for use as ringtones.
I make them for myself all the time.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-26 12:15am
by Stark
You mean like the iPhone, as described in this very thread?
Alternately, custom ringtones that everyone hates > every other feature iPhone brings to the table! Imagine how fat you'd have to be to think 'custom ringtone exactly like some other brand y/n' is a deal-breaker.
Oh sorry, you use MP3, sorry. I'll see you in the far future of 2005!
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-26 04:51pm
by DPDarkPrimus
Look at Stark telling me how advanced the iPhone is.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-26 05:10pm
by Stark
Look at DP desperately backpedalling from being stupid enough to post 'wow lol buy a phone that lets you use whatever you want I make them myself' in a thread about a phone that does in which the procedure for making them is described.
Either that or he's a) fat and b) in love with MP3. YOU DECIDE.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-27 07:12am
by frogcurry
I'm surprised no one has suggested using Audiko:
http://audiko.net/
Which does all the hard work for you. Much simpler than using the itunes method.
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-27 04:30pm
by DPDarkPrimus
Stark wrote:Look at DP desperately backpedalling from being stupid enough to post 'wow lol buy a phone that lets you use whatever you want I make them myself' in a thread about a phone that does in which the procedure for making them is described.
Either that or he's a) fat and b) in love with MP3. YOU DECIDE.
So how does the iPhone make a ringtone? Take the first 40 seconds of the song?
Re: Creating Ringtones in iTunes?
Posted: 2009-04-27 04:43pm
by JLTucker
DPDarkPrimus wrote:Stark wrote:Look at DP desperately backpedalling from being stupid enough to post 'wow lol buy a phone that lets you use whatever you want I make them myself' in a thread about a phone that does in which the procedure for making them is described.
Either that or he's a) fat and b) in love with MP3. YOU DECIDE.
So how does the iPhone make a ringtone? Take the first 40 seconds of the song?
Did you even read the
post he made, you stupid motherfucker?
Stark wrote:Open info and set start and stop times to the part of the song you want to make a ringtone (remember max 40s). Right click, convert to aac (this will make an aac version), then go show in explorer and change the extention to m4r, then add that file back in and it'll be recognised as a ringtone and sync'd next time.