EVE-Online Dominion, who wishes to play?

[Blayne]

Now I've posted here plenty of times about EVE-Online and with Dominion I've been making alot of ISK and can actually support my subscription in game but its pricey, 300 million isk a month per character.

However it has occurred to me that others might like the game but find the starting bit a little slow, so here's my offer, if your interested in trying EVE-Online (the best Scifi MMORPG out there) express interest and I'll email you a buddy invite, so you'll have 21 days instead of 14 days to try out EVE-Online and if you like the game and subscribe I will send you 70 million isk that is several orders of magnitude more ISK then any new player would reasonably expect so fast.

No requirements or expectations if you like the game and subscribe I'll give you free ingame monies if you don't no pressure. By doing this I get a free 30 days to my account at the cost of only 70 million isk [Smile] .

Here below is the official site where you can check out features and figure out if you like it or not.

http://www.eveonline.com/

You can ask any questions here so far I've been in and experienced much of EVE already including sov warfare and POS bashing.

Here's the Tv Tropes article for a rather upbeat point of view for some of the crazyness that happens: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EveOnline

Its a pay-to-play kind of game but you can use your own success in game to pay for your own subscription just as you can use your own money to pay time cards to sell completely legally in game to other players in exchange for ISK.

Its a great game with a huge amount of sandbox action.

[Nephtys]

Most people here know at least something about Eve, but you should link that slick new video for the 0.0 Warfare that CCP put up. It's really very well done, and surprisingly (if dramatized) accurate to what the appeal is.

I wonder how politics are going these days in Eve. I kinda dropped out a bit after Mercenary Coalition broke up and left us orphans about...

[Quetzalcoatl]

I've thought about trying EVE for a long time, so I can I tentatively express my interest without making a firm commitment? I've googled and wiki'ed enough to know the basics of gameplay and backstory, but I've heard that the learning curve is pretty outrageous.

[Stark]

Neph, I don't think you're the target audience for a post that uses a tvtropes article to try and sell a game to people for free gametime.

Ray, there's a free trial. Just play it and let people know your name so you can see the more interesting shit before the days run out. If I still played I'd give you all my shit.

OP, 70 million isn't really very attractive and you need to talk about the game's positives, not just 'refer to game website' and 'refer to useless wiki'. It's easy to talk about EVE's positives, because it's probably the most interesting MMO around, but the website doesn't really tell you jack shit. All the lore stuff? Bah. Players can tell interested people about the hours of spreadsheets, or the instant piracy, even without going to 0.0.

Crap. Now I want to play again. How many months until I get bored this time?

[Nephtys]

Neph, I don't think you're the target audience for a post that uses a tvtropes article to try and sell a game to people for free gametime.

Ray, there's a free trial. Just play it and let people know your name so you can see the more interesting shit before the days run out. If I still played I'd give you all my shit.

OP, 70 million isn't really very attractive and you need to talk about the game's positives, not just 'refer to game website' and 'refer to useless wiki'. It's easy to talk about EVE's positives, because it's probably the most interesting MMO around, but the website doesn't really tell you jack shit. All the lore stuff? Bah. Players can tell interested people about the hours of spreadsheets, or the instant piracy, even without going to 0.0.

Crap. Now I want to play again. How many months until I get bored this time?

Of course, I'm the target audience for Eve though. Someone who can derive pleasure from screwing someone's numbers with my numbers, applied in a way that requires a team of economists to specifically quantify.

For people who don't know: The lore and whatnot is entirely irrelevant to the appeal of the game. The appeal lies entirely in what you can create, with like-minded individuals in your Corporation, or Alliance of Corporations. It's really unlike any other MMO, and drop your preconceptions at the door immediately. The game has a rich history, but that's a player-created history of people screwing over other people, or building things, then having them fall as they're supplanted by other players who outplayed them.

Also 70 million is nothing in Eve-terms, while not telling much to newbies on what they need to know.

But anyway, as a flashy introduction (again, dramatized) to the Eve 0.0 experience, here you go. All with EW Bitching, Supercapital Hotdrops, Bad Ventrillo coordination, accidental warps to a gate, and russian login traps.

[Blayne]

70 million however IS alot for someone just starting out stuck to level 1 missions and ninja salvaging.

[Stark]

If more people jumped straight into 0.0 they'd enjoy it more I think - I spent way too long in empire. 0.0 is almost what everyone wanted MMOs to be. With more backbiting and corruption.

[Uraniun235]

From what I've heard, I think what 0.0 really needs is to be bigger. Way bigger. Like three or four times as big as it is now.

I remember someone saying that there's really a limited amount of territory that any given coalition or alliance can effectively control at any time, so if you were to introduce more territory than could be effectively controlled, you could create a better sense of there being a 'frontier'.

But maybe I've heard wrong, so I dunno.

[Nephtys]

The new frontier (from what I hear, I haven't played in over a year) is W-Space, accessable only through random wormholes that require actual mapping instead of being fixed jump locations, and new infrastructure, such as bringing all the supplies you'll need before your entry wormhole collapses from exceeding it's mass transit limit.

Otherwise, eh. They added more 0.0 before, and all that did was let russian client state farmers hang out in territory nobody wanted (Drone Regions).

[Stark]

So long as new people can still buy in to 0.0 I don't think it's a problem; if it became static it'd suck. But it's surprisingly dynamic, even after all this time.

[Blayne]

The way it is now with Dominion is that now its alot more expensive for alliances to hold onto space and to make space 'good' and worth controlling the alliance needs to be active in it so now alliances are pretty much mass giving up systems that are not worth holding on to and in some regions like Geminate many new alliances and coalitions are moving in and taking control like my alliance [Eternus Imperium Alliance].

You can jump to 0.0 pretty quickly CVA space in Providence is a good example they let anyone in who isn't set to hostile so they are good training for real 0.0 and can still make some good isk.

I figure by the time your done your learning skills and basic flight skills and the training/career missions you should be ready to start ratting and basic pvp, my 70 million isk offer lets you do all that without needing to grind missions in the beginning and try out some risky actions without it being a real loss.

And some alliances like Goonswarm actively recruit newbies.

[Stark]

LOL. It's absurd to me that you're calling it an 'offer' when nearly random people will give you more, anyone you know by name will probably give you way more, and if you trick newbs into buying a 'faction' (not really faction) booster you'll make more. The idea of grubbing at the start is crazy; if Ray wants to try it and I start up again I'll throw him piles of crap.

But I guess you're trying to keep it below 300million. I thought time cards were WAY more expensive than that; anyone can make that in a month easy.

[Uraniun235]

The new frontier (from what I hear, I haven't played in over a year) is W-Space, accessable only through random wormholes that require actual mapping instead of being fixed jump locations, and new infrastructure, such as bringing all the supplies you'll need before your entry wormhole collapses from exceeding it's mass transit limit.

That sounds kind of gimmicky and small-minded, but maybe it works.

Any current EVE players here? What's W-Space like?

Otherwise, eh. They added more 0.0 before, and all that did was let russian client state farmers hang out in territory nobody wanted (Drone Regions).

Yeah but from what I remember was said last time this got brought up, the amount of space actually added to 0.0 was relatively small compared to the rest of 0.0. I'm talking about basically making the current 0.0 a backyard compared to the rest of new space.

Who knows, maybe their server can't handle quite that much territory. Or maybe they're afraid it would destabilize the balance of power.

[Stark]

If the cost of controlling systems is up, then I'm not surprised there's been a contraction. Many nominally-held systems were seldom visited or used, so that's a good result.

[Blayne]

LOL. It's absurd to me that you're calling it an 'offer' when nearly random people will give you more, anyone you know by name will probably give you way more, and if you trick newbs into buying a 'faction' (not really faction) booster you'll make more. The idea of grubbing at the start is crazy; if Ray wants to try it and I start up again I'll throw him piles of crap.

But I guess you're trying to keep it below 300million. I thought time cards were WAY more expensive than that; anyone can make that in a month easy.

Huh.

Most people first starting out will not get hundreds of millions of isk from strangers and I'm under the assumption that people interested in my offer already don't know anyone whose rich who will give millions of isk.

And I don't like scamming people for money this is an entirely legit, scam free exchange of a service for money, I provide a 2x longer free trial period, I get 30 days free, you get 70 million perfectly fair its an extra incentive to sign up if your interested in the game to convince borderline people and a sure why not to anyone else.

I can run level 5 missions which is around a billion isk a day, its still nice not to have to pay 300 per month per account and I'm aiming for my own personal cap fleet.

[Stark]

Dude you don't have to be 'rich' to give someone a few hundred million; once you get started the amount of money you roll in is very, very high. That's the point. Hell, join the right corp and you'll get what you need massively discounted or free.

Actually, the tendency for people to play EVE in a very personal, closeted PVE manner is a real shame. You can be in a corp ruining people's shit and raking in the cash inside a week, but you have to actually talk to people. Once you meet people you'll be fine and have way more fun anyway.

[Blayne]

Dude you don't have to be 'rich' to give someone a few hundred million; once you get started the amount of money you roll in is very, very high. That's the point. Hell, join the right corp and you'll get what you need massively discounted or free.

Actually, the tendency for people to play EVE in a very personal, closeted PVE manner is a real shame. You can be in a corp ruining people's shit and raking in the cash inside a week, but you have to actually talk to people. Once you meet people you'll be fine and have way more fun anyway.

My alliance is kinda struggling for 0.0 so right now PVP is for gaining Sov and doesn't really gain us money, and can't rat in peace so for me risk vs reward level 4 and level 5 missions is teh god.

Sure even new people can have alot of isk, but not if they're pvp'ing and not every alliance and corp offers large discounts and t2 ship replacement programs, the good ones do but not all of them so my offer takes advantage of that niche market.

[Stark]

T2 ship replacement (and most expensive equipment) is irrelevant to a starting character. That's why people give noobs ships and equipment; a 9 million cruiser is easily replaceable and forgetable.

[Oskuro]

Silence! You are tempting me!

I'd like to know more about 0.0, Stark, are you saying you can go straight for it as a newbie? Because the few times I've tried the game I adopted the usual PVE stance of completing all available content before moving on, and I know that's not the point of EvE, but assumed you needed to do it in order to be prepared for 0.0

And how tough is life out there? I'd love to pilot a ship into battle, but I'm not sure if I care much for treacherous political maneuvering or economic dealings.

[Commander 598]

Dude you don't have to be 'rich' to give someone a few hundred million; once you get started the amount of money you roll in is very, very high. That's the point. Hell, join the right corp and you'll get what you need massively discounted or free.

Actually, the tendency for people to play EVE in a very personal, closeted PVE manner is a real shame. You can be in a corp ruining people's shit and raking in the cash inside a week, but you have to actually talk to people. Once you meet people you'll be fine and have way more fun anyway.

Yeah, I remember when we (Goonswarm) owned bits of the Drone Regions. My squad had set up an operation ratting drones out of a POS. We had someone handling the refining of compounds, shipping them out to Empire, and paying out at the end of the week. For a semi-newbie who was previously making maybe 10 - 15m ISK in a hard day of doing a crappy job ratting Angels ( Angels) in Deteroid, I was making boatloads for almost no effort in just a Drake, and all because of TEAMWORK.

And how tough is life out there? I'd love to pilot a ship into battle, but I'm not sure if I care much for treacherous political maneuvering or economic dealings.

It depends: Are you living on a front dodging large enemy incursions, is your corp made of douchebags that threaten to kick you if you don't show up for ops, are you trying to lone wolf it living out of NPC stations? Hell, when I joined GF I got a complimentary 30m isk donation and at one point during my stint I got a free Rokh.

Still, there is a lot of space. IIRC, sometimes we would even find little Chinese farming operations hanging out in the middle of nowhere. I think we were once tracking a group of them by way of their transports shipping stuff in and out and their route happened to cross one of our hub systems.

[Blayne]

Silence! You are tempting me!

I'd like to know more about 0.0, Stark, are you saying you can go straight for it as a newbie? Because the few times I've tried the game I adopted the usual PVE stance of completing all available content before moving on, and I know that's not the point of EvE, but assumed you needed to do it in order to be prepared for 0.0

And how tough is life out there? I'd love to pilot a ship into battle, but I'm not sure if I care much for treacherous political maneuvering or economic dealings.

If you go to Providence region owned by CVA (Curatores Veritatis Alliance) they have a Not Red Don't Shoot policy where all neutrals can go in and rat and mine in peace and are amarr roleplayers and decent people.

The thing is they are at war with Ushra'Khan who are Minmatar roleplayers fighting a insurrection to free providence from oppression so if your CVA friendly they'll camp you.

But to get into CVA isa direct high sec to nullsec jump so no stupid lowsec pipe to go through CVA regularly patrols the area though you have bad days and good days.

Going in there with just a free trial account is probably a no go as they don't know if your serious about helping but once you've subscribed (hint hint email me for buddy trial free 21 days) they might let you in, basically go to their recruiting channel and say you would like to join them or a renter corp.

CVA is in some ways easier but also harder as you never know which neutral (thus not blue or red) will simply attack you for the hell of it so you need to be even more paranoid for possibly no reason and thus is better 0.0 training.

it all depends on the corp you join, some are asshats and some are decent god (cough titan) fearing folks.

My alliance I think is doing active recruiting come ring me a tell if you subscribe/resubscribe. 70mil isk AND a referral

Seems that there IS a games subforum but then again EVE probly appeals more to the scifi geek then to the average gamer as its spreadsheets IN SPACE!

[RIPP_n_WIPE]

I've been wanting to get with a group of folks to play with. I've always loved eve but never been able to get very far ahead since I lone wolf it a lot.

[Blayne]

my in name nick is Shi Lang come hit me up, I run level 5s.

[Glimmervoid]

I might as well reactivate my old account. I've got a bit of free time coming up and it will be something to do. I’ll post my details in a bit.

[White Haven]

Hmm. The sov changes actually have me tempted. Have they done the whole 'delayed local + intel suite' update they kept talking about yet, or is Local still the Sangraal of intelligence sources?

EDIT: Also, why is this in Sci-fi?