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April 2011 cannot come soon enough. I mean who else can't wait to see Dom get tentacle raped while crying about his dead wife?

Meh.

I'll buy it, but I'm not excited for it, not even a little bit. Uncharted 2 did cover shooter gameplay so much better than Gears did, and has the added appeal of having somewhat believable characters and more varied gameplay. All of the characters in gears have Unreal Tournament Syndrome, characterized by ludicrously muscle-bound characters and enemies that take 400 hits to go down. And yes, I'm aware they're made by the same people.

Oh man, Dom with a beard? Hit me up. Also I guess a female Gear was inevitable, but hopefull she doesn't manage to stay that clean in the actual game.

On a more interesting note, looks like the events of the second game really did bite them in the ass. I mean, we knew there was more to Imulsion and the Lambent from the second game (and we knew there was something up with the Hollow from the first). I'm going to guess that the tentacle dudes who appeared at the end of the teaser there probably some something to do with the creation of the Sires.

Uncharted 2 did cover shooter gameplay so much better than Gears did

This is a joke right?

You're joking?

I played through uncharted2 the other week, the cover system was far inferior to gears

Well, the trailer holds up their cinematic skills. Hopefully, they'll manage to one up GoW2 in the same way it managed to one up the original.

Still, that's a good ways off.

Ford Prefect wrote:Oh man, Dom with a beard? Hit me up. Also I guess a female Gear was inevitable, but hopefull she doesn't manage to stay that clean in the actual game.

there was a female voiced gear during operation hollow storm.

adam_grif wrote:Meh.

I'll buy it, but I'm not excited for it, not even a little bit. Uncharted 2 did cover shooter gameplay so much better than Gears did, and has the added appeal of having somewhat believable characters and more varied gameplay.

No, no it didn't. Uncharted has weedy weapons and hilarious cover bugs (grenades can clip through cover so they stick out your side and kill you), it's good at platforming and the environments in the sequel are pretty, but the shooting bits are distinctly unsatisfying.

Zac Naloen wrote:This is a joke right?

You're joking?

I played through uncharted2 the other week, the cover system was far inferior to gears

Nein. I'm referring to all aspects of the shooting gameplay, not just how snugly your player character fits into cover. I said "cover shooter gameplay" because "cover shooter" is practically a genre at this point. Biggest problem I have with Gears is that I find enemies to be totally unsatisfying to fight because they swallow half a (60 round) magazine before going down, and even with headshots take like ten rounds to die unless you're using a sniper rifle, in which case they still sometimes take 2.

Uncharted has weedy weapons

What do you mean by that? I basically took the AK/M4 + pistol combo wherever I went, I never had any problems except when fighting the megalame super invincible soldiers near the end, who are approaching Far Cry third act levels of lameness. If you're talking about the first one, then I would agree, but the shooting felt much better in 2.

and hilarious cover bugs

Didn't notice them? Not saying they didn't exist, but if they did I don't recall any.

but the shooting bits are distinctly unsatisfying.

Totally disagree.

it's good at platforming

Heh, I wasn't too fond of this aspect of the game except in that it gave us some nice views of scenery and gives a break from the shooting.

Now that I think about it, I think my favorite thing in the whole game is the journal Drake keeps. Cracked me up a whole bunch of times as I read through it doing puzzles and such.

Vendetta wrote:

adam_grif wrote:Meh.

I'll buy it, but I'm not excited for it, not even a little bit. Uncharted 2 did cover shooter gameplay so much better than Gears did, and has the added appeal of having somewhat believable characters and more varied gameplay.

No, no it didn't. Uncharted has weedy weapons and hilarious cover bugs (grenades can clip through cover so they stick out your side and kill you), it's good at platforming and the environments in the sequel are pretty, but the shooting bits are distinctly unsatisfying.

Have to echo this, I also encountered the AI succesfully shooting through walls and the like. It just wasn't as well done as Gears at all.

adam_grif wrote:

Zac Naloen wrote:This is a joke right?

You're joking?

I played through uncharted2 the other week, the cover system was far inferior to gears

Nein. I'm referring to all aspects of the shooting gameplay, not just how snugly your player character fits into cover. I said "cover shooter gameplay" because "cover shooter" is practically a genre at this point. Biggest problem I have with Gears is that I find enemies to be totally unsatisfying to fight because they swallow half a (60 round) magazine before going down, and even with headshots take like ten rounds to die unless you're using a sniper rifle, in which case they still sometimes take 2.

I love Gears but the bullet sponge thing annoys the fuck out of me too. I wish game designers would stop being lazy and try things other than "lol quadruple health bar" when they want to up the difficulty factor.

It appears from the trailer that all of the barbers and personal grooming appliances were left behind in Jacinto. I really really hope that the Sires and that retarded plot line were left behind too, that level was just stupid, and now I have an even dumber enemy than the Flood from Halo cluttering up my Horde matches.

To take it back to the story aspect, I really wonder where they're going with this. In the last book,
Spoiler Anyone have any speculation as to when it will be set? And what the hell was it that happened to turn all those people into pumice?

They'll probably blame that on the Emulsion, specifically probably an advanced rapid onset version of the disease we see in the first levels of the second game. Suppose it makes as much sense as DDS2's Culvier Syndrome...

I wish game designers would stop being lazy and try things other than "lol quadruple health bar" when they want to up the difficulty factor.

It's like they couldn't render enough Locust on screen, so they just made each one have far more hitpoints than sense.

I was playing with a guy who was too shit to play on Hardcore, so he had the game going on Casual. I joined in as second player, and the killing felt like six thousand times better with the lower enemy HP. Unfortunately, you are now superman, because the difficulty setting was built for people who don't know how to take cover. If there was a setting where both the player and the enemies had low HP, I'd be all over that shit.

I really really hope that the Sires and that retarded plot line were left behind too, that level was just stupid, and now I have an even dumber enemy than the Flood from Halo cluttering up my Horde matches.

That level in the campaign saw me using the chainsaw more than the whole rest of the game and Gears 1 combined. And yes, the melee bumrush enemies are extremely lame in all their forms. When they just charge you like that, the silliness of the stupid nerf guns everybody has becomes evident, because if four locust charged you instead of stopping to fire you'd stand no fucking chance at all. You simply can't kill them fast enough except when you're using the occasional uberweapon you pick up (i.e. the mulcher, HoD).

adam_grif wrote:

I wish game designers would stop being lazy and try things other than "lol quadruple health bar" when they want to up the difficulty factor.

It's like they couldn't render enough Locust on screen, so they just made each one have far more hitpoints than sense.

I was playing with a guy who was too shit to play on Hardcore, so he had the game going on Casual. I joined in as second player, and the killing felt like six thousand times better with the lower enemy HP. Unfortunately, you are now superman, because the difficulty setting was built for people who don't know how to take cover. If there was a setting where both the player and the enemies had low HP, I'd be all over that shit.

Speaking of Hardcore mode. I remember one my very first Youtube videos was on just that very issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql0n_hF0pDs
Mr Locust in hardcore mode eats 38 rounds to the head plus an unknown number of rounds from my team-mates. I hated Gears of War for that very reason. Godamn bullet sponges of enemies. Cover is only required in Gears of War because it takes so damn long to kill anything. Even white elites from Halo 2 went down quicker than these damn bastards.

Mr Bean wrote:
Speaking of Hardcore mode. I remember one my very first Youtube videos was on just that very issue.

Ahh, I see your problem now. You're shooting people with the Lancer. Shooting people with the lancer is to keep them suppressed whilst you run up and stick the business end of a chainsaw bayonet in their ass and wiggle.

If you want to actually kill things with bullets, use a Hammerburst.

Also, I hope Gears 3 has a bit like the research facility with the Sires, where it's all tense and spoooky and dark and shit, and then all of a sudden they burst out in a completely unsurprising fashion and you spend the next five minutes trying not to break down in fits of giggles whilst you chainsaw the fuck out of their helpless asses.

Vendetta wrote:Also, I hope Gears 3 has a bit like the research facility with the Sires, where it's all tense and spoooky and dark and shit, and then all of a sudden they burst out in a completely unsurprising fashion and you spend the next five minutes trying not to break down in fits of giggles whilst you chainsaw the fuck out of their helpless asses.

That was underwhelming. Everything up to the point where you encounter them was great (in comparision).

Oh geez. OMG it isn't as easy as (insert fanboys favorite game here)!! BULLET SPONGES!

Hey Locust take as many hits as you do... what is this some sort of balance?! How can I feel like a bigger nerd man if I can't cut a swath through my videogame enemies like I do in my wet dreams?!?!?

Gears 3, like 1 and 2, is going to boil down to the multi. The main game is fun as shit for sure, but I have only played through a few times a piece, and the rest of my countless hours have been spent on the crazy fun multi levels. If they even half assed built on what is already there, then the game is a winner.

Good for Gears shitting on those bullshit novels.

Vendetta wrote:

Mr Bean wrote:
Speaking of Hardcore mode. I remember one my very first Youtube videos was on just that very issue.

Ahh, I see your problem now. You're shooting people with the Lancer. Shooting people with the lancer is to keep them suppressed whilst you run up and stick the business end of a chainsaw bayonet in their ass and wiggle.

If you want to actually kill things with bullets, use a Hammerburst.

There's also the fact that he's playing Gears 1. Gears 2 fixed alot of balance problems.

Havok wrote:Oh geez. OMG it isn't as easy as (insert fanboys favorite game here)!! BULLET SPONGES!

Hey Locust take as many hits as you do... what is this some sort of balance?! How can I feel like a bigger nerd man if I can't cut a swath through my videogame enemies like I do in my wet dreams?!?!?

It's boring as fuck. I'd rather they just up the damage the enemies do, up their reaction times and shit.

Gears 3, like 1 and 2, is going to boil down to the multi. The main game is fun as shit for sure, but I have only played through a few times a piece, and the rest of my countless hours have been spent on the crazy fun multi levels. If they even half assed built on what is already there, then the game is a winner.

Gear's single player is horribly linear and really does not stand up to multiple playings at all. Halo they at least vary the enemy spawns a bit.

adam_grif wrote:

I wish game designers would stop being lazy and try things other than "lol quadruple health bar" when they want to up the difficulty factor.

It's like they couldn't render enough Locust on screen, so they just made each one have far more hitpoints than sense.

I was playing with a guy who was too shit to play on Hardcore, so he had the game going on Casual. I joined in as second player, and the killing felt like six thousand times better with the lower enemy HP. Unfortunately, you are now superman, because the difficulty setting was built for people who don't know how to take cover. If there was a setting where both the player and the enemies had low HP, I'd be all over that shit.

Try playing "Gears of Halo" style. Set the difficulty to casual but using the cover system is verboten. I know what you mean about lol endless health. Another way to make it better would be to get all retro and have non-regenerating health with health packs a rare item.

Greater customizability would help. Like playing Horde if you could customize the waves and stuff, you could simply set the health of the enemies low and up everything else.

I really really hope that the Sires and that retarded plot line were left behind too, that level was just stupid, and now I have an even dumber enemy than the Flood from Halo cluttering up my Horde matches.

That level in the campaign saw me using the chainsaw more than the whole rest of the game and Gears 1 combined. And yes, the melee bumrush enemies are extremely lame in all their forms. When they just charge you like that, the silliness of the stupid nerf guns everybody has becomes evident, because if four locust charged you instead of stopping to fire you'd stand no fucking chance at all. You simply can't kill them fast enough except when you're using the occasional uberweapon you pick up (i.e. the mulcher, HoD).

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Ugh. Got that is annoying.

aieeegrunt wrote:
Gear's single player is horribly linear and really does not stand up to multiple playings at all. Halo they at least vary the enemy spawns a bit.

. . . changing how the enemies spawn doesn't make something any less linear. I don't think there's any such thing as a non-linear single player campaign for an fps.

aieeegrunt wrote:

Havok wrote:Oh geez. OMG it isn't as easy as (insert fanboys favorite game here)!! BULLET SPONGES!

Hey Locust take as many hits as you do... what is this some sort of balance?! How can I feel like a bigger nerd man if I can't cut a swath through my videogame enemies like I do in my wet dreams?!?!?

It's boring as fuck. I'd rather they just up the damage the enemies do, up their reaction times and shit.

They do genius.

Gears 3, like 1 and 2, is going to boil down to the multi. The main game is fun as shit for sure, but I have only played through a few times a piece, and the rest of my countless hours have been spent on the crazy fun multi levels. If they even half assed built on what is already there, then the game is a winner.

Gear's single player is horribly linear and really does not stand up to multiple playings at all. Halo they at least vary the enemy spawns a bit.

Wow, it's like if you bothered to read what I wrote...

General Zod wrote:

aieeegrunt wrote:
Gear's single player is horribly linear and really does not stand up to multiple playings at all. Halo they at least vary the enemy spawns a bit.

. . . changing how the enemies spawn doesn't make something any less linear. I don't think there's any such thing as a non-linear single player campaign for an fps.

I love how people bitch that games where you are playing a military character with specific goals complains about it being linear, like military guys can just go running off all over the place willy nilly. Screw my time sensitive mission, I wanna see what is over that hill!

No, what's funny is when people complain about a style decision by making ignorant statements like 'they couldn't render enough locust'.

I can only imagine how shit horde would be if you replaced the tension of the action movie tough guy combat with 'realistic' MW2 'two hit youre dead' stuff.

Anyone who expects to see novel references is an idiot.

But I hope Baird and Dom get appearance toggles in multi. Dizzy can have one too.

Repost: Just from that clip, you can tell that Dom is a beaten and broken soul who is ready to lay down and die, consigned to his fate and only goes on because of Marcus.

Gears has no story.