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New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-22 04:14am
by Darth Yan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m54E3oFWacA

It looks intense and it pretty much confirms that Kerrigan's arc will be working to come to terms and balancing the desire between rage and redemption. I am certainly going to get it.

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-22 04:27am
by Block
Darth Yan wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m54E3oFWacA

It looks intense and it pretty much confirms that Kerrigan's arc will be working to come to terms and balancing the desire between rage and redemption. I am certainly going to get it.
I didn't see anything about redemption in there. That said I like the new units, firebat looks like it's back, the zerg unit that could pull others into it seems pretty useful. Overall it looks solid.

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-22 04:46am
by Darth Yan
in one of the earlier clips kerrigan refers to her crimes as "terrible" and when war field is doing the voiceasking "how many innocents have you killed" over her face looks conflicted. That implies that on same basic level she probably did feel genuine guilt for her crimes. I can link the clip.

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-22 05:24am
by Vendetta
Block wrote:That said I like the new units, firebat looks like it's back
Those are Hellions.

They're Transformers now :3 (Battle Mode for Hellions, sacrifices mobility for toughness).

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-22 03:29pm
by Block
Vendetta wrote:
Block wrote:That said I like the new units, firebat looks like it's back
Those are Hellions.

They're Transformers now :3 (Battle Mode for Hellions, sacrifices mobility for toughness).
That's just weird.

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-22 04:26pm
by bobalot
Apparently this will be released around May 2012. Seriously? 2 years for an expansion? By the time they release the last expansion, won't the graphics be dated?

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-22 04:56pm
by Darksider
It seems like blizzard is intent on making each "expansion" into a full length game. Sure the graphics will probably be dated by the time Legacy of the Void comes out, but Blizzard has never exactly been cutting edge in terms of graphics, and they still have a fanbase.

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-22 08:22pm
by Number Theoretic
If they play this making-the-expansion-a-full-fledged-game straight, they perhaps have the possibility to upgrade the graphics gradually. Backwards compatibility can then be an issue though.

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-22 08:39pm
by Block
bobalot wrote:Apparently this will be released around May 2012. Seriously? 2 years for an expansion? By the time they release the last expansion, won't the graphics be dated?
They announced before wings of liberty that each game was a full game, not just an expansion in the traditional sense.

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-22 09:26pm
by Artemas
dude

the graphics have been dated since wic came out

in 2007

but anyway, cod games take about two years for the studio to finish, despite using the same engine and animations and stuff, and they spend it carefully crafting levels, doing bugfixes and va, optimization, so presumably blizzard is doing the same, given the care for singleplayer levels in wings of liberty

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-23 12:45am
by Stofsk
There is also a shitload of stuff that goes into balancing multiplayer, and making maps for it.

And yet Blizzard still messes it up.

While everyone has already said that the games are full games in their own right, the confusion is Blizzard stating IIRC that they will be priced as expansion games.

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-23 10:39am
by TC Pilot
I didn't think Wings of Liberty was all that great, so dropping the price to expansion pack/DLC levels is about the only way I'll be buying it this.

As for the trailer... is anyone else just downright sick of Mengsk? The guy's been overthrown like a dozen times already. You'd think someone would just put a bullet in his head by now.

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-23 01:17pm
by White Haven
Blizzard's gotten a wee bit too used to the Warcraft universe, where recurring villains are legitimately durable enough that that's difficult to do. :wink:

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-23 04:55pm
by Darksider
Stofsk wrote: the confusion is Blizzard stating IIRC that they will be priced as expansion games.

If you believe that, I've got some oceanfront property in Colorado i'd like to sell you.

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-24 05:00am
by Stofsk
*shrug* Hey if you want to get a hate-on for Blizzard don't let me stop you. I'm only repeating what they said, I personally don't care.

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-24 07:07pm
by Darth Yan
TC the leaked ending implies that Mengsk finally does face justice Spoiler
at the point of kerrigan's blade appendges
. Anyway I like Kerrigan as a character and it would be cool to see one of Blizzard's fallen heroes achieve redemption (Arthas died and went to hell, the Wanderer and the diablo heroes were damned and were driven crazy.)

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-24 07:38pm
by Vendetta
Darth Yan wrote:Anyway I like Kerrigan as a character and it would be cool to see one of Blizzard's fallen heroes achieve redemption (Arthas died and went to hell, the Wanderer and the diablo heroes were damned and were driven crazy.)
What would be more interesting would be to keep Kerrigan as a villain and to play her as an effective well written one. She was never really an "interesting character" before she was zerged, because you meet her at the start of the mission and she gets overwhelmed by the swarm at the end of it.

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-24 07:58pm
by TC Pilot
Darth Yan wrote:TC the leaked ending implies that Mengsk finally does face justice
I never did buy that was the actual ending.

If it was, then it was pretty damn stupid.
Vendetta wrote:What would be more interesting would be to keep Kerrigan as a villain and to play her as an effective well written one. She was never really an "interesting character" before she was zerged, because you meet her at the start of the mission and she gets overwhelmed by the swarm at the end of it.
Kerrigan's introduced several missions before she's captured by the Zerg.

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-10-29 07:47am
by Sharp-kun
bobalot wrote:Apparently this will be released around May 2012. Seriously? 2 years for an expansion? By the time they release the last expansion, won't the graphics be dated?
That didn't stop Starcraft 1 being played for how long?

From what I remember they said at Blizzcon that there are some improvements to the engine.

Re: New Heart of the Swarm Trailer

Posted: 2011-11-01 07:53am
by TheKwas
As for the trailer... is anyone else just downright sick of Mengsk? The guy's been overthrown like a dozen times already. You'd think someone would just put a bullet in his head by now.
Wait, what? Mengsk's been overthrown once by the UED as far as I remember.