Starting MOO3

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-07-15 01:58pm

Well, my wife let me buy MOO3 yesterday (not before she got a lot of things herself), and I installed it on this machine and began looking the game over. About an hour later, my jaw dropped -- such a difference between this game and the previous two --> seems to be made for micromanagers. Commanding a real company wouldn't be much more difficult than this game (except you can't place life on PAUSE). Didn't even get out of the interface yet, but the game appears daunting to say the least...

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2003-07-15 02:05pm

NOOOOOO you bought that POS!

*SOBS*

You shold have read all the posts about Moo3 and goten yourself Galacic Civ instead...

Mourns

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-07-15 02:07pm

I traded it in yesterday to get 10 quid off another game, first time I've done that to a game in donkeys years, so that shows you what I think of it.

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2003-07-15 02:40pm

I would have returned the POS, but I left it for too long. What a waste of money.

And I needed something to remind me to read the online reviews by gamers 1st

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2003-07-15 03:08pm

I didn't have a problem with it, actually. Its got problems and is far from what it should have been, but I don't think its horrible.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-07-15 04:16pm

JediNeophyte wrote:I didn't have a problem with it, actually. Its got problems and is far from what it should have been, but I don't think its horrible.

Can't figure out how to build ships -- designed a colony ship, but the dang things just won't build. Too bad they had to totally redesign the ship-building system with which all MOO2 players were familiar...

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-07-15 04:23pm

NOO!!!

If you can, return it ASAP and get GalCiv or Escape Velocity Nova instead!

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-07-15 04:24pm

jegs2 wrote:Can't figure out how to build ships -- designed a colony ship, but the dang things just won't build. Too bad they had to totally redesign the ship-building system with which all MOO2 players were familiar...

You have the design first, right? And it's not on the obsolete list, right?

In that case, go to whichever planet has the highest industrial rating (it's represented by some blue icon--I'd know what it was if I was looking at it) and put a bunch of colony ships on its military build queue. That's how you build ships.

But you might want to put a bunch of ships like troopships and colonyships on the obsolete list first, otherwise the automatic AI'll build those only and not build any of the more advanced ships you might have designed.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-07-15 08:57pm

Shinova wrote: You have the design first, right? And it's not on the obsolete list, right?

Okay, figured out that part...

In that case, go to whichever planet has the highest industrial rating (it's represented by some blue icon--I'd know what it was if I was looking at it) and put a bunch of colony ships on its military build queue. That's how you build ships.

Found the "military tab" for the planet in question and saw the building queue, but was unable to affect it.

But you might want to put a bunch of ships like troopships and colonyships on the obsolete list first, otherwise the automatic AI'll build those only and not build any of the more advanced ships you might have designed.

Think I figured out the obsolete thingie, but you're talking over my head for now...

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-07-16 02:19am

Okay, I've been playing MOO3 for a few hours now, and I think the following from this article best describes the situation:

However, many aspects of MOO3 should have been scrapped at the beginning. One glaring problem is the 165 page manual. While holding an interesting background storyline for the game, material inside is poorly organized and not extremely helpful. Gamers unfamiliar with Master of Orion will have a hard time jumping in, especially with inadequate instructions. Many aspects of game control, once intuitive, are now more difficult to find and much less user friendly.

Master of Orion 3, while succeeding in many aspects, fails miserably in others. While die hard fans of the Master of Orion games will definitely find some enjoyment of this title, it proves to be complex, confusing, and ultimately a lot more of an investment to the novice or uninitiated gamer. However, the title is still shades better than “Not Recommended.”

That about wraps it up -- if you're a big fan of MoO and MoO2 (as am I), then you hold out hope that this game will become entertaining. Reminds me of why I kept buying Metallica albums after And Justice for All -- kept hoping they would produce something good, like they used to... BTW, Load was the last Metallica album I purchased (with the exception of their latest "Garage" album)...

Raxmei · Post by **Raxmei** » 2003-07-16 02:49am

In that case, go to whichever planet has the highest industrial rating (it's represented by some blue icon--I'd know what it was if I was looking at it) and put a bunch of colony ships on its military build queue. That's how you build ships.
Found the "military tab" for the planet in question and saw the building queue, but was unable to affect it.

There should be another tab somewhere around there. It leads to a menu of military stuff.

But you might want to put a bunch of ships like troopships and colonyships on the obsolete list first, otherwise the automatic AI'll build those only and not build any of the more advanced ships you might have designed.
Think I figured out the obsolete thingie, but you're talking over my head for now...

The AI can manage your empire without your interference. It takes care of the tedious chore of developing your colonies and making buildings. It also builds military units automatically. If you don't set your build queues manually the AI will do it for you. Unfortunately, the AI has the annoying habit of building troop transports and ground forces to the exclusion of everything else.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-07-16 03:21am

I returned my copy shortly after I got it, really I don’t know why I even tried it after my best friend with identical tastes returned his.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-07-16 03:28am

How about, have it need money to upgrade system, because it won't run....

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-07-16 12:29pm

You might find the MOO3 FAQ more useful than the manual.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-07-16 01:26pm

[rabid galciv fanboy]Go buy Galactic Civilizations dude.[/]

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2003-07-16 03:46pm

Shinova wrote:

But you might want to put a bunch of ships like troopships and colonyships on the obsolete list first, otherwise the automatic AI'll build those only and not build any of the more advanced ships you might have designed.

do you even KNOW about the patch? the code patch fixed this thing around 2 months ago, ya I know pathetic, but at least the patch helps me get my money's worth.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-07-16 10:52pm

Ace Pace wrote:do you even KNOW about the patch? the code patch fixed this thing around 2 months ago, ya I know pathetic, but at least the patch helps me get my money's worth.

Do you have a link for said patch?

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2003-07-17 02:30am

jegs2 wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:do you even KNOW about the patch? the code patch fixed this thing around 2 months ago, ya I know pathetic, but at least the patch helps me get my money's worth.
Do you have a link for said patch?

Linky

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-07-17 03:15am

Faram wrote:
jegs2 wrote:Do you have a link for said patch?
Linky

Thanks. Gameplay does seem more stable now...

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2003-07-17 03:44am

jegs2 wrote:Well, my wife let me buy MOO3 yesterday (not before she got a lot of things herself), and I installed it on this machine and began looking the game over. About an hour later, my jaw dropped -- such a difference between this game and the previous two --> seems to be made for micromanagers. Commanding a real company wouldn't be much more difficult than this game (except you can't place life on PAUSE). Didn't even get out of the interface yet, but the game appears daunting to say the least...

You should have made an open post; I would have *given* you my copy...

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-07-17 08:53am

I even bought the damn strategy guide......d'oh!. although the game really isn't bad, it is just way too fucking complex, and not well organized. once you get going it gets entertaining.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-07-17 10:33am

EmperorMing wrote:You should have made an open post; I would have *given* you my copy...

I'll take it!

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