Aargh! Why is it so damn expensive?!

Dooey Jo · Post by **Dooey Jo** » 2003-07-17 08:02am

Why is software so fucking expensive?! I want to buy Adobe After Effects so I can do some nice special effects for my movies but the damn thing costs nearly $700 ($699

)!! How do people afford it? I mean you can buy a good graphic card for that amount of money. Is software really supposed to cost more than the hardware? I certainly think not.

lux · Post by **lux** » 2003-07-17 11:19am

I need to get Maya.. Just think how I feel..

Maya Complete 5: $ 2000

Maya Unlimited 5: $ 7000

Um.. yea. I will never be buying it. But there are other ways..

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-07-17 11:51am

The market for composition tools such as AE is rather limited, so for Adobe to recoup their costs and make a profit the price must be reasonably high.

And do you two actually need AE or Maya?

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-07-17 01:27pm

lux wrote:I need to get Maya.. Just think how I feel..

Maya Complete 5: $ 2000

Maya Unlimited 5: $ 7000

Um.. yea. I will never be buying it. But there are other ways..

Maya Personal Edition

Use descriptive link names! - Phong

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-07-17 03:19pm

phongn wrote:The market for composition tools such as AE is rather limited, so for Adobe to recoup their costs and make a profit the price must be reasonably high.

With the number of computer geeks "acquiring" Photoshop for personal use one would think that the market would be larger than it seemed.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-07-17 05:23pm

Dalton wrote:
phongn wrote:The market for composition tools such as AE is rather limited, so for Adobe to recoup their costs and make a profit the price must be reasonably high.
With the number of computer geeks "acquiring" Photoshop for personal use one would think that the market would be larger than it seemed.

They obviously aquire AE for personal use as well.

One could try finding it here...

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-07-17 08:10pm

Dalton wrote:
phongn wrote:The market for composition tools such as AE is rather limited, so for Adobe to recoup their costs and make a profit the price must be reasonably high.
With the number of computer geeks "acquiring" Photoshop for personal use one would think that the market would be larger than it seemed.

Most geeks do not need Photoshop for what they do. GIMP or PSP or the cheaper Photoshop varient probably would work fine, they aren't using the vast majority of PS's features (e.g. CMYK, LAB color).

I should have clarified: the demand curve for people who actually would purchase PS is rather low.

Dooey Jo · Post by **Dooey Jo** » 2003-07-18 06:46am

phongn wrote:And do you two actually need AE or Maya?

Well it's not like I'd die or something without it (at least I hope not

). But making special effects would be a whole lot easier if I had it...

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-07-18 08:14am

Sir Sirius wrote:
Dalton wrote:
phongn wrote:The market for composition tools such as AE is rather limited, so for Adobe to recoup their costs and make a profit the price must be reasonably high.
With the number of computer geeks "acquiring" Photoshop for personal use one would think that the market would be larger than it seemed.
They obviously aquire AE for personal use as well.

One could try finding it here...But then again maybe not...

Kewl!

EDIT: Killed the link...

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-07-18 08:48am

What's really funny is game developers whine about piracy, when every single one of them have had a pirated copy of Photoshop or Lightwave on their hard drives at one point or another.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-07-18 12:33pm

Hamel wrote:What's really funny is game developers whine about piracy, when every single one of them have had a pirated copy of Photoshop or Lightwave on their hard drives at one point or another.

Everyone's a hypocrite until it happens to them.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-07-18 12:34pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Sir Sirius wrote: One could try finding it here...
Kewl!

You two are treading on thin ice.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-07-18 12:35pm

Dooey Jo wrote:
phongn wrote:And do you two actually need AE or Maya?
Well it's not like I'd die or something without it (at least I hope not ). But making special effects would be a whole lot easier if I had it...

Then you don't actually need it, no? It's not like your livelyhood depends on AE?

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-07-18 01:47pm

phongn wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Sir Sirius wrote: One could try finding it here...But then again maybe not...
Kewl!
You two are treading on thin ice.

Sorry... I'll kill the link ok?

I edited it out of this post, and I'm about to do the same with the other one. Lata and Happy Fragging!

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-07-18 02:04pm

if i made software (which i wish i could) i'd give it away for free. i wouldnt demand money for it. im nice

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-07-18 02:07pm

kojikun wrote:if i made software (which i wish i could) i'd give it away for free. i wouldnt demand money for it. im nice

So would I. But I would set up a Paypal account and accept donations...

And I wouldn't do something stupid like affiliate myself with Gator, WhenU, LOP, etc. Nowadays pulling shit like that is tantamount to suicide.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-07-18 02:34pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:So would I. But I would set up a Paypal account and accept donations...

And I wouldn't do something stupid like affiliate myself with Gator, WhenU, LOP, etc. Nowadays pulling shit like that is tantamount to suicide.

Spyware, BLEGH.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-07-18 02:36pm

Also, the more expensive software is, the crappier it's container is. Seriously... you buy those $10 discount games in those nice jewel cases... while some of the new games only come in a paper sleeve with plastic so you know what is inside... Hell, Maya doesn't even have a plastic window, just a paper sleeve... some companies just box the CD-ROM without any protection at all. (Eep!)

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-07-18 02:58pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:I edited it out of this post, and I'm about to do the same with the other one. Lata and Happy Fragging!

I didn't mind the original link very much, but you didn't need to blow it up to large text size. I generally allow links to P2P applications.

Dooey Jo · Post by **Dooey Jo** » 2003-07-19 05:28am

phongn wrote:
Dooey Jo wrote:
phongn wrote:And do you two actually need AE or Maya?
Well it's not like I'd die or something without it (at least I hope not ). But making special effects would be a whole lot easier if I had it...
Then you don't actually need it, no? It's not like your livelyhood depends on AE?

No, obviously not. But rotoscoping would be so much easier if I could create filmclips and import them into Photoshop (don't tell anyone but my copy is pirated

)...