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Anyone remember the really old computers...?

Posted: 2003-08-05 10:07pm
by RogueIce
Y'know, the ones with the "TURBO" button?

Did that actually do anything? I never noticed any difference...

Oh, by the way, I recently got my old one back. It had a B: drive and TURBO button! Y'know the B: drive, the really floppy floppy disk? :)

*tries to see if he can find the cords to reconnect it, and see if it survived Y2K...or whether it still thinks it's in the mid-90s*

Anyone else still have their old machines lying around?

Posted: 2003-08-05 10:10pm
by kojikun
ahh the B: drive.. back when you needed one floppy for your OS the other for data..

Posted: 2003-08-05 10:11pm
by Montcalm
The oldest one we have is a Commodore Vic-20 with the shitty casette drive.

Posted: 2003-08-05 10:15pm
by phongn
Yes, it did for very old machines. Turning off "turbo" mode switched you into a slower compatibility mode needed for very old software.

Posted: 2003-08-05 10:18pm
by Ghost Rider
Pfft...youngin.

I remember the load up screen for the C-64(ah GTA:VC...truly only old geezers get the joke...and youngins who've seen it)

You and your B Drive...hell I remember cassettes and even further back.

Posted: 2003-08-05 10:21pm
by RogueIce
phongn wrote:Yes, it did for very old machines. Turning off "turbo" mode switched you into a slower compatibility mode needed for very old software.
They should have that for the newer ones.

So I can play some old games! Damn it all...

Well, probably not a huge deal with this 900 MHz 120MB RAM machine, but if I ever go higher...

Oh, and that fucking "Windows 95 game won't play on Windows 98" bullshit... :evil:

Posted: 2003-08-05 10:21pm
by darthdavid
I hat an ibm multi media, with turbo button, b drive, a drive and cd drive. Runnign windows original. It was my last desk top.

Posted: 2003-08-05 10:23pm
by RedImperator
I have an Apple II/c moldering in the attic somewhere. I've SEEN toys that ran off 8-track tapes, but I don't know if they were computers or not.

Posted: 2003-08-05 10:24pm
by phongn
It ran Windows 1.0? Damn, I didn't think anyone actually used it. (Now Windows 3.0 or 3.1, that's another story).

Due to many architectural changes, a "turbo" button probably wouldn't work anymore. It's a lot easier to throttle down a 33MHz i80486 to 4.77MHz or so than it is to get an Athlon running at similar performance.

Posted: 2003-08-05 10:25pm
by phongn
RedImperator wrote:I have an Apple II/c moldering in the attic somewhere. I've SEEN toys that ran off 8-track tapes, but I don't know if they were computers or not.
I know there have been plenty of machines that ran off of cassette tape, but 8-track?

Posted: 2003-08-05 10:49pm
by darthdavid
phongn wrote:It ran Windows 1.0? Damn, I didn't think anyone actually used it. (Now Windows 3.0 or 3.1, that's another story).
Sorry about the confusion. It was infact running windows 3.x (0 or 2 i know it wasn't 1) i said original because i didn't know that they really made anything before that other than prototypes. Sorry.

Posted: 2003-08-06 01:58am
by RedImperator
phongn wrote:
RedImperator wrote:I have an Apple II/c moldering in the attic somewhere. I've SEEN toys that ran off 8-track tapes, but I don't know if they were computers or not.
I know there have been plenty of machines that ran off of cassette tape, but 8-track?
It had to be 8 track. The tapes were big, clunky plastic things and they could only be wound in one direction. I'm pretty sure they were 8-track, anyway--I've never actually seen a working 8-track player except for this game thing.

Posted: 2003-08-06 02:05am
by TrailerParkJawa
The oldest computer I ever had was a TI-99 4/a. I threw it away one day when I had too much stuff in my closet and no place to put it. At the time it didnt seem like a big deal, but I should have kept it. Gosh, that must have been 6-8 years ago now.

There is still a C-64 out in the garage. It works, but I never set it up anymore.

Posted: 2003-08-06 02:57am
by StarshipTitanic
phongn wrote:It ran Windows 1.0? Damn, I didn't think anyone actually used it. (Now Windows 3.0 or 3.1, that's another story).

Due to many architectural changes, a "turbo" button probably wouldn't work anymore. It's a lot easier to throttle down a 33MHz i80486 to 4.77MHz or so than it is to get an Athlon running at similar performance.
I remember hearing something about the Galilaeo probe running 1.0 but only vaguely...is that possible?

Posted: 2003-08-06 04:28am
by The Yosemite Bear
kojikun wrote:ahh the B: drive.. back when you needed one floppy for your OS the other for data..
What floppy drives..

I remember when a tape cassette drive was an improvement.....

Posted: 2003-08-06 05:11am
by Einhander Sn0m4n
When I was 12 or 13 I remember having a computer class in which somehow my teacher managed to LAN together three dozen IBM XTs or something (it was a monitor with a 3.5 floppy drive taped on, that's it) with a nice big-ass UNIX Serva. I think the whole contraption used some strange fusion of UNIX and MS DOS too. Sorry boys, this was before the days of Quake. Hell, if you had Wolfenstein3D j00 were t3h PwNx0r. Well, until DooM came out. Ah, those were the days.

Even back then I was amazing everyone with my L33t P4!|\|7 SK!||Z when Mrs. Leger installed a rather quite advanced paint program on the LAN Serva. No one could get their work done when the Paint G0d was going at it...

Posted: 2003-08-06 05:12am
by Einhander Sn0m4n
The Yosemite Bear wrote:
kojikun wrote:ahh the B: drive.. back when you needed one floppy for your OS the other for data..
What floppy drives..

I remember when a tape cassette drive was an improvement.....
Tell us about UNIX and Punch Cards, Great Elder G0d of t3h Internet...

Posted: 2003-08-06 08:59am
by Lagmonster
Broken record. Here's what we're going to do: Everyone over the age of thirty automatically gets a free pass towards assuming that they know old technology.

Actually, screw that. Here's what we're REALLY going to do: Everyone under the age of thirty gets to be on one side of the forum and pierce yourselves in places I don't want to know about and flip us off and laugh about how we don't 'get it'...and the rest of us will sit on the OTHER side of the forum and laugh our asses off about how your education is so poor that you won't know how to BUILD a high-powered computer in ten years, and we'll all be back to paper and pens.

So THERE. :lol:

Posted: 2003-08-06 09:02am
by Kelly Antilles
Lagmonster wrote:Broken record. Here's what we're going to do: Everyone over the age of thirty automatically gets a free pass towards assuming that they know old technology.

Actually, screw that. Here's what we're REALLY going to do: Everyone under the age of thirty gets to be on one side of the forum and pierce yourselves in places I don't want to know about and flip us off and laugh about how we don't 'get it'...and the rest of us will sit on the OTHER side of the forum and laugh our asses off about how your education is so poor that you won't know how to BUILD a high-powered computer in ten years, and we'll all be back to paper and pens.

So THERE. :lol:
*BOL* Absolutely brilliant Lag. And so true.

Posted: 2003-08-06 12:46pm
by phongn
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:When I was 12 or 13 I remember having a computer class in which somehow my teacher managed to LAN together three dozen IBM XTs or something (it was a monitor with a 3.5 floppy drive taped on, that's it) with a nice big-ass UNIX Serva. I think the whole contraption used some strange fusion of UNIX and MS DOS too.
It probably booted DOS and you telneted into the server - probably running AIX if it was an IBM box - and used XWindows or whatnot.

In middle school, we had a LAN consisting of TRS-80s hooked up. A master machine had a printer and FDD while there was this switch that connected everything at the astouding speed of 1200 baud. Only one computer could be hooked up to the "server," too (in this case, literally selected by the switch).
Sorry boys, this was before the days of Quake. Hell, if you had Wolfenstein3D j00 were t3h PwNx0r. Well, until DooM came out. Ah, those were the days.
Had Wolfenstein 3D (the compete W3D).

Posted: 2003-08-06 01:22pm
by The Yosemite Bear
Is it my fault that my mom sent me to the Computer Science Lab because she couldn't find a sitter?

Unfortunatly I have one disadvantage to working with hardware...

I was working as an intern when I had an incident that has left me un employable in any hi-tech situations.

I was working when the transmitter was struck by lightning. A lot of feed back passed through me, but I wasn't grounded. Well now I am the dark god of biocapacitance. I can't actually work on hardware anymore, because even after grounding my self out as much as possible, I can kill motherboards/CPU's.

BTW the daisy-daisy chained external storage devices of the early 80's were like the funniest thing. I know one BBS er who untill the 1990's still used an Amiga with dozens of Daisy chained floppies and external HDD's to run his board off of...

Rant: The thing I miss most, Bullet proof Hardware/software. Fuck if you understood Basic/C/Unix you still can do stuff, but I remember when you could do horrible things to keyboards and unplug them, then dry them off, and they were good to go.

Posted: 2003-08-06 03:17pm
by phongn
I remember those things (the Apple II series was notorious for this as well). I know some places with these huge SCSI chains as well.

Posted: 2003-08-06 03:19pm
by Peregrin Toker
Well, I recall my family's first computer. An Olivetti 33-Mhz.

Call me insane, but I think I'll be more emotionally attached to that old Olivetti than any other computer I'll ever touch...

(Even the high-tech computer I'm using right now)

Posted: 2003-08-06 03:20pm
by Baron Mordo
Oh lordy. My old 386 had a turbo button. I remember having to switch from 26 mhz to 21 mhz so I could play Dungeons of Pun. Also, our C-64 at public school had Planetfall. I kept on getting killed by getting sucked out the airlock.

Posted: 2003-08-06 06:33pm
by YT300000
I have an XT.