Any one play XWA anymore?

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-08-14 12:26am

Recently downloaded some Stardestroyer opts for the game. Good stuff. The XWU still lives.....

Fixed the title for you -Kev

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-08-14 12:29am

XA? Should there be a W in there? Is so, I know what it is. Otherwise...explain.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-08-14 12:37am

RogueIce wrote:XA? Should there be a W in there? Is so, I know what it is. Otherwise...explain.

Sure, XWA. My bad.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-08-14 12:40am

Knife wrote:
RogueIce wrote:XA? Should there be a W in there? Is so, I know what it is. Otherwise...explain.
Sure, XWA. My bad.

Ah... Excellent game! I just started replaying it meself.

How big are these mods? Can you fit one on a floppy? It's be easier than burning it to a damn CD. I don't have XWA on my Net computer, and even if I did, no joystick and shitty speakers = no fun. So anything I got would have to be transferred.

And where're these SD ops at? And what do they involve? Details, man, details!

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-08-14 12:51am

I can't stand using the Zone and the rooms seem to be deserted, anyway.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-08-14 12:56am

RogueIce wrote:
Ah... Excellent game! I just started replaying it meself.

How big are these mods? Can you fit one on a floppy? It's be easier than burning it to a damn CD. I don't have XWA on my Net computer, and even if I did, no joystick and shitty speakers = no fun. So anything I got would have to be transferred.

And where're these SD ops at? And what do they involve? Details, man, details!

http://www.xwaupgrade.cjb.net/

They released the Stardestroyers about a month ago. The Impstar I and II. Both are, imo, real good opts. Not quite as detailed as somethings you can get from lightwave and such, but nice in the game.

Over the years, I have downloaded just about every patch and mod from this site. The weapons patch is a good one too.

Yeh, I have been replaying it recently also. I so love this game. If only Lucas arts could find it in their heart to bring out another game from this franchise.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-08-14 01:11am

Knife wrote:Yeh, I have been replaying it recently also. I so love this game. If only Lucas arts could find it in their heart to bring out another game from this franchise.

TIE Fighter Empire?

Yeah, 'tis a great series. Better than Jedi Starfighter and Rogue Squadron (at least the ones I played on the consoles...Star Fox ripoffs, IMO).

After Endor missions would be cool. You got X-Wing (with the expansions) going from pre-Yavin to finding Hoth, then TIE Fighter going from just after Hoth to whenever (never did beat it

), then X-Wing Alliance going from sometime to Endor. And X-Wing vs TIE Fighter just kinda thrown in there (Balance of Power could be between TF and XWA I suppose).

So, post-Endor anyone...with a REAL flight sim, and not Rogue Squadron, which in my experience is a Star Wars version of Star Fox?

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-08-14 01:17am

Agreed, I really like the flight sim feel to it. The feel of the hyperspace jumps in BoP or in XWA is great. The stories are good too. The haven't captured the Star Wars experince like they have in the Xwing series, at least for starship experience.

And Xwing cutscenes rule.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-08-14 01:18am

Knife wrote:Agreed, I really like the flight sim feel to it. The feel of the hyperspace jumps in BoP or in XWA is great. The stories are good too. The haven't captured the Star Wars experince like they have in the Xwing series, at least for starship experience.

And Xwing cutscenes rule.

Ooyah. *remembers getting captured by the Empire* Good stuff, good stuff.

If I ever get decent speakers and a joystick to this comp, I'll have to play ya sometime. I was fairly decent in an XvT TF/XW 1v1.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-08-14 01:29am

I'm a terror in an Awing. Still love the Xwing the best though, but can obtain space superiority in an Awing with ease.

Never played on line though, don't know why, just haven't.

Graeme Dice · Post by **Graeme Dice** » 2003-08-14 01:37am

RogueIce wrote:So, post-Endor anyone...with a REAL flight sim, and not Rogue Squadron, which in my experience is a Star Wars version of Star Fox?

I really wish people would learn their gaming history. Rogue Squadron is a classic rail shooter, and it predates star fox by a good number of years.

DeadM · Post by **DeadM** » 2003-08-14 02:17am

Ahh.... X-Wing: Alliance, I have nothing but fond memories of that one.

If only the old Sidewinders had worked with XP..... Goddamn Microsoft

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2003-08-14 02:46am

Graeme Dice wrote:
RogueIce wrote:So, post-Endor anyone...with a REAL flight sim, and not Rogue Squadron, which in my experience is a Star Wars version of Star Fox?
I really wish people would learn their gaming history. Rogue Squadron is a classic rail shooter, and it predates star fox by a good number of years.

Don't get Rogue Squadron and Rebel Assault confused.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-08-14 03:05am

Knife wrote:
RogueIce wrote:
Ah... Excellent game! I just started replaying it meself.

How big are these mods? Can you fit one on a floppy? It's be easier than burning it to a damn CD. I don't have XWA on my Net computer, and even if I did, no joystick and shitty speakers = no fun. So anything I got would have to be transferred.

And where're these SD ops at? And what do they involve? Details, man, details!
http://www.xwaupgrade.cjb.net/

They released the Stardestroyers about a month ago. The Impstar I and II. Both are, imo, real good opts. Not quite as detailed as somethings you can get from lightwave and such, but nice in the game.

Over the years, I have downloaded just about every patch and mod from this site. The weapons patch is a good one too.

Yeh, I have been replaying it recently also. I so love this game. If only Lucas arts could find it in their heart to bring out another game from this franchise.

Wow, they finally finished that thing?! I remember reading for years about it being worked on. Looks excellent, though, well worth the wait. I wonder when they'll get that SSD they promised out, the one with super structure big enough to fly around in like the A-Wing.

RedWizard · Post by **RedWizard** » 2003-08-14 03:28am

You can get the SSD here.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2003-08-14 03:51am

RogueIce wrote: el *snip*

I don't know where you get your delusions laser brain. Rogue Squadron so outshines Star Fucked it's not even funny. How can you compare Rogue Squadron's free flight to Star Fox's, hit a button and do a loop, and the other gives you a barrel roll? Really. Come one, where did you come up with that? To me Rogue Squadron is more the esence of Star Wars than the X-Wing/TIE Fighter series will ever be. It's fast paced, action pact, and expansively imaginative IMHO.

BTW, the Dark Guard used to run XvT/XWA but lack of interest and a waning number of players forced us to drop it. Sorry. XWA may have had the better multiplayer, but people just weren't sticking around.

Thunderfire · Post by **Thunderfire** » 2003-08-14 04:45am

My Squadron still plays XWA/XvT every week. We mostly
play coop missions or melees.

Thunderfire · Post by **Thunderfire** » 2003-08-14 04:49am

Knife wrote:I'm a terror in an Awing. Still love the Xwing the best though, but can obtain space superiority in an Awing with ease.

Never played on line though, don't know why, just haven't.

Your love of the X-Wing would have been changed pretty fast. X-Wings
are the poor mans Gunboat in the game.

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2003-08-14 08:07am

RogueIce wrote:How big are these mods? Can you fit one on a floppy? It's be easier than burning it to a damn CD.

Thirty bucks later, I have a 256 meg USB flash drive. You should get one...they will make your life a lot easier. Better than a CD, better than floppies, and smaller and tougher to boot.

Ypoknons · Post by **Ypoknons** » 2003-08-14 08:44am

Glad to know you guys still play!

Get the new Star Destroyer at the XWAU!

Mind you, my old Sidewinder Forcefeedback is what I use to play XWA these days.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2003-08-14 12:09pm

Knife wrote:I'm a terror in an Awing. Still love the Xwing the best though, but can obtain space superiority in an Awing with ease.Never played on line though, don't know why, just haven't.

I like the TIE Fighter more. It's more stable for me and the lasers don't miss often unlike the centering of the X-Wing's and A-Wing's laser canons which I find are crap.
I'll probably install it one day again but I don't like the joystick I have now as it it a little loose and hard to keep it center and still.

Cyaround,
Jason

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-08-14 12:27pm

RedWizard wrote:You can get the SSD here.

The Galactica!!!!

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-08-14 02:48pm

RedWizard wrote:You can get the SSD [snipity snip snip snip]

Yeah, got that one too. Tis a blast trying to lose motherfuckers in and around the superstructure. It also has like seven 'shield generators' domes. While I don't like the shield generator=dome thing, it is still fun.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-08-14 02:58pm

Cal Wright wrote:I don't know where you get your delusions laser brain. Rogue Squadron so outshines Star Fucked it's not even funny. How can you compare Rogue Squadron's free flight to Star Fox's, hit a button and do a loop, and the other gives you a barrel roll? Really. Come one, where did you come up with that? To me Rogue Squadron is more the esence of Star Wars than the X-Wing/TIE Fighter series will ever be. It's fast paced, action pact, and expansively imaginative IMHO.

BTW, the Dark Guard used to run XvT/XWA but lack of interest and a waning number of players forced us to drop it. Sorry. XWA may have had the better multiplayer, but people just weren't sticking around.

*shoots Cal* I played RS. In terms of the general idea behind it, it IS a Star Fox clone. It may be better at it than Star Fox, but it still took the same basic idea as that game. Which I dislike compared to a free-flight sim. That's the point I was trying to make, not in comparing Star Fox to Rogue Squadron.

And as to whoever said RS came out before Star Fox, you should be shot. Star Fox was out on the SNES long before RS was a gleam in the developer's eye. It may not have had all the options and moves of RS, but it was still out first.

As to who pointed out Rebel Assault, I don't remember that much of it, but I don't think the piloting was anywhere near the same (could you actually move the ship at all [albeit in a limited passageway of space], or only aim the cannons?).

McNum · Post by **McNum** » 2003-08-16 02:10pm

RogueIce wrote: As to who pointed out Rebel Assault, I don't remember that much of it, but I don't think the piloting was anywhere near the same (could you actually move the ship at all [albeit in a limited passageway of space], or only aim the cannons?).

It was just a rail shooter. There was the third person "avoid the obstacles" levels and the 1st person "shoot it all" levels. In the 3rd person levels you often followed a trench, canyon, or cave while the 1st person often had a lot of TIEs and could sometimes be inside structures or asteroid fields where you had to do limited dodges to avoid taking damage. Good fun, back then. But the gameplay hadn't really improved since the first Star Wars arcade game.