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What do you guys usually use for your pages. The ones I know about are Abobe Pagemill/pagemaker, microsoft frontpage, a really little one called 1-2-3 publish. And do the books that teach you about them teach you thoroughly, show you what every option under every menu does and how to use them. And is uploading to your page just typing in the URL, and it puts it there?

The latest I've used for web designing was Dreamweaver MX


For uploading to my webspace I use SmartFTP, which is free btw.



EDIT: Uploading a site is harder than you think at first. You first have to get ther webspace, whether free or paid. Then you use a FTP program, like SmartFTP, to upload.

There's tutorials and FAQs around the net that could explain all this better than I can and I'm only a mediocre web designer anyway.

Dreamweaver MX here, if I'm not doing raw coding myself.

~ver

Dreamweaver MX (can't wait for Dreamweaver MX 2004), and sometimes Windows Notepad.

Shrykull wrote:What do you guys usually use for your pages. The ones I know about are Abobe Pagemill/pagemaker, microsoft frontpage, a really little one called 1-2-3 publish. And do the books that teach you about them teach you thoroughly, show you what every option under every menu does and how to use them. And is uploading to your page just typing in the URL, and it puts it there?

notepad.exe and dos ftp, can't beat it!

I am considering writting a html editor. Any useful ideas you have for me ?

evilcat4000 wrote:I am considering writting a html editor. Any useful ideas you have for me ?

Are you going for a full WYSIWIG editor or a pure editor like HomeSite?

Dreamweaver MX is good, though Adobe is updating GoLive. My webhost only accepts SSH connections, tho, so no using the command-line FTP client

Shrykull wrote:What do you guys usually use for your pages. The ones I know about are Abobe Pagemill/pagemaker, microsoft frontpage, a really little one called 1-2-3 publish. And do the books that teach you about them teach you thoroughly, show you what every option under every menu does and how to use them. And is uploading to your page just typing in the URL, and it puts it there?

You use Microsoft Frontpage? You deserve nothing less than to be chained to a wall and beaten raw with a leather belt, sir. Microsoft Frontpage is the enemy of society and if there were justice in the world, it's creators would be in a military prison in Cuba.



Anyway, I, um, use Notepad when making a website or if I'm being truly lazy or doing something really important, various Macromedia products like Dreamweaver and Flash MX.

phongn wrote:

evilcat4000 wrote:I am considering writting a html editor. Any useful ideas you have for me ?

Are you going for a full WYSIWIG editor or a pure editor like HomeSite?

I am going for a WYSIWIG editor. It will be built using the MFC library and will use a Doc / View architechture that will allow you to import a wide variety of file formats into the applications. I have already developed a HTML browser which I could e-mail to anyone who wants it.

I use SciTE, which is a text editor for both windows and linux/unix that has syntax highlighting and folding. Though for WYSIWIG I have Quanta Plus (KDE program, Linux/UNIX only). Haven't made pages in a while.

Dreamweaver MX is definitely the way to go. If you have a high-res (like 1280 x 960) use the "new layout", otherwise (like using 800x600) go for the "old layout" otherwise the pages won't fit

and yes, it's a good idea to set yourself a resolution-max for pages, even better if they scale accordingly but always make sure they look good at 800x600 (which most people use).

Adobe GoLive appears pretty decent. I used it years ago before it was "round-trip" (meaning that it doesn't FUCK with your FUCKING format everytime you open and save) and it was very comfortable. Now, since Dreamweaver they wanted to be RT too, and I suppose they're ok.

Gil Hamilton wrote:

Shrykull wrote:What do you guys usually use for your pages. The ones I know about are Abobe Pagemill/pagemaker, microsoft frontpage, a really little one called 1-2-3 publish. And do the books that teach you about them teach you thoroughly, show you what every option under every menu does and how to use them. And is uploading to your page just typing in the URL, and it puts it there?

You use Microsoft Frontpage? You deserve nothing less than to be chained to a wall and beaten raw with a leather belt, sir. Microsoft Frontpage is the enemy of society and if there were justice in the world, it's creators would be in a military prison in Cuba.

I'll take anything right now, just to learn, I guess it gives me some of the basics, what's so bad about it anyway, just that it's another microsoft attempt to monopolize?

Shrykull wrote:I'll take anything right now, just to learn, I guess it gives me some of the basics, what's so bad about it anyway, just that it's another microsoft attempt to monopolize?

From what I understand, a number of its features only work properly when being viewed with IE. In other words, you can't do anything fancy if you want other browsers to be able to view the page. (I use Notepad or other text editors and don't do anything fancy, so I don't know how extensive the IE-only features are.)

1-2-3 Publish? For fuck's sake, that's AOL's webpage making software!

Crayz9000 wrote:1-2-3 Publish? For fuck's sake, that's AOL's webpage making software!

ROFL, I thought you could use it anywhere, not that just AOL had it.

You can use it anywhere... if you're an AOLuser.

Shrykull wrote:What do you guys usually use for your pages. The ones I know about are Abobe Pagemill/pagemaker, microsoft frontpage, a really little one called 1-2-3 publish. And do the books that teach you about them teach you thoroughly, show you what every option under every menu does and how to use them. And is uploading to your page just typing in the URL, and it puts it there?

I do the coding myself on Wordpad. If you're looking for a good beginner book, go grab one of the "Web Pages for Dummies" books. Great step-by-step instructions there. Also, check out this site:

http://www.elated.com/

Not only does it have a ton of tutorials, but it has free webpage templates you can use right away.

When I make websites I directly write the HTML/PHP in Notepad or SimpleText. None of this pussy Dreamweaver crap or anything like that. If it have an interface that has lots of seemless but seperate images, I use Image Ready to pull them apart and organize a table, but thats about it.

Most people don't have time to code by hand.

If you can't code by hand, Dreamweaver is probably your best bet. Of all the WYSIWYG editors, it produces the most standards-compliant code.