Quick DSL Question

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-09-16 05:49pm

Is it even remotely possible that a Verizon DSL account could be in use by two computers, at the same time?

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2003-09-16 06:40pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Is it even remotely possible that a Verizon DSL account could be in use by two computers, at the same time?

Yes. Usually by having multiple IP's as a part of the account. This is usually standard for broadband connections, I think you can get 3-4 included in your standard price.

Networking them is either handled by the ISP (probably for a service fee) or left to you.

TheFeniX · Post by **TheFeniX** » 2003-09-16 06:40pm

Of course, buy a router.

Do you have a program installed that "dials-up" to your DSL ISP? If so, the router does that for you and all you do is open IE (or whatever). If you don't have to use a dial program then you were probably already given a router, and don't have to buy anything. Post or PM me specifics.

Office depot has a D-Link router that cost about $30 after rebate.

Daltonator · Post by **Daltonator** » 2003-09-16 07:06pm

If you get a router, avoid Belkin.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-09-16 07:44pm

Linksys is pretty bad as well, though not quite as bad as Belkin.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-09-16 07:57pm

What's so bad about Linksys and Belkin? I've had a Linksys for a while (it was on sale, what can I say) and it's never caused any problems whatsoever. In fact, it's been more reliable than the piece-of-shit D-Link switch that I'm using in the study.

Daltonator · Post by **Daltonator** » 2003-09-16 08:04pm

The Belkin 4-port DSL/Cable router I got real cheap was more trouble than it was worth, but it seems to have settled down now that I use the DMZ option in the router settings rather than (gasp!) daring to open a few ports to try to get things like ICQ file transfer working through the NAT (which was probably the cause of the constant router lockups).

DarthBlight · Post by **DarthBlight** » 2003-09-16 08:21pm

Hey! I got a D-Link router and haven't had any problems with it.

Mad · Post by **Mad** » 2003-09-16 09:08pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Is it even remotely possible that a Verizon DSL account could be in use by two computers, at the same time?

Given that I'm using Verizon DSL and using a Linksys router and have 4 computers connected, I'd say yes.

Just pick up a Cable/DSL router and you'll be set. There's a couple other ways, but a router is the most reliable and easiest to set up.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-09-16 09:11pm

Well, the two computers in question are a desktop...and a laptop with wireless internet. Does that change anything?

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-09-16 09:39pm

You can usually get a NAT router with integrated wireless.

As for Linksys, well, their products tend to slowly die at my house and occasionally they need rebooting. They don't seem to handle our load that well.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-09-16 10:25pm

phongn wrote:You can usually get a NAT router with integrated wireless.

As for Linksys, well, their products tend to slowly die at my house and occasionally they need rebooting. They don't seem to handle our load that well.

My Linksys router handled 1 GB/day transfers and tens of millions of hits per month for several months straight while the board was at my house, and it never hiccuped. It daresay it's taken orders of magnitude more load than any other router personally owned by anyone here.

TheFeniX · Post by **TheFeniX** » 2003-09-16 10:47pm

Daltonator wrote:The Belkin 4-port DSL/Cable router I got real cheap was more trouble than it was worth, but it seems to have settled down now that I use the DMZ option in the router settings rather than (gasp!) daring to open a few ports to try to get things like ICQ file transfer working through the NAT (which was probably the cause of the constant router lockups).

Upgrade the firmware. It's what I had to do on my Speedstrem (shudder) when XBL came out.

That brings up good memories of the flamewar I got into with the MS-fanboys (and I do mean fanboys, don't say anything bad about MS unless you are ready for flame overload) at X-box addicts.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-09-16 11:21pm

I use a SMC Barricade for my router. Overall, Im pretty happy with it. The power plug can fall out to easily. That is annoying. But it comes with a built in Printer Server which is one of my favorite features.

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-09-16 11:47pm

TheFeniX wrote:That brings up good memories of the flamewar I got into with the MS-fanboys (and I do mean fanboys, don't say anything bad about MS unless you are ready for flame overload) at X-box addicts.

There are no firmware upgrades for my model at the moment.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-09-16 11:54pm

Darth Wong wrote:My Linksys router handled 1 GB/day transfers and tens of millions of hits per month for several months straight while the board was at my house, and it never hiccuped. It daresay it's taken orders of magnitude more load than any other router personally owned by anyone here.

Odd, our Linksys box must have not liked us

Actually, now that I think about it, it's not really a performance issue that I didn't like - rather, it's that we've had reliability issues with them. I also had bad experiences with their 802.11b WLAN cards (PCMCIA and PCI).

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-09-17 12:07am

If there's a spare 486 or better lying around, plus a couple of Ethernet cards, you can make your own router using Freesco.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-09-17 12:38am

My server has two network cards in it. I used to use it as a router (with GShield as a firewall) before I got the Linksys. It's an easy job for a computer to handle; there was no appreciable difference in the performance of the machine even when handling a very large amount of data on the Internet connection (the board was running on it a few times during that period).

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-09-17 12:47am

My Linksys router has never given me an iota of trouble.

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2003-09-17 01:03am

RedImperator wrote:My Linksys router has never given me an iota of trouble.

We have a netgear wireless router connected to a cable modem with USB connectors that connect the PC's to it wirelessly. How do you configure a wireless router? My IP starts with 192, and I've been told it's private, I can't send files in Mirc and people can't connect to me to play games of mtg with magic workstation.

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2003-09-17 01:05am

My Linksys router handled 1 GB/day transfers and tens of millions of hits per month for several months straight while the board was at my house

Where is it now?

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2003-09-17 03:37am

What is this linksys and dlink you guys are talking about?

Get yourselfs a real router.

Picked up a cisco 3600 when we decomissioned one office, it's kickas!

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-09-17 09:55am

Shrykull wrote:
RedImperator wrote:My Linksys router has never given me an iota of trouble.
We have a netgear wireless router connected to a cable modem with USB connectors that connect the PC's to it wirelessly. How do you configure a wireless router? My IP starts with 192, and I've been told it's private, I can't send files in Mirc and people can't connect to me to play games of mtg with magic workstation.

Read the manual. Netgear used to have a configuration system you telnet'ed into, but they may have added a web interface. I have no clue.

You have to forward ports to your specific computer or put yourself on the DMZ if various things don't work. Also, sometimes a firmware update will solve NAT issues.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-09-17 09:56am

Faram wrote:Picked up a cisco 3600 when we decomissioned one office, it's kickas!

Not everyone can get a free Cisco router or afford even their low-end stuff. They make excellent stuff, though - I have a Cisco Aironet 350 WLAN card, which beats the crap out of any other 802.11b product, and my uni exclusively uses the Aironet 350 access points. Power-over-Ethernet rocks, too.

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