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The Ultimate PC!

Posted: 2003-09-24 08:09am
by Ace Pace
check this PC out http://www.go-l.com/desktops/machl38/features/index.htm

well priced for all its features, unless you go for the mega options, I totaled round 26GRAND$ overkill :twisted:

what do you think?

Posted: 2003-09-24 08:43am
by Embracer Of Darkness
OMG that is sweet. :shock:

Re: The Ultimate PC!

Posted: 2003-09-24 08:57am
by MKSheppard
Ace Pace wrote: what do you think?
I like this feature a LOT....
It is the first Super-BIOS™ (IBPT) and PuRam™ Technology featured personal computer configurable WITHOUT a System Hard Drive with all operating system and program files permanently sitting a on a Flash RamDisk
No more fucking up your operating system, just have the core body
"copy protected" on the flash ROM and instant upgrades...good to see
I wasn't the only one having this same idea :twisted:

Posted: 2003-09-24 09:32am
by phongn
Other than being a blatant hoax?

Posted: 2003-09-24 09:55am
by MKSheppard
phongn wrote:Other than being a blatant hoax?
Eh?

Posted: 2003-09-24 10:05am
by phongn
MKSheppard wrote:
phongn wrote:Other than being a blatant hoax?
Eh?
I seriously doubt this thing is for real. The solid-state drive alone would probably cost more than the entire machine.

Posted: 2003-09-24 10:12am
by Embracer Of Darkness
phongn wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:
phongn wrote:Other than being a blatant hoax?
Eh?
I seriously doubt this thing is for real. The solid-state drive alone would probably cost more than the entire machine.
Why don't you buy me one, just to test this theory. :lol:

Posted: 2003-09-24 10:13am
by MKSheppard
phongn wrote: I seriously doubt this thing is for real. The solid-state drive alone would probably cost more than the entire machine.
Hey, I saw ads in 1996 or so for computers with support for 1GB of RAM,
and the "flash rom drive" option costs $3,000+

Posted: 2003-09-24 05:40pm
by Enigma
26Grand?

From what I see it goes for $7800US.

Posted: 2003-09-24 07:35pm
by The Kernel
phongn wrote:Other than being a blatant hoax?
Solid state drives have come down a lot lately, and I have no trouble believing that they can build a PC like this. Besides, you wouldn't need a very big solid state drive: 2-4 GB would be perfect for the Windows XP installation, drivers and a few choice workstation apps.

I admit that if I was going to get a dedicated box for 3ds or Photoshop, this thing would start to look mighty tempting. It isn't cheap, but I've ran a Windows XP system with a RAMDRIVE before and it was FAST.

Posted: 2003-09-24 07:39pm
by Nathan F
Honestly, why pay 5000 dollars for something like that when it will literally be near-obsolete and costing about 1000 by this time next year?

Posted: 2003-09-25 02:32am
by Shogoki
Because you may need/want it now, the same could be said about next year, and the year after that, that's how technology goes.

Posted: 2003-09-25 03:03am
by Faram
$7000 Peanuts!

Designed my own system at that page OMFG it is sweet!

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MACH L 3.8 EXTREME	3.8E
		$7,799.99	$7,799.99
  	  	Logo: Rock	  		
  	  	CacheFlow: Built-in	  		
  	  	SuperBIOS: Built-in	  		
  	  	CPU: 3.8GHz Extreme Edition	  		
  	  	L2 Cache: 512K	  		
  	  	Memory: 16GB 533MHz	  	$8,109.00	$8,109.00
  	  	PuRam: Built-in	  	$4,999.00	$4,999.00
  	  	3.8 Storage: 2T	  	$2,457.00	$2,457.00
  	  	RAID: 10	  		
  	  	SCSI: N/A	  		
  	  	Fiber Channel: N/A	  		
  	  	Graphics: Matrox Parhelia w/ 256MB + Booster	  	$214.00	$214.00
  	  	High Definition: Built-in	  		
  	  	Bay 1: Double Slot LCD - Blue	  	$160.00	$160.00
  	  	Bay 2: Single Slot LCD - Blue	  	$90.00	$90.00
  	  	Bay 3: Double Slot LCD - Blue	  	$160.00	$160.00
  	  	Audio: Built-in	  		
  	  	IEEE 1394a Firewire: 2 Ports	  		
  	  	IEEE 1394b Firewire: 3 Ports	  		
  	  	USB 2.0: 8 Ports	  		
  	  	PCI Expansion: N/A	  		
  	  	GigaLAN: Built-in	  		
  	  	Power Supply: 650W	  		
  	  	Input Device: N/A	  		
  	  	Monitor: Cinerama 57"	  	$3,199.00	$3,199.00
  	  	Operating System: Window XP Pro	  		
  	  	Warranty: 3 year Extended Enterprise	  		
  	  	T-shirt: x Large	  		
  	  	Total: 	$27,187.99

Posted: 2003-09-25 04:25am
by GrandMasterTerwynn
Faram wrote:$7000 Peanuts!

Designed my own system at that page OMFG it is sweet!

Code: Select all

MACH L 3.8 EXTREME	3.8E
		$7,799.99	$7,799.99
  	  	Logo: Rock	  		
  	  	CacheFlow: Built-in	  		
  	  	SuperBIOS: Built-in	  		
  	  	CPU: 3.8GHz Extreme Edition	  		
  	  	L2 Cache: 512K	  		
  	  	Memory: 16GB 533MHz	  	$8,109.00	$8,109.00
  	  	PuRam: Built-in	  	$4,999.00	$4,999.00
  	  	3.8 Storage: 2T	  	$2,457.00	$2,457.00
  	  	RAID: 10	  		
  	  	SCSI: N/A	  		
  	  	Fiber Channel: N/A	  		
  	  	Graphics: Matrox Parhelia w/ 256MB + Booster	  	$214.00	$214.00
  	  	High Definition: Built-in	  		
  	  	Bay 1: Double Slot LCD - Blue	  	$160.00	$160.00
  	  	Bay 2: Single Slot LCD - Blue	  	$90.00	$90.00
  	  	Bay 3: Double Slot LCD - Blue	  	$160.00	$160.00
  	  	Audio: Built-in	  		
  	  	IEEE 1394a Firewire: 2 Ports	  		
  	  	IEEE 1394b Firewire: 3 Ports	  		
  	  	USB 2.0: 8 Ports	  		
  	  	PCI Expansion: N/A	  		
  	  	GigaLAN: Built-in	  		
  	  	Power Supply: 650W	  		
  	  	Input Device: N/A	  		
  	  	Monitor: Cinerama 57"	  	$3,199.00	$3,199.00
  	  	Operating System: Window XP Pro	  		
  	  	Warranty: 3 year Extended Enterprise	  		
  	  	T-shirt: x Large	  		
  	  	Total: 	$27,187.99
What the fuck does someone need fiber channel I/O on a PC for?

Posted: 2003-09-25 05:07am
by Xon
GrandMasterTerwynn wrote: What the fuck does someone need fiber channel I/O on a PC for?
The next generation of 1000mbps lan networks use fiber optics as cables.

Posted: 2003-09-25 09:55am
by phongn
Fibre Channel doesn't use FO, it uses copper. It is primarily used for SANs. I couldn't possibly see how any desktop would have any need for FC unless you have truly astounding storage needs.

The case, BTW, is a photoshop'ed Vapochill model.

Posted: 2003-09-25 10:11am
by Ypoknons
It does seem that massive LCD is taking up the 3 5.25" drive bays in the Vapochill. Perspective looks a bit wierd too. That's all I can say.

Posted: 2003-09-25 10:43am
by Hotfoot
Note how none of the links lead to the sites mentioned.

That immediately tips off the bullshit-meter. The fact that the articles are locally hosted screenshots and NOT links to the articles themselves reeks of bullshit on a massive scale.

Check the sites listed, and I bet you not one of them has the article that this site claims they have.

Posted: 2003-09-25 12:30pm
by phongn
MacMinute, Monster-Hardware, the Inquirer, OCTools & Gizmodo are confirmed to have links to this, but at least some of those sites merely mirrored information from Gizmodo.

That super-sized monitor is theoretically possible, though you'd need four outputs to drive it - and it doesn't appear to use DVI.

Posted: 2003-09-25 01:59pm
by Ace Pace
Nathan F wrote:Honestly, why pay 5000 dollars for something like that when it will literally be near-obsolete and costing about 1000 by this time next year?
unless its a hoax, which I dont belive it is, it has upgrade room for a P5, and upgrade discounts, and the most of the tech, exept for the GPU and the CPU, will hold for a couple of years.

Posted: 2003-09-25 02:08pm
by phongn
Ace Pace wrote:unless its a hoax, which I dont belive it is, it has upgrade room for a P5, and upgrade discounts, and the most of the tech, exept for the GPU and the CPU, will hold for a couple of years.
Prescott is a Pentium 4 and won't be out until around December or so.

Posted: 2003-09-26 12:04am
by lukexcom
Even IF this was true..

Integrating all of that exotic hardware, developing drivers and a coherent, integrated, universal I/O system for it, getting it all bug-free, and making sure it doesn't crap out on you when you want to run a Virtual Dos Machine shell on Windows XP would make any developer want to rip their eyeballs out and eat them in terror at the prospect of all of the hard work ahead of them.

EDIT: Notice how they conveniently forgot to mention what kind of motherboard all of that crap sits on. "3.8GHz* Accelerated Hyper-Threading Extreme Edition 2MB L3 Cache Intel® P4" my ass... :roll:

Posted: 2003-09-26 12:28pm
by phongn
Actually, the P4EE exists, but won't be out for awhile. With Vapochill cooling one might get a P4EE up to those speeds.

Posted: 2003-09-26 01:11pm
by greenmm
Better question, too, is: why the hell would you even need that kind of computer?

I've just barely seen brand-new games coming that require 1 GHz CPU's as their minimum requirements. We're at a point where game requirements are far behind the mass-produced and commercially available systems. So why you would need such an ultra-high-end (it's not cutting-edge, it's walking-on-a-monomolecular-edge tech) system that costs as much as a new car, and whose capabilities probably won't even be able to be taken advantage of for 2-5 years?

Posted: 2003-09-26 01:19pm
by Companion Cube
If this was real, I would literally be drowning in my own saliva.