I finally switched; Mozilla kicks ass!

Psycho Smiley · Post by **Psycho Smiley** » 2003-10-06 11:04pm

Well, after being sick and tired of IE's bullshit, and an ill-conceived attempt at using the windows port of Lynx, I finaly switched to Mozilla. And you guys were right: it makes IE look even shittier than it managed to on its own.

Yes, I know, you guys tell everyone to switch often enough (thanks Ein!) but one just doesn't realize how shitty IE is until they actually take the plunge.

Like I said, thanks for the advice everyone, indirect or not.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-10-06 11:35pm

I was using Mozilla for a while, but I kept lossing my bookmarks and that pissed me off enough to use Exsplorer again.

aronkerkhof · Post by **aronkerkhof** » 2003-10-07 12:26am

Are you using Mozilla proper, or Firebird? I'm using Firebird 0.6.1 myself, and have been for about four months. I'm never going back.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-10-07 12:28am

I tried to use Mozilla, but I didn't like it one bit. Opera for me.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-10-07 12:28am

I'm on Opera, sometimes using IE for certain sites.

I think I've tried Mozilla once. Was okay.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-10-07 01:20am

As long as you're not using IE, you're doing good. Fucking IE ain't damned W3C compliant. No CSS2.. pisses me off.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-10-07 10:35pm

kojikun wrote:As long as you're not using IE, you're doing good. Fucking IE ain't damned W3C compliant. No CSS2.. pisses me off.

Incorrect. It does of CSS2, but only bits and pieces.

As for bookmarks, just copy your [insert profile directory here]/bookmarks.html file to a safe place, and put it back if bookmarks get nuked.

Psycho Smiley · Post by **Psycho Smiley** » 2003-10-08 07:09am

Well, I never trusted IE with my bookmarks, so I've always just had a table of links as my homepage, so I'm not worried.

MarkIX · Post by **MarkIX** » 2003-10-08 07:43am

I use mozilla because some of the site I use didn't work with IE but some of the site don't render properly in Mozilla so I keep IE handy. Itried using Netscape which you would think is just like mozilla but it is considerably worse in function and they don't even know how to access their website for plugins when Mozilla does, go figure.

Embracer Of Darkness · Post by **Embracer Of Darkness** » 2003-10-08 08:42am

I tried Mozilla and switched back because it reminded me too much of Netscrape Navicrater.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-10-08 06:49pm

Try this http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/

It's a mozilla(gecko) based browser without the netscapish shit.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-10-08 07:03pm

Embracer Of Darkness wrote:I tried Mozilla and switched back because it reminded me too much of Netscrape Navicrater.

That's because Mozilla is the successor to Netscape Navigator and forms the basis for Netscape 6 & 7. What's wrong with the NS interface style, anyways?

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2003-10-09 12:04am

phongn wrote:
Embracer Of Darkness wrote:I tried Mozilla and switched back because it reminded me too much of Netscrape Navicrater.
That's because Mozilla is the successor to Netscape Navigator and forms the basis for Netscape 6 & 7. What's wrong with the NS interface style, anyways?

Not to mention that the entire interface is skinnable so if you don't like the way it looks, make your own skin.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2003-10-09 01:35am

Just switched over to Mozilla Firebird and after a week of use, I am already very impressed. This is a slick, stable and FAST browser that is as simple as it gets. Oh, and I haven't had a single pop-up since I switched

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-10-09 07:18am

I run with IE6 and I got it locked down, though I keep Mozilla and Opera around for testing purposes.

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2003-10-09 08:24am

Psycho Smiley wrote:Well, I never trusted IE with my bookmarks, so I've always just had a table of links as my homepage, so I'm not worried.

IE uses the file system to manage the bookmarks. Each bookmark is a shortcut pointing to the site.

So if your bookmarks get trashed you normally have more problems than just IE acting up (ie hhd problems, viruses, etc)

Post by **haas mark** » 2003-10-09 08:26am

Same here with the Opera.. I find the Netscape look very displeasing aesthetically, as well as layout-wise. [shrugs] I prefer the nice customizable Opera.. except for certain sites (re: LiveJournal journal customization; Opera doesn't like it much).

~ver

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-10-09 03:10pm

Firebird is somewhat customizable with the button positions, and what buttons are on the toolbar.

aronkerkhof · Post by **aronkerkhof** » 2003-10-09 03:42pm

Firebird is at least as customizable as Opera, and as a bonus its free as in beer, speech, and anything else you'd like to add, and *always* will be. You can't say the same about Opera, which could discontinue "free" banner support tomorrow. I've got my Firebird configured to look about identical to IE, which took about 45 seconds of moving buttons around. That's using the default skin. Hundreds of others are available.

Post by **haas mark** » 2003-10-09 03:45pm

Well, the other thing I like about it is that it's only got one toolbar thingy, and I can have multiple windows open that I can go through by clicking little file tabs up at the top.

~ver

Mitth`raw`nuruodo · Post by **Mitth`raw`nuruodo** » 2003-10-09 04:10pm

I love the tab feature, it's a lot more convient than switching between whole windows (I'm just lazy like that).

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-10-09 05:04pm

verilon wrote:Well, the other thing I like about it is that it's only got one toolbar thingy, and I can have multiple windows open that I can go through by clicking little file tabs up at the top.

Firebird and Mozilla have had tabbed browsing for some time.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-10-09 07:05pm

aronkerkhof- It would look even more like IE if you installed the IE theme... then again, IE(XP) is ugly.

I have the tabbed browsing extension installed, and there are many other extensions to improve the feature set.

Post by **haas mark** » 2003-10-09 09:49pm

phongn wrote:
verilon wrote:Well, the other thing I like about it is that it's only got one toolbar thingy, and I can have multiple windows open that I can go through by clicking little file tabs up at the top.
Firebird and Mozilla have had tabbed browsing for some time.

Really? Hmm.. Oh, well. Matter of preference then. I still don't like Mozilla.

Course, Opera still has its disadvantages, but I like the skins for it, too, hehe.

That, and I never really noticed the part on Opera telling how many images are left to download by itself on Mozilla.. and I rather like the download window on Opera, as well.

~ver

aronkerkhof · Post by **aronkerkhof** » 2003-10-09 09:50pm

Pu-239 wrote:aronkerkhof- It would look even more like IE if you installed the IE theme... then again, IE(XP) is ugly.

I have the tabbed browsing extension installed, and there are many other extensions to improve the feature set.

Yeah, but I wanted it to look enough like IE so my wife wouldn't notice, and so far, mission accomplished.

See, I tried to switch us to Mozilla about two years ago, and it was a disaster, so I'm sneaking it in this time.

As far as tabbed browsing, the build I got came with it by default. I wouldn't have thought such a minor change would influence my browsing habits, but man has it ever.