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video card problem
Posted: 2003-10-23 12:38am
by Yuri Prime
I ended up getting a Radeon 9600 SE today... When I turn the system on, the monitor says that it's not getting a signal. At first I thought the card was dead, so I exchanged it for a different one and got the same result. I tried updating the AGP chipset drivers as the manual said to do and I'm still not getting anything. Does anyone know what is going on here?
Posted: 2003-10-23 04:59am
by namdoolb
hmmm.....
What was your previous setup? before you got the 9600.
Posted: 2003-10-23 05:11am
by Shinova
Check your BIOS. The settings I mean.
Posted: 2003-10-23 05:27am
by Yuri Prime
I'm currently running an original Radeon 64mb DDR VIVO that thinks it's a Radeon 7200 because of ATI's drivers lately.
Which BIOS settings? My BIOS settings for my AGP slot are as follows:
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AGP Mode 4x
AGP Comp. Driving Auto
Manual AGP Comp. Driving CB
AGP Aperture Size 64 MB
Posted: 2003-10-23 10:00am
by phongn
That's strange. Can you even get into the BIOS? Is the card firmly seated in the AGP slot? If there is a power connecter, is it plugged in?
Posted: 2003-10-23 10:08am
by Yuri Prime
phongn wrote:That's strange. Can you even get into the BIOS? Is the card firmly seated in the AGP slot? If there is a power connecter, is it plugged in?
There is no doubt that it is hooked up correctly. The monitor isn't getting a signal. I gather from all the troubleshooting I've done that the newer Radeons have had some major problems with VIA chipsets on AGP slots, but I couldn't fiind any instances of it not working at all... Probably about time to go exchange it for a GeForce 4 if tech support doesn't have anything...
Posted: 2003-10-23 10:59am
by phongn
VIA's AGP implementation sucks, but you still shouldn't have this problem. Your PSU is sending enough power to the motherboard too, right? The R9600 is a bit power-hungry.
Posted: 2003-10-23 11:11am
by Yuri Prime
phongn wrote:VIA's AGP implementation sucks, but you still shouldn't have this problem. Your PSU is sending enough power to the motherboard too, right? The R9600 is a bit power-hungry.
I have 420 W power supply, so it shouldn't be a problem. Tech support told me to update BIOS, so it's time to start hunting for the right upgrade...
Posted: 2003-10-23 11:14am
by Crayz9000
Do Windows' default drivers work with it?
I remember back in the days of ATI's 3D Rage Pro cards (the 8MB ones), their drivers didn't work period. The only drivers that worked were the default Windows drivers.
Posted: 2003-10-23 12:34pm
by Yuri Prime
I'm just going to swap it for a GeForce 4. I got sent to the hightest level of ATI tech support and didn't get anywhere.
Posted: 2003-10-23 02:38pm
by Vertigo1
Did you try the card in another system? (don't stick the card in an AGP 1.0 slot, or you'll fry the card) What specific mobo do you have?
Posted: 2003-10-23 08:05pm
by Yuri Prime
Vertigo1 wrote:Did you try the card in another system? (don't stick the card in an AGP 1.0 slot, or you'll fry the card) What specific mobo do you have?
P4VXASD2 - made by ECS...
Posted: 2003-10-24 12:28am
by Vertigo1
It seems this is a common problem with AGP cards in general....
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/5202/
Posted: 2003-10-24 12:31am
by Yuri Prime
I just went with the Radeon 9000, which works. I guess the 4x/8x AGP cards don't work in the 4x/2x slots.
Posted: 2003-10-24 11:26am
by phongn
ECS makes shit products. My dad's old computer had BIOS-level bugs that were never fixed and the once released a product that had fake cache.
Posted: 2003-10-25 12:23am
by Vertigo1
Yuri Prime wrote:I just went with the Radeon 9000, which works. I guess the 4x/8x AGP cards don't work in the 4x/2x slots.
Umm....
Just so you know:
AGP 1.0 = 1x/2x
AGP 2.0 = 1x/2x/4x
AGP 3.0 = 1x/2x/4x/8x
AGP 3.0 cards are fully compatible in AGP 2.0 slots because they use the same voltage. (1.5V) However, you cannot stick an AGP 3 or 2 card into a 1.0 slot because it uses more than double the voltage, which will toast your card. Thats if you're lucky to get it to fit because of the different keyways.....
Posted: 2003-10-25 07:54am
by Yuri Prime
Vertigo1 wrote:Yuri Prime wrote:I just went with the Radeon 9000, which works. I guess the 4x/8x AGP cards don't work in the 4x/2x slots.
Umm....
Just so you know:
AGP 1.0 = 1x/2x
AGP 2.0 = 1x/2x/4x
AGP 3.0 = 1x/2x/4x/8x
AGP 3.0 cards are fully compatible in AGP 2.0 slots because they use the same voltage. (1.5V) However, you cannot stick an AGP 3 or 2 card into a 1.0 slot because it uses more than double the voltage, which will toast your card. Thats if you're lucky to get it to fit because of the different keyways.....
In that case I have an AGP 2.0, so that isn't the problem. I don't know what it was...
Posted: 2003-10-25 11:37am
by Rye
Just thought i'd add: i have the ati radeon 9700, and i had this problem loads earlier. I found a way around it by turning the computer on, then the monitor (no signal) then resetting the computer. Then the signal would be found and it would start up.
Anyway, since then i've upgraded my motherboard and now it works first time. I was seriously worried that my monitor had died.