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Monitor Refresh Rate

Posted: 2003-10-26 09:40am
by Embracer Of Darkness
I saw some references to refresh rate in the thread about cheap monitors and I had to ask this...

What's so important about refresh rate? And why do people seem to like it higher?

I have my refresh rate set to 60hertz, anything above 75 makes my eyes feel funny, and if it push it to 85 it looks a tiny bit blurry. There's nothing wrong with my eyes, but I just don't see how people can tolerate anything too high.

Posted: 2003-10-26 09:46am
by Vendetta
Anything less than 85Hz gives me a headache.

My monitor runs at 100Hz.

Posted: 2003-10-26 10:23am
by Embracer Of Darkness
Vendetta wrote:Anything less than 85Hz gives me a headache.

My monitor runs at 100Hz.
:shock: I don't get this at all. Do people just have different tolerances, or what?

Posted: 2003-10-26 11:08am
by Alyeska
Anything below 70 makes me feel like throwing up. I like to keep my monitor as high as I can get it. Right now I am running 85.

Posted: 2003-10-26 11:12am
by TrailerParkJawa
Embracer Of Darkness wrote:
Vendetta wrote:Anything less than 85Hz gives me a headache.

My monitor runs at 100Hz.
:shock: I don't get this at all. Do people just have different tolerances, or what?
Yes, I think we all have tolerances. I cant stand dim or fuzzy monitors at all. But I hate running at high resolutions cause everythign is too small. As for refresh rate, I almost never notice any differance at all when I change it.

Posted: 2003-10-26 11:18am
by HemlockGrey
How does one change the refresh rate?

Posted: 2003-10-26 11:21am
by Faram
HemlockGrey wrote:How does one change the refresh rate?
R-Click on the desktop / Properties / Settings / Advanced / Monitor / Screen Refresh Rate.

Posted: 2003-10-26 01:03pm
by HemlockGrey
Odd. I don't seem to have a 'screen refresh rate' option.

Posted: 2003-10-26 01:14pm
by Faram
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Re: Monitor Refresh Rate

Posted: 2003-10-26 01:22pm
by phongn
Embracer Of Darkness wrote:I saw some references to refresh rate in the thread about cheap monitors and I had to ask this...

What's so important about refresh rate? And why do people seem to like it higher?
Low refresh rates give some people headaches. Unless I have a very high quality monitor and video card, I can barely stand 60Hz.
I have my refresh rate set to 60hertz, anything above 75 makes my eyes feel funny, and if it push it to 85 it looks a tiny bit blurry. There's nothing wrong with my eyes, but I just don't see how people can tolerate anything too high.
That's because (1) you have a low-quality monitor and (2) your video card's RAMDACs aren't very good.

Re: Monitor Refresh Rate

Posted: 2003-10-26 01:47pm
by GrandMasterTerwynn
Embracer Of Darkness wrote:I saw some references to refresh rate in the thread about cheap monitors and I had to ask this...

What's so important about refresh rate? And why do people seem to like it higher?

I have my refresh rate set to 60hertz, anything above 75 makes my eyes feel funny, and if it push it to 85 it looks a tiny bit blurry. There's nothing wrong with my eyes, but I just don't see how people can tolerate anything too high.
On lower refresh rates, it is possible to peripherally sense the flickering of the monitor as it redraws the display. The higher the refresh rate, the less likely it is that one would be able to notice this occasionally distracting flicker.

Posted: 2003-10-26 01:52pm
by HemlockGrey
No, I utterly lack any such options. Of course, my computer and monitor are both five years old, so that might go a long way towards explaining such a lack.

Posted: 2003-10-26 02:42pm
by Vendetta
If you're in Windows 9x/ME, the option is under the Adapter page on Advanced display options.


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Posted: 2003-10-26 04:36pm
by RedImperator
Mine is at 60 and I've never noticed any problems. I have a laptop though, so things might be different for me.

Posted: 2003-10-26 04:41pm
by phongn
RedImperator wrote:Mine is at 60 and I've never noticed any problems. I have a laptop though, so things might be different for me.
You're using an LCD, not a CRT. Only the best LCDs (read: not on laptops) can hit 60Hz refresh rates; setting your laptop to refresh at 60Hz won't really make a difference.

Posted: 2003-10-26 05:24pm
by Pu-239
Hehe, 60 on a CRT here at maxed resolution. Hehe. Are there any problems other than headaches- non of which I've had, just some sleepyness?


Oh, and I sit in front of the computer nonstop for hours at a time. Of course, I know this is bad.

Posted: 2003-10-26 05:44pm
by Dalton
I'm running 60Hz. I just tried switching to 72Hz and my brain objected after about three seconds.

Re: Monitor Refresh Rate

Posted: 2003-10-26 06:07pm
by Embracer Of Darkness
phongn wrote:
Embracer Of Darkness wrote:I saw some references to refresh rate in the thread about cheap monitors and I had to ask this...

What's so important about refresh rate? And why do people seem to like it higher?
Low refresh rates give some people headaches. Unless I have a very high quality monitor and video card, I can barely stand 60Hz.
I have some random LiteOn monitor and a Geforce4MX graphics card. I've had this monitor for years and it's always been on 60hertz. I have suffered from migraines in the past, but they were stress related. I don't get them anymore.
phongn wrote:
I have my refresh rate set to 60hertz, anything above 75 makes my eyes feel funny, and if it push it to 85 it looks a tiny bit blurry. There's nothing wrong with my eyes, but I just don't see how people can tolerate anything too high.
That's because (1) you have a low-quality monitor and (2) your video card's RAMDACs aren't very good.
I don't know the exact spec of my monitor, but the image is nice and sharp.

Posted: 2003-10-26 06:07pm
by Embracer Of Darkness
Dalton wrote:I'm running 60Hz. I just tried switching to 72Hz and my brain objected after about three seconds.
That's what happens to me. :?

Re: Monitor Refresh Rate

Posted: 2003-10-26 06:08pm
by Embracer Of Darkness
GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:
Embracer Of Darkness wrote:I saw some references to refresh rate in the thread about cheap monitors and I had to ask this...

What's so important about refresh rate? And why do people seem to like it higher?

I have my refresh rate set to 60hertz, anything above 75 makes my eyes feel funny, and if it push it to 85 it looks a tiny bit blurry. There's nothing wrong with my eyes, but I just don't see how people can tolerate anything too high.
On lower refresh rates, it is possible to peripherally sense the flickering of the monitor as it redraws the display. The higher the refresh rate, the less likely it is that one would be able to notice this occasionally distracting flicker.
I don't see any flickering. :? This is a real puzzle to me.

I think it must vary from person to person.

Posted: 2003-10-26 06:11pm
by Shinova
The monitor I'm using right now is one of those low-emissions ones so you touch it, it doesn't feel all crackly and all against your fingertips. So it's really easy on the eyes. That out of the way, 85Hz compared to 60Hz SEEMS clearer. Can't really tell. It might just be my imagination.

Re: Monitor Refresh Rate

Posted: 2003-10-26 07:01pm
by phongn
Embracer Of Darkness wrote:I have some random LiteOn monitor and a Geforce4MX graphics card. I've had this monitor for years and it's always been on 60hertz. I have suffered from migraines in the past, but they were stress related. I don't get them anymore.
What resolution are you running at, and how large is your monitor? The GF4MX usually has acceptable RAMDACs, so that's not a big issue here.

I run at 1600x1200 and I can't stand 60Hz. The flickering gives me a headache. OTOH, if I ran at 800x600 or so I doubt that I'd notice it.
I don't know the exact spec of my monitor, but the image is nice and sharp.
Most monitors can produce a sharp image at 60Hz. The challange is getting them to produce a sharp image at high refresh rates. I know some people who find anything less than 100 Hz unacceptable.

Posted: 2003-10-26 07:02pm
by phongn
Shinova wrote:The monitor I'm using right now is one of those low-emissions ones so you touch it, it doesn't feel all crackly and all against your fingertips.
Low-emission monitors have nothing to do with that.
So it's really easy on the eyes. That out of the way, 85Hz compared to 60Hz SEEMS clearer. Can't really tell. It might just be my imagination.
It varies from person-to-person; some can notice the flicker at 60Hz, others can't.

Posted: 2003-10-26 07:34pm
by aerius
Anything below 75Hz produces visible flicker and gives me a fucking migraine after a few minutes. My main computer monitor runs at 85Hz and the other one at 75, but that's because it has an 8 year old video card in it, can you say "ATI Mach 64"?

Posted: 2003-10-26 08:14pm
by phongn
aerius wrote:Anything below 75Hz produces visible flicker and gives me a fucking migraine after a few minutes. My main computer monitor runs at 85Hz and the other one at 75, but that's because it has an 8 year old video card in it, can you say "ATI Mach 64"?
I remember having a Mach64GX. :D