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How do I get outta dependancy hell?
Posted: 2004-04-04 10:49pm
by darthdavid
I've got Suse 9.0 on this box. Every time i try and use YOU it breaks something (kernel update=dead ethernet adapter, Nvidia Drivers for graphics card=Kernel Panic etc). I tried debian but found it's rumored hardness to be quite well founded in fact, and quite frankly, bash scares the shit outta me. I haven't used a command line seriously in years. So, how do i keep suse up to dade w/o breaking shit?
Posted: 2004-04-05 02:30am
by Pu-239
Too bad... Debian's a good distro once configured properly, like mine (took months of customization, but only because I was insistent on having things my way like on LFS). Anyway, look up APT-RPM for Suse.
A better solution would be to get Fedora, which also has APT-RPM, but has official repositories unlike Suse.
Then again, there's always learning the command line.
Posted: 2004-04-05 02:59am
by Pu-239
http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/home.html
Also, you still have to use the command line to set it up. Therefore, either learn it and get Debian anyway, or use Fedora. There's also Lindows, which is Debian based but has a nicer install. I
might (wait for people to comment on ethics and legality) give you a .torrent file to download the developers edition from a coupon I got from reading OSNews (they were giving away copies of Lindows), since I have no use for it (since I'm using Debian), and I've already tried it on someone else's laptop (runs KDE slightly faster than Debian, probably due to compilation with optimizations, but bootup ridiculously long due to broken hardware detection for the laptop).
If you are using Lindows, open a console and type in "apt-get install synaptic" or "apt-get aptitude" (Synaptic is GUI, Aptitude is also GUI, but in console, and is faster). Then run synaptic or aptitude from the console to select new packages, update, etc. Ignore Click-n-Run unless you like paying money or want ease of use and integration).
Posted: 2004-04-05 09:55pm
by Pu-239
Um... are you even going to reply to your own thread?
Posted: 2004-04-06 12:05am
by darthdavid
Thanks a bunch. My friend has a copy of lindows that he said i could use so i think i'm all set.
. Thanks for the suggestions. Suse has been pissing me off since I started off so maybe lindows will work out better.
Posted: 2004-04-06 02:19am
by Pu-239
I can give you a copy of my APT config files if the Lindows ones don't hook up to standard debian repositories by default. Also when installing Lindows make a seperate use account instead of just root (then again, you've used Linux before, so you should know that).
Re: How do I get outta dependancy hell?
Posted: 2004-04-08 02:01am
by ukamikazu
darthdavid wrote:I've got Suse 9.0 on this box. Every time i try and use YOU it breaks something (kernel update=dead ethernet adapter, Nvidia Drivers for graphics card=Kernel Panic etc). I tried debian but found it's rumored hardness to be quite well founded in fact, and quite frankly, bash scares the shit outta me. I haven't used a command line seriously in years. So, how do i keep suse up to dade w/o breaking shit?
Don't give up on SuSE just yet! Please for the love of Mike use
fou4s. It is so much better and faster that YOU and doesn't do a lot of the other annoying crap that YaST does, like breaking dependancies, randomly changing settings or downloading a lot of other RPM's that aren't relevant, so it's safe for custom installations.
And even better, you can just make a cron job for it and update weekly (highly advisable to do every Friday at 09:00) and you'll never know, or when it is finished, just have it mail the results for your later review.
However, now that YaST has been OS'ed, I'm ever hopeful it will get rebuilt and made much better and smaller (read quicker).
Let me know how it goes.